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Undisciplined Indian Artillery Unit

Someone needs to watch Full Metal Jacket.


In the wisest words of General Patton : “When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can’t run an Army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An Army without profanity couldn’t fight it’s way out of a piss-soaked paper bag.”

Bilkul theek keh rahai ho tum behanchod.
 
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Routine exercise somewhere in rajasthan. Language is usual among punjabis :p

What about our "Punjabi Army"? here everyone respects their subordinates and that leads to mutual respect in return. I hope someone posts the video from a few days back of our guys doing an artillery drill, the whole tone was just professional.

Someone needs to watch Full Metal Jacket.


In the wisest words of General Patton : “When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can’t run an Army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An Army without profanity couldn’t fight it’s way out of a piss-soaked paper bag.”

There is a clear difference, if your superior is swearing and abusing you in the midst of battle then the subordinate will lose respect. If this is just an accepted attitude in the Indian Army then the defections, social media videos, and killing of officers suddenly all makes sense.
 
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There is a clear difference, if your superior is swearing and abusing you in the midst of battle then the subordinate will lose respect. If this is just an accepted attitude in the Indian Army then the defections, social media videos, and killing of officers suddenly all makes sense.
First this video is not from battle, it is from a drill. And yes, drills get really really really colourful.
And lastly, if General Patton -- one of the greatest Generals world has ever seen -- thinks that cussing gets the work done in Army; I have no doubt that it works. Never been in battlefield but I can imagine it will not be exactly civilized.
 
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This is a drill . There are no Gandhian or priestly drill sergeants in the world .
 
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First this video is not from battle, it is from a drill. And yes, drills get really really really colourful.

Doesn't matter where they are, soldiers must remain professional when handling weapons. Banter is fine, but there is a time and place for it which is not the battlefield.

And lastly, if General Patton -- one of the greatest Generals world has ever seen -- thinks that cussing gets the work done in Army; I have no doubt that it works. Never been in battlefield but I can imagine it will not be exactly civilized.

General Patton didnt go around swearing at his subordinates nor does he ever recommend it, your quote is taken seriously out of context.

When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can't run an army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An army without profanity couldn't fight its way out of a piss-soaked paper bag. … As for the types of comments I make, sometimes I just, By God, get carried away with my own eloquence.

He would say something like hurry up and load the f*cking thing! or bring me the god-damn radio!

and definitely not yelling at his men and constantly calling them motherf*ckers and sisterf*ckers while they are doing their jobs.

There are several major reasons why, it severely undermines your authority, puts unnecessary pressure on the men, and adds confusion in communications.
 
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Someone needs to watch Full Metal Jacket.


In the wisest words of General Patton : “When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can’t run an Army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An Army without profanity couldn’t fight it’s way out of a piss-soaked paper bag.”
Yup as always straight out of Bollywood....and now you are comparing a Second World War military leader and hero with some profanity prone character in uniform.
 
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its normal in sikhs
they talk like this to eachother.
they use behan chod very frequently in conversations.
 
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Doesn't matter where they are, soldiers must remain professional when handling weapons. Banter is fine, but there is a time and place for it which is not the battlefield.



General Patton didnt go around swearing at his subordinates nor does he ever recommend it, your quote is taken seriously out of context.

When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can't run an army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An army without profanity couldn't fight its way out of a piss-soaked paper bag. … As for the types of comments I make, sometimes I just, By God, get carried away with my own eloquence.

He would say something like hurry up and load the f*cking thing! or bring me the god-damn radio!

and definitely not yelling at his men and constantly calling them motherf*ckers and sisterf*ckers while they are doing their jobs.

There are several major reasons why, it severely undermines your authority, puts unnecessary pressure on the men, and adds confusion in communications.

Enjoy!


This movie is based very closely on his actual conduct.

As I said, I have never been in real battle field but from what I have heard, cussing among peers is nothing unusual even personal insults. And my sources are members of British SAS, USMC and Indian Army of-course.
 
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Enjoy!


This movie is based very closely on his actual conduct.

As I said, I have never been in real battle field but from what I have heard, cussing among peers is nothing unusual even personal insults. And my sources are members of British SAS, USMC and Indian Army of-course.

First of all this is a fictional movie is based on a book written by his bitter rival, so it grossly misinterprets several things.

Secondly, even in your example this is not on the battlefield. Give me an example where he did this in the midst of battle, otherwise stay quiet.
 
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i wonder if there is any laws in Army for Verbal abuse of their juniors ? or unit members ? and what can be the consequences ?
 
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Yup as always straight out of Bollywood....and now you are comparing a Second World War military leader and hero with some profanity prone character in uniform.
Actually it is Hollywood movie and many folks who underwent USMC boot camp in 80s or before have said that the movie is pretty close to how it was in there.

BTW, my point was not to compare but to merely point out that those who are blushing on the cussing in drills do not know why and when the commanders and drill instructors cuss.

Secondly, even in your example this is not on the battlefield. Give me an example where he did this in the midst of battle, otherwise stay quiet.
The original video is that of a drill. Not actual battlefield.
 
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