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Understanding Imran ,THE REASONS BEHIND HIS support to TTp?

I'm not listening to any propaganda, and its not chit chat. you had mentioned earlier that you were in PAK ARMY so i asked which regiment you were in and when you were in the army.
please don't associate imran khan with ttp. he is a good man who wants nothing but good for our nation.

I think we can safely ignore batman now......he probably left the army after he was superseded as a captain or major and now pretends to be an expert on the army.....his knowledge of military and CI can safey be put as a junior officers view who has no understanding of operations of strategy.....

despite the many, many faults of IK's party, he the best of the lot....who does batman support? the fat toad in vialyet, nawaz or shahbaz [they put a useless good for nothing, hamza, in charge of pujab], the asif z party?????
 
I think we can safely ignore batman now......he probably left the army after he was superseded as a captain or major and now pretends to be an expert on the army.....his knowledge of military and CI can safey be put as a junior officers view who has no understanding of operations of strategy.....

despite the many, many faults of IK's party, he the best of the lot....who does batman support? the fat toad in vialyet, nawaz or shahbaz [they put a useless good for nothing, hamza, in charge of pujab], the asif z party?????
@batmannow so who do you support. what do you suggest?
 
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@batmannow so who do you support. what do you suggest?
i support only & only PAKARMY defenitly the best of the best!
compare its rule, with any of our so called damo-cratic rullers?

a revolutionised grand marshall rule, with rotaition of command, with only local bodies as the working jamhooriyat?
 
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I think we can safely ignore batman now......he probably left the army after he was superseded as a captain or major and now pretends to be an expert on the army.....his knowledge of military and CI can safey be put as a junior officers view who has no understanding of operations of strategy.....

despite the many, many faults of IK's party, he the best of the lot....who does batman support? the fat toad in vialyet, nawaz or shahbaz [they put a useless good for nothing, hamza, in charge of pujab], the asif z party?????

now, listen to me kakay,
every senior officer has to pass these ranks, which the most important of his years experincing the real line of action?
all what you are trying here, to catch up is just another, over educated crap?
which could be , melt away in few minutes of real time, close standing to a 105 mm big gun, firing its canons?
i was part of the frist, team which was sent, on the deadiest of missions , bck in 99?
guss thats enough, to tell the hell?
now how can a unexperince, unpolitical IK is better thn others?
lets rock & roll!
 
I'm not listening to any propaganda, and its not chit chat. you had mentioned earlier that you were in PAK ARMY so i asked which regiment you were in and when you were in the army.
please don't associate imran khan with ttp. he is a good man who wants nothing but good for our nation.

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imran khan with ttp. he is a good man who wants nothing but good for our nation? you mean opening offices of TTp even telling them the location is good for the nation, what next mullha sawati as our ammer ul momineen?
 
now, listen to me kakay,
every senior officer has to pass these ranks, which the most important of his years experincing the real line of action?
all what you are trying here, to catch up is just another, over educated crap?
which could be , melt away in few minutes of real time, close standing to a 105 mm big gun, firing its canons?
i was part of the frist, team which was sent, on the deadiest of missions , bck in 99?
guss thats enough, to tell the hell?
now how can a unexperince, unpolitical IK is better thn others?
lets rock & roll!

you are the kaka....I am older than you boy...

and your answer just proves my point in '99 if youwere first in, you were a major or so and definitely never made it to even colonel.....so no matter how good a subaltern you were, operatinol and strategic is no good....'99 was a big disaster and pervez destroyed pakistans position inkashmir with it.....

as for IK he si well read..and you dodged the question--who is the alteranative---the fat toad in vilayet? the ganja brabdaran or the asif &co....to repeat....what experienc edo these ahve except n loot and plunder they ahve enver done a honest days work in theri life.....never earend penny honestly......
 
you are the kaka....I am older than you boy...

and your answer just proves my point in '99 if youwere first in, you were a major or so and definitely never made it to even colonel.....so no matter how good a subaltern you were, operatinol and strategic is no good....'99 was a big disaster and pervez destroyed pakistans position inkashmir with it.....

