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Unmanned Tejas cleared !! But what are its Utility?

All sub-systems need to be indigenized.
Why ?
Name few products from same industry that are not build by Russia or USA that are completely indigenous, specifically products that hit the self after 2000
 
Why ?
Name few products from same industry that are not build by Russia or USA that are completely indigenous, specifically products that hit the self after 2000

Could you name what subsystems is Russia importing for its SU-35 or US for its F-22?
 
Hmm, guess no body in the indian air farts wants to fly it...8-)
 
Re read what i said, just dont vomit out your diarrhoea.

I read it my dear lady and I noted that you were making exceptions (excuses) hence my question. I was responding to your question with a question to highlight how you made excuses.
 
I read it my dear lady and I noted that you were making exceptions (excuses) hence my question. I was responding to your question with a question to highlight how you made excuses.
Sorry cant help you with your comprehension issues....
 
Using new aircraft designed to be operated human pilot in the cockpit, as unnamed "drones" in the modern battlefield.

Indian LOGIC :D
 
Could you name what subsystems is Russia importing for its SU-35 or US for its F-22?

Russia imported the HUD's form the france(wide angled ones),it imports lot of machinery used for fabrication from the germans,right now the helicopter engines are made in ukraine and russia has not been able to fully develop them after their war.
 
Russia imported the HUD's form the france(wide angled ones),it imports lot of machinery used for fabrication from the germans,right now the helicopter engines are made in ukraine and russia has not been able to fully develop them after their war.

That's exactly is the problem of not having self sufficiency. Even India had been approaching Ukraine for spares & upgrades to Russia equipment with parts/subsystems manufactured by Ukraine only. If EU tightens the screws further Russia would have to go to China for machine tools.
 
That's exactly is the problem of not having self sufficiency. Even India had been approaching Ukraine for spares & upgrades to Russia equipment with parts/subsystems manufactured by Ukraine only. If EU tightens the screws further Russia would have to go to China for machine tools.

Indians are stupid in trying to produce 5 th generation fighters when they cannot make most of the important sensors themselves.The problem lies in

1)Too much reservation in drdo/hal etc
2)No money....which top scientist will work for peanuts these govt companies pay??
 
Indians are stupid in trying to produce 5 th generation fighters when they cannot make most of the important sensors themselves.The problem lies in

1)Too much reservation in drdo/hal etc
2)No money....which top scientist will work for peanuts these govt companies pay??

Agree. Solution would be for the government to fund R&D by private entities while retaining the IP with GoI.
 
Agree. Solution would be for the government to fund R&D by private entities while retaining the IP with GoI.

There is no money for this when u are paying for rafale and other exotic systems....u cannot have it both ways,i am sorry.
 
Hi
It just saddens me the most to see a decent thread going down the drain thanks to trolling. Yes indeed Tejas indeed can be converted into an un-manned aircraft much more easily than developing lets say a fully stealth UCAV. Reasons for that are simple-
1) It would require lesser amount of tweaking in flight control laws to convert tejas from manned aircraft to UAV. In the manned version, pilot decides what angle of attack he wants to trim his aircraft at and the flight control computer adjusts the levcons in real time to make that happen. In flight control parlance it is known as the inner most loop.

2) The major challenges are: the UCAV version will be restricted to certain roles only. For instance features like auto take off and landing can be easily encorporated into the UCAV version. One can use UCAV tejas for limited roles like-
(a) Attacking enemy aircrafts using BVR missiles
(b) Trajectory tracking and dropping bombs at designated way points.
(c) SAR and EW role.
Where it can not be used or very difficult to implement:
(a) Typical dogfight etc

Now the reason why I firmly believe it can be done in matter of 5 years is simply because-
The fundamental control laws are known to ADA and just by adding couple of layers/loops one can easily add functionalities like trajectory tracking/ way points etc. Tejas uses an MRAC control scheme with 4 redundant channels. In UCAV application, the degree of redundancy can be lowered to make space for fuel and ordnance etc. If things were upto me, I would implement an adaptive fuzzy sliding mode control or sliding mode control for inner most loop and look ahead based guidance scheme for outer loop. The control strategy should be such that it can switch between modes in flight- for instance-
(A) To tackle an enemy aircraft- UCAV would need something like LOS based PN guidance scheme, whereas
(B) In order to sneak past enemy radars and destroy particular locations, it would need look ahead guidance.
@Taygibay Also I hope you got my paper?
 
Numerous Unmanned Tejas controlled by another aircraft is a great direction. Unmanned is the future ...
 

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