Undermine civilization:The Hindu's Inbred Conservatism

[Abu Zolfiqar]

shame on all South Asians for allowing the white man in in the first place

 

[harpoon]

as long as the dharmics are embroiled in caste system and internal divisions, i wouldnt be worried about their ''race'' (funny they call themselves a ''race'')

See the the Satyameva Jayathae episode on dalits in India..its clearly shown that caste system is freely practiced in Islam & Christianity in India. As for internal divisions, no internal division is so strong as the Shia-Sunni conflict.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

thats very debatable...caste related violence is far more prevalent in india than Shiia-Sunni in the whole world.

at least based on my observations...Islam doesnt have a caste system. No amount of indian links you bombard me with will change that. Though it is true Muslims in bharat are given caste labels...some self hating Muslims in that country even allow themselves to fall victim to that garbage

 

[Bhairava]

I would say "shame on all south asians for allowing any outsider "..

 

[harpoon]

thats very debatable...caste related violence is far more prevalent in india than Shiia-Sunni in the whole world.

at least based on my observations...Islam doesnt have a caste system. No amount of indian links you bombard me with will change that. Though it is true Muslims in bharat are given caste labels...some self hating Muslims in that country even allow themselves to fall victim to that garbage

Caste system exists among Muslims atleast among Indian Muslims. No amount of denying is to change that. If Pakistanis doesn't practice it..more power to them.

As for the bolded part, you must be joking. Just in June 2012, 10 Shitte pilgrims were gunned down by Sunni militants...not to mention the never ending Shia-Sunni killings in Iraq. Then there is Syria. Its an open secret that the Syrian Civil War is more of sectarian nature than political one.

 

[INDIC]

at least based on my observations...Islam doesnt have a caste system. No amount of indian links you bombard me with will change that. Though it is true Muslims in bharat are given caste labels...some self hating Muslims in that country even allow themselves to fall victim to that garbage

Caste system is very much alive in Muslim society otherwise how come people still identity themselves as Gujjar, Jatt, Choudhary and Rajput in Pakistan.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

i wont go into caste..but the ''highlighting oppression against dalits'' thread clearly shows the wanton violence against dalits and the posts are dated as you know

Caste system is very much alive in Muslim society otherwise how come people still identity themselves as Gujjar, Jatt, Choudhary and Rajput in Pakistan.

Chaudrys, Mians, Lones, Bhatts etc...all common family names

nothing to do with caste

 

[harpoon]

i wont go into caste..but the ''highlighting oppression against dalits'' thread clearly shows the wanton violence against dalits and the posts are dated as you know

And these Dalits exists in all religions in India.

 

[pk_baloch]

Chaudrys, Mians, Lones, Bhatts etc...all common family names
nothing to do with caste

and all these Chaudries ,Mians Lones ,Bhatts etc eat fish and beef ..and they also intermarry ...

 

[INDIC]

Chaudrys, Mians, Lones, Bhatts etc...all common family names

nothing to do with caste

Biradari still decide marriages among Muslims. One guy even told me the people belonging to some Sufi saint's family tree only prefer to marry in Sufi Saints family tree only.

 

[harpoon]

Biradari still decide marriages among Muslims. One guy even told me the people belonging to some Sufi saint's family tree only prefer to marry in Sufi Saints family tree only.

Its same as Caste System, isn't it. If you see the Satyameva Jayathe episode on dalits, the low cast Muslims complained that they can't even enter the house of upper caste Muslims.

 

[Bhairava]

Its same as Caste System, isn't it. If you see the Satyameva Jayathe episode on dalits, the low cast Muslims complained that they can't even enter the house of upper caste Muslims.

And bhangee muslims cant offer namaz in the same mosque as high caste muslims like ashrafs or even pathans..

 

[Pride]

What a crap is this? Religious discussions are not allowed. Even if it is allowed then there are Thousands of books which talks about negative aspect of any religion. If OP is right then I have to just take few points from "Satanic verses" and print here? Anyone agree??

 

[livingdead]

Ajtr, please post a few lines about your views on topic you posted

 

[xyxmt]

i don't practice whatever is written here.so i don't want to read the book now because it is written by a western fella.brahmins,maulvis,father they are all same and one should not simply listen to them.
many people in india don't have an idea about hinduism.it is clearly written in bhagvada gita that people should worship one supreme almighty and should not worship any god for there petty gains and greed.
all those who want a proof can read bhagvad gita as it is.this shrilok is from 1st chapter or pehla adhyay.
i know it's kinda offtopic but wanted to share this

western book on Islam is totally different, its very believable....us pe to qasam utha saktey ho