as for IK he si well read..and you dodged the question--who is the alteranative---the fat toad in vilayet? the ganja brabdaran or the asif &co....to repeat....what experienc edo these ahve except n loot and plunder they ahve enver done a honest days work in theri life.....never earend penny honestly......
over educated, & retired pice of self strategist!
no one is the alternative to the patriotic, uncroupt, fighting terror rule of pakarmy?
well our enimies were the frist, who ran to clintons?
our enemies were the frist, to recognized our bravry, our planing, our sacrifices better thn you, self centered penssioned, old uncle?
the lover of this moraly , financialy croupt damocrzy?
i am all for that red orders to 111s here?
remember that, for any acting officer in pakarmy being a captain, or a major is the biggest of all test he have to give in the line of fire?
you know nothing about, militry & its not the topic?
so lets see what a coward, a terrorist sympathiser, a socialy & moral croupt fake politician is up to?
ohh giving offices to the most brutal of killers of pakistanis?
ohh thats how he is going to preach us islam?
or how many more blasts he wants to see killing the innocent pakistanis, before he realises that enough, its been proven, that he is not jew agent?
 
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imran khan with ttp. he is a good man who wants nothing but good for our nation? you mean opening offices of TTp even telling them the location is good for the nation, what next mullha sawati as our ammer ul momineen?

Dude its Ok for us that you are not supporting Ik stance and i agree he is not very smart though but a sincere man, what options we have, either go full out war or to negotiate. War option is already is open and i dont know why you dont understand. As far as IK political carrier is concerned I agree with saleem that i cant accept zardari, nawaz, Altaf, or any idiot who is in parliament and offcourse Dr Qadri is included in it.
 
over educated, & retired pice of self strategist!
no one is the alternative to the patriotic, uncroupt, fighting terror rule of pakarmy?
well our enimies were the frist, who ran to clintons?
our enemies were the frist, to recognized our bravry, our planing, our sacrifices better thn you, self centered penssioned, old uncle?
the lover of this moraly , financialy croupt damocrzy?
i am all for that red orders to 111s here?
remember that, for any acting officer in pakarmy being a captain, or a major is the biggest of all test he have to give in the line of fire?
you know nothing about, militry & its not the topic?
so lets see what a coward, a terrorist sympathiser, a socialy & moral croupt fake politician is up to?
ohh giving offices to the most brutal of killers of pakistanis?
ohh thats how he is going to preach us islam?
or how many more blasts he wants to see killing the innocent pakistanis, before he realises that enough, its been proven, that he is not jew agent?

can you exactly tell me what we are doing since 2004?
Are we not doing any operation in FATA now?
too much of inflexibility or rigidness makes me curious about the purpose and agenda of debate.
Our Army is all there. lets make them fight to each other. Why killing your own soldiers. Lets make a team of 500 gorilla soldiers and mixed with TTP and starts creating fight amongst them and i am sure they are doing it.
 
over educated, & retired pice of self strategist!
no one is the alternative to the patriotic, uncroupt, fighting terror rule of pakarmy?
well our enimies were the frist, who ran to clintons?
our enemies were the frist, to recognized our bravry, our planing, our sacrifices better thn you, self centered penssioned, old uncle?
the lover of this moraly , financialy croupt damocrzy?
i am all for that red orders to 111s here?
remember that, for any acting officer in pakarmy being a captain, or a major is the biggest of all test he have to give in the line of fire?
you know nothing about, militry & its not the topic?
so lets see what a coward, a terrorist sympathiser, a socialy & moral croupt fake politician is up to?
ohh giving offices to the most brutal of killers of pakistanis?
ohh thats how he is going to preach us islam?
or how many more blasts he wants to see killing the innocent pakistanis, before he realises that enough, its been proven, that he is not jew agent?

you dont seem to be able to read palin english....I DONT support IK --not with javed hashmi and gaddi nasheen who are his right and left hands.....BUT among the politicos he is the only honest one....

I dont support the criminals --but I do support the pakhtoon ppl who are good muslims and always supported the cause---

as for the sacrifice----the bravery and sacrifice was for naught--that is what makes me so angry---- you see to support the pervez guy--he is stupid enough to endorse te statement in his ghost written wutobiography in the,line of fire that he would never have made chief given his service [file] record......read aaabout the japanese in the imphal kohima campaign--kargil was exactly that---

the blasts are because pervez did not pursue the leads given by the investigations--he let all foreigneers free run of the country--he protected the corrupt from NAB----he engineered the NRO---in short he destroyed pakistan or at lest drove the last nails in the coffin

why do you keep bringing in islam ----jsut becuase the barbarians claim to be acting in its name? do you follow God ior some mullahs??/ keep in mind in sunni islam, after the Prophets sw death no one has divine sanction--till the return of the Isa es.....everyone answers for their own deeds--if some ppl want to follow mullahs or what ever and be inhuman thats their problem and they will get whats coming to them----

fyi IK says he believes in the constitution of pakistan which is totally different form whtat these bozos want--but I am no spokesman for him and as i said i dont support him----but what do you want? pervez back? another NRO?

