Featured United States 2020 General Elections - November 3rd

[F-22Raptor]

I would say 75%+ votes being for one party is a bit too many but such speculations are useless anyway.

The number of mail in ballots still to be counted was 1.4 million. With Biden trailing 500-600k.

 

[Meengla]

I have asked my friends--is it 2000, or worse 1860. One is adamant that with early/absentee votes, this is going to be Biden victory. The other says that GA/NV are going to be the determinant. I guess he's given up on other contested States.
Both are great liberal friends. Have been for over a decade. They are wondering about my Trump choice but respectful.

 

[Aspen]

I have asked my friends--is it 2000, or worse 1860. One is adamant that with early/absentee votes, this is going to be Biden victory. The other says that GA/NV are going to be the determinant. I guess he's given up on other contested States.
Both are great liberal friends. Have been for over a decade. They are wondering about my Trump choice but respectful.

Trump cannot win without Pennsylvania.

If Trump loses Pennsylvania, its over tonight.

It's crazy though that Biden will win this election by just 1 or maybe 2 states. Did not think it would be this close.

The other immediate reaction I had was that even if Biden wins, Dems still underperformed hugely and dropped the ball big time by losing the Senate, so it will be exactly situation like Obama where:

Democratic President + Republican Senate = Gridlock (Nothing can get passed)

In practical terms, what this basically means is that the whole criticism about the 2015 Iran JCPOA deal not being binding because Senate never ratified it under Obama will happen under Biden also, because neither Obama or Biden could get enough Dem seats in the Senate, they need a majority in the Senate to ratify JCPOA under Congress and make it binding permanently. But now, since Dems lost Senate, Biden's only option is to do what Obama did and pass JCPOA by executive order which skips Congress, but that also means whoever comes after Biden can trash JCPOA again like Trump did after Obama.

If I was Iran, I would be *very* careful to sign any kind of deal even if Biden wins because it will be just like Obama's 2015 deal that is not binding, and thus it would be much easier for next Pres to kill a new executive order Iran deal vs if Biden passed new JCPOA with ratified Senate majority which would make it permanent and much harder to undo.

Good news for Iran is this:

Democrats could still win midterm Senate elections in 2022 while Biden still has 2 years left. So if Dems get Senate majority in 2022, then let's say Biden signs an Iran deal in 2023, he can send it to Congress and Democrat majority in Senate will ratify it and make it permanent, so a Senate ratified Iran deal signed into law would be very difficult to undo compared to the executive order Obama did.

 

[powastick]

ZeroHedge

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Trumping raging over twitter now on those postal votes. He is going to bring this to the supreme court.

 

[PakFactor]

ZeroHedge

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Trumping raging over twitter now on those postal votes. He is going to bring this to the supreme court.

He is an idiot, what possible case you have lol

 

[Meengla]

In practical terms, what this basically means is that the whole criticism about the 2015 Iran JCPOA deal not being binding because Senate never ratified it under Obama will happen under Biden also, because neither Obama or Biden could get enough Dem seats in the Senate, they need a majority in the Senate to ratify JCPOA under Congress and make it binding permanently. But now, since Dems lost Senate, Biden's only option is to do what Obama did and pass JCPOA by executive order which skips Congress, but that also means whoever comes after Biden can trash JCPOA again like Trump did after Obama.

If I was Iran, I would be *very* careful to sign any kind of deal even if Biden wins because it will be just like Obama's 2015 deal that is not binding, and thus it would be much easier for next Pres to kill a new executive order Iran deal vs if Biden passed new JCPOA with ratified Senate majority which would make it permanent and much harder to undo.

Good news for Iran is this:

Democrats could still win midterm Senate elections in 2022 while Biden still has 2 years left. So if Dems get Senate majority in 2022, then let's say Biden signs an Iran deal in 2023, he can send it to Congress and Democrat majority in Senate will ratify it and make it permanent, so a Senate ratified Iran deal signed into law would be very difficult to undo compared to the executive order Obama did.

Good to know about the Iran angle.
As I had said very early on in this thread... A Biden victory would suit Iran and China better.
As for Pakistan... not much is going to be different except perhaps the liberal Left led by the likes of Bernie Sanders would be more open to Pakistan's viewpoint on Kashmir; there IS still some heart and conscience left in the American political system despite all the strategic interests.

 

[ziaulislam]

Biden is running away with MI WI NV

Trump cannot win without Pennsylvania.