anyway enough time wasted by me---
 
On one hand i am hating Imran khan to the max for not letting law enforcement take revenge for the bloodshed done by extremists however another part of me thinks dont get excited and take a step back may be this whole MAZAKRAT is distraction drama & their is some thing rather very serious which has alarmed Imran khan and may be may be thats why he is very reluctant to authorize action .. Many including hard core PTI members voters ,supporters and littraly the whole countrymen are wondering what is it (i think we all have some respect for the man ) but WTF !?? Muzakarat just doesnt make sense or logic at all !

some of my ( silly may be ) guesses of Imran Khans worries are :

Any operation in KPK will be a start of civil war God Forbid

will such action will give rise to pushtun nationalist and separatist movement

will this result in springing separatist insurgency all across Pakistan ie: Baluch / Pashtun /Sindhi / balti / hazzara / mohajir Nationalists etc etc
Still makes him a bad politician, considering the daily toll. Can't even see what is happening around and hasn't made his own efforts to contact Taliban.
 
you dont seem to be able to read palin english....I DONT support IK --not with javed hashmi and gaddi nasheen who are his right and left hands.....BUT among the politicos he is the only honest one....

I dont support the criminals --but I do support the pakhtoon ppl who are good muslims and always supported the cause---

as for the sacrifice----the bravery and sacrifice was for naught--that is what makes me so angry---- you see to support the pervez guy--he is stupid enough to endorse te statement in his ghost written wutobiography in the,line of fire that he would never have made chief given his service [file] record......read aaabout the japanese in the imphal kohima campaign--kargil was exactly that---

the blasts are because pervez did not pursue the leads given by the investigations--he let all foreigneers free run of the country--he protected the corrupt from NAB----he engineered the NRO---in short he destroyed pakistan or at lest drove the last nails in the coffin

why do you keep bringing in islam ----jsut becuase the barbarians claim to be acting in its name? do you follow God ior some mullahs??/ keep in mind in sunni islam, after the Prophets sw death no one has divine sanction--till the return of the Isa es.....everyone answers for their own deeds--if some ppl want to follow mullahs or what ever and be inhuman thats their problem and they will get whats coming to them----

fyi IK says he believes in the constitution of pakistan which is totally different form whtat these bozos want--but I am no spokesman for him and as i said i dont support him----but what do you want? pervez back? another NRO?

anyway enough time wasted by me---

which constitution? created by frist civillian marshallaw admistrator?
ok i got your dam point, you jst support IK, because he is pushtun? so its your rascism above everything?
NRO was there just because, whole army though, thats enough for them to understand the needs of pakistan, or they are going to behave patrioticly?
& just because PAKARMY is standing there with its blood line to save FATA falling into terrorists hands, you cant feel the difference?
ohh i undrrstand, you want that foolish pushtun toad mullha fazalullha back in sawat & in malakand?
just because he is pushtun too?
you still cant, think with your tiny, brians if its not PAKARMY in KPK or in FATA , thn it would be ANA or NATO doing that?
making a no flyzone over that pice of land?
but as a pushtun racsist, you want a freedom to terrorists, just because they are the same your godam race?
you racists ever thought, who was killing who, just past week? when your dam jew agent politician, was telling the media, he wants open offices for terrorists, just because he wanted to save his rule?
no dam raymond davis was found in musharaf,s rule? & no abottabad happened in his rule why?
instead there were denial perls got, nailed down ?
hey dear king of pukhtun racists , stop hatting other pakistanis & pakarmy cause you live in your dam defeated world, in which you got for yourself only a torabora cave to survive?
but remember, the PAKARMY will going to get you in your torabora caves, let it happens & then we see, what they needed to talk?
what great logic, by foolish IKto give freedom to terrorists, offices withdraw from the strategic positions, then talk?
if talks fails , then we fight?
so after that jew masters of IK can put a resolution in SECURITY COUNCIL OF UNO , that because of the capture of a pakistani province by the islamic fundamentlist, its highly possible that, its nucks get into the millitants hands, which can make world peace at stake?
after that, they will demand from NOORA govt , to give up its all nucks & let NATO clear the millitancy?
wow what you think , PAKARMY dont know the traitors sitting on govt benches & in the opposition?
shake up, its comming to get the traitors, its callec the grand marshall rule, more brutal & more patriotic then eygpt!
 