If Trump loses Pennsylvania, its over tonight.

It's crazy though that Biden will win this election by just 1 or maybe 2 states. Did not think it would be this close.

The other immediate reaction I had was that even if Biden wins, Dems still underperformed hugely and dropped the ball big time by losing the Senate, so it will be exactly situation like Obama where:

Democratic President + Republican Senate = Gridlock (Nothing can get passed)

In practical terms, what this basically means is that the whole criticism about the 2015 Iran JCPOA deal not being binding because Senate never ratified it under Obama will happen under Biden also, because neither Obama or Biden could get enough Dem seats in the Senate, they need a majority in the Senate to ratify JCPOA under Congress and make it binding permanently. But now, since Dems lost Senate, Biden's only option is to do what Obama did and pass JCPOA by executive order which skips Congress, but that also means whoever comes after Biden can trash JCPOA again like Trump did after Obama.

If I was Iran, I would be *very* careful to sign any kind of deal even if Biden wins because it will be just like Obama's 2015 deal that is not binding, and thus it would be much easier for next Pres to kill a new executive order Iran deal vs if Biden passed new JCPOA with ratified Senate majority which would make it permanent and much harder to undo.

Good news for Iran is this:

Democrats could still win midterm Senate elections in 2022 while Biden still has 2 years left. So if Dems get Senate majority in 2022, then let's say Biden signs an Iran deal in 2023, he can send it to Congress and Democrat majority in Senate will ratify it and make it permanent, so a Senate ratified Iran deal signed into law would be very difficult to undo compared to the executive order Obama did.

Pennsylvania is irrelevant if trump loses
NV MI AZ WI
And he is trailing by >0.5 in all these with widening gap as mail in trickles

 

[FuturePAF]

I have asked my friends--is it 2000, or worse 1860. One is adamant that with early/absentee votes, this is going to be Biden victory. The other says that GA/NV are going to be the determinant. I guess he's given up on other contested States.
Both are great liberal friends. Have been for over a decade. They are wondering about my Trump choice but respectful.

The nightmare scenario is the election of 1876. It was so bad the liberal was given the presidency and the conservatives in the south got to institute the Jim Crow laws and end “Reconstruction”, all to avert what was feared to be the start of a second civil war just days before the inauguration.

At this point if Joe holds Arizona and can win Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin, he won’t need Pennsylvania. He will get elected with the bare minimum 270

also, don’t worry about your vote for the GOP. 26% of non-whites voted for trump based on current numbers. This will make both parties have to put in the effort next time around to win our votes. They can’t take us for granted anymore

 

[Cherub786]

Biden is leading in Wisconsin and Michigan, I think it's safe to say he keeps them, along with Arizona and Nevada, therefore, next POTUS is Joe Biden.

 

[Falcon29]

CNN calls Wisconsin for Biden. Michigan almost done counting and likely to go to Biden too.

 

[Loki]

Any updates on NV AZ GA.
Why taking so long for GA to count more votes. GA and PA is like insurance for Biden. AZ still a big chunk of votes not counted yet not sure they are mail in or walk in on election day.
This thing is not over it just started and SCOTUS might decide fate of some races.

 

[VCheng]

Biden is leading in Wisconsin and Michigan, I think it's safe to say he keeps them, along with Arizona and Nevada, therefore, next POTUS is Joe Biden.

From Don Sleazy to Joe Sleepy. What a choice! Not.

 

[tower9]

The nightmare scenario is the election of 1876. It was so bad the liberal was given the presidency of the conservatives in the south got to institute the Jim Crow laws and end “Reconstruction”, all to avert what was feared to be the start of a second civil war just days before the inauguration.

At this point if Joe holds Arizona and can win Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin, he won’t need Pennsylvania. He will get elected with the bare minimum 270

also, don’t worry about your vote for the GOP. 26% of non-whites voted for trump based on current numbers. This will make both parties have to put in the effort next time around to win our votes. They can’t take us for granted anymore

The GOP needs to understand that the changing demographics of the country won't be stopped. They have to drop the White nationalist bullshit and truly accept non-Whites instead of just finding token non-Whites who are accepted as pets basically.

 

[That Guy]

With Biden leading in Wisconsin and Michigan, my projection is that Biden will be the next president of the United States of America.

 

[Philosopher]

My main focus is Nevada, it is very close there right now and if Trump manages to flip it then Biden will have to flip one of the other red states. Fingers crossed Los Vegas and other cities will pull through for Biden.