On one hand i am hating Imran khan to the max for not letting law enforcement take revenge for the bloodshed done by extremists however another part of me thinks dont get excited and take a step back may be this whole MAZAKRAT is distraction drama & their is some thing rather very serious which has alarmed Imran khan and may be may be thats why he is very reluctant to authorize action .. Many including hard core PTI members voters ,supporters and littraly the whole countrymen are wondering what is it (i think we all have some respect for the man ) but WTF !?? Muzakarat just doesnt make sense or logic at all !

some of my ( silly may be ) guesses of Imran Khans worries are :

Any operation in KPK will be a start of civil war God Forbid

will such action will give rise to pushtun nationalist and separatist movement

will this result in springing separatist insurgency all across Pakistan ie: Baluch / Pashtun /Sindhi / balti / hazzara / mohajir Nationalists etc etc
Still makes him a bad politician, considering the daily toll. Can't even see what is happening around and hasn't made his own efforts to contact Taliban.

To add to that, I think talks with TTP should be pursued with full speed if the decision is taken. In that process, letting them open an office is reasonable and actually lets us know what exactly is the organization TTP. For once, we will know with clarity what TTP is all about and weigh if it is worth negotiating with them. Besides, since the organization is a ragtag bunch of groups, fissures may emerge while they come up with common points of negotiation which can be exploited by the state later on. However there will inevitably be some tough choices to be taken in the beginning like releasing prisoners who are well know terrorists.

The real problem most liberals in Pakistan have is that the end goal of TTP and the Pakistani state are different. TTP wants democracy less Sharia(and other perks like no education for girls) where as the state of Pakistan(as per those liberals) cannot accept that. But technically these things can be negotiated in talks and if they break down over these issues then so be it.

But the liberals allege a lot of things on TTP sometimes unreasonably(the continuing violence being a reasonable objection, however it seems TTP leaders themselves do not have a fine control on their grass roots men). For example, they allege that the TTP broke the deal in Swat. Actually we do not know who broke it at the local level. Also some people are trying to incite the army by claiming many soldiers got killed by the TTP and that this a war. In a war, killing soldiers is not a humanitarian crime.

WRT Imran, one thing is for sure, drones are not the reason for the TTP behaviour. They are not a bunch of helpless people whose family got attacked by drones.
 
Still makes him a bad politician, considering the daily toll. Can't even see what is happening around and hasn't made his own efforts to contact Taliban.

To add to that, I think talks with TTP should be pursued with full speed if the decision is taken. In that process, letting them open an office is reasonable and actually lets us know what exactly is the organization TTP. For once, we will know with clarity what TTP is all about and weigh if it is worth negotiating with them. Besides, since the organization is a ragtag bunch of groups, fissures may emerge while they come up with common points of negotiation which can be exploited by the state later on. However there will inevitably be some tough choices to be taken in the beginning like releasing prisoners who are well know terrorists.

The real problem most liberals in Pakistan have is that the end goal of TTP and the Pakistani state are different. TTP wants democracy less Sharia(and other perks like no education for girls) where as the state of Pakistan(as per those liberals) cannot accept that. But technically these things can be negotiated in talks and if they break down over these issues then so be it.

But the liberals allege a lot of things on TTP sometimes unreasonably(the continuing violence being a reasonable objection, however it seems TTP leaders themselves do not have a fine control on their grass roots men). For example, they allege that the TTP broke the deal in Swat. Actually we do not know who broke it at the local level. Also some people are trying to incite the army by claiming many soldiers got killed by the TTP and that this a war. In a war, killing soldiers is not a humanitarian crime.

WRT Imran, one thing is for sure, drones are not the reason for the TTP behaviour. They are not a bunch of helpless people whose family got attacked by drones.

ruby, you are wellcome here for the disscussion?
guss wht, its free hand?
 

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