UN SG offers mediation to help resolve the Kashmir dispute

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UNITED NATIONS: With an impending visit to Pakistan on Tuesday, the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has offered his mediation to the nuclear tipped neighbours to resolve the longstanding Kashmir issue, as tensions along its disputed border have simmered in recent weeks. Expressing sorrow over the latest outbreak of violence in Jammu and Kashmir, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has underscored the need for Pakistan and India to resolve the “long-standing” issue.

“While I am saddened by the loss of lives in the course of all this conflict, I am relatively, reasonably encouraged by the recent move by both sides to engage in dialogue, to resolve their source of conflict through dialogue—that I will strongly welcome and support,” the secretary-general said in a joint interview with the UN-based local media correspondents before his departure for Islamabad as part of an official two-day visit, beginning on Tuesday.

“My offer of good office remains available. If both sides think this is useful and both sides agree, then I’ll be ready to offer my good offices,” Ban said in response to a question whether he could help leaders of India and Pakistan resolve the decades-old dispute, which is on the agenda of the UN Security Council.But experts point out that India has consistently rebuffed offers of mediation, whether by the United Nations or any other third party, arguing that solutions must arise bilaterally. US drone strikes Ban also urged the operating countries or any group operating armed drones to strictly adhere to the relevant provisions of international laws regulating unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

He was responding to a question about the deep concern and anger in Pakistan over the continuing US drone strikes in Pakistan that have killed and injured many civilians. “The UN really and strongly urges that all UAVs should be strictly regulated and controlled under international laws, including international humanitarian laws,” he added. Afghanistan Ban, a former South Korean foreign minister, said he looked forward to discussing with the newly-elected Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif a number of important issues, including Afghanistan from where the United States-led forces are set to withdraw in 2014, posing a challenge because of the resulting security vaccum.

“We really hope to have closer and stronger cooperation, and the role of Pakistan in promoting peace and stability in neighbouring country—Afghanistan,” he said. “There should be a strong regional cooperation. This is why I am visiting Pakistan. It is one of our priority agendas, which I will be discussing with Prime Minister Sharif and President Zardari.” He said he would also exchange ideas on how Pakistan could accelerate the achievement of the Millennium Development Goals—in education, poverty eradication and gender equality. Ban, 69, described as a “good message” the first-ever transfer of power in Pakistan from a civilian government to another democratically elected government.

 

[Parul]

UN is a dummy Organization which has no power to solve any critical issues. Ban Ki Moon is only holding a rubber stamp position. Only Western Power utilizes UN for their own interest.

 

[Parul]

UN SG offers mediation to help resolve the Kashmir dispute

UNITED NATIONS: With an impending visit to Pakistan on Tuesday, the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has offered his mediation to the nuclear tipped neighbours to resolve the longstanding Kashmir issue, as tensions along its disputed border have simmered in recent weeks.

Expressing sorrow over the latest outbreak of violence in Jammu and Kashmir, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has underscored the need for Pakistan and India to resolve the “long-standing” issue.

“While I am saddened by the loss of lives in the course of all this conflict, I am relatively, reasonably encouraged by the recent move by both sides to engage in dialogue, to resolve their source of conflict through dialogue—that I will strongly welcome and support,” the secretary-general said in a joint interview with the UN-based local media correspondents before his departure for Islamabad as part of an official two-day visit, beginning on Tuesday.

“My offer of good office remains available. If both sides think this is useful and both sides agree, then I’ll be ready to offer my good offices,” Ban said in response to a question whether he could help leaders of India and Pakistan resolve the decades-old dispute, which is on the agenda of the UN Security Council.

But experts point out that India has consistently rebuffed offers of mediation, whether by the United Nations or any other third party, arguing that solutions must arise bilaterally.

Not only has cross border incidents across the line of control heightened tensions, violence within the Indian administered Kashmir which resulted in the imposition of a curfew which was further extended for 24 hours on Monday, has prompted concerns.

US drone strikes

Ban also urged the operating countries or any group operating armed drones to strictly adhere to the relevant provisions of international laws regulating unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). He was responding to a question about the deep concern and anger in Pakistan over the continuing US drone strikes in Pakistan that have killed and injured many civilians.

“The UN really and strongly urges that all UAVs should be strictly regulated and controlled under international laws, including international humanitarian laws,” he added.

Afghanistan

Ban, a former South Korean foreign minister, said he looked forward to discussing with the newly-elected Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif a number of important issues, including Afghanistan from where the United States-led forces are set to withdraw in 2014, posing a challenge because of the resulting security vaccum.

“We really hope to have closer and stronger cooperation, and the role of Pakistan in promoting peace and stability in neighbouring country—Afghanistan,” he said. “There should be a strong regional cooperation. This is why I am visiting Pakistan. It is one of our priority agendas, which I will be discussing with Prime Minister Sharif and President Zardari.”

He said he would also exchange ideas on how Pakistan could accelerate the achievement of the Millennium Development Goals—in education, poverty eradication and gender equality.

Ban, 69, described as a “good message” the first-ever transfer of power in Pakistan from a civilian government to another democratically elected government.

UN SG offers mediation to help resolve the Kashmir dispute – The Express Tribune

 

[SQ8]

And this, is exactly what is in Pakistan's interest @hinduguy @Dillinger @Hyperion @Secur @araz @nuclearpak @Capt.Popeye

 

[Secur]

And this, is exactly what is in Pakistan's interest @hinduguy @Dillinger @Hyperion @Secur @araz @nuclearpak @Capt.Popeye

TBH , I would say that this current series of incidents along the LOC is a blessing in disguise for Pakistan - seconding your post last night , nothing can unite the country more than the Indian threat and nothing will worry the world more , than escalation between two nuclear powers and a remote possibility of war .

 

[majesticpankaj]

This is clear meddling in our internal affairs. Offer would be obviously rejected.

 

[Dillinger]

And this, is exactly what is in Pakistan's interest @hinduguy @Dillinger @Hyperion @Secur @araz @nuclearpak @Capt.Popeye

Sir, you are well aware of the ONLY solution that the GOI will willingly accept.

AND that is exactly the scheme the GOP cannot agree to.

So it would be an exercise in futility for the UN to try and mediate between the two nations.

TBH , I would say that this current series of incidents along the LOC is a blessing in disguise for Pakistan - seconding your post last night , nothing can unite the country more than the Indian threat and nothing will worry the world more , than escalation two nuclear powers and a remote possibility of war .

Yet it does nothing to budge the status quo. That is the very reason that the GOI plays down any LOC incident despite it being used to gain internal political cookies. We will not escalate the situation, any score that needs to be settled will be settled a good few weeks after the din settles down- just like last time.

 

[SQ8]

Sir, you are well aware of the ONLY solution that the GOI will willingly accept.

AND that is exactly the scheme the GOP cannot agree to.

So it would be an exercise in futility for the UN to try and mediate between the two nations.

That's what I am referring to. India does not want the attention of the world on Kashmir in a way that shows it as a disputed region and troubled state instead of it being shown as an example of Pakistani state terrorism. So the whole UN spotlight ends up as a diplomatic sting that needs efforts to be hushed up quickly as you said.

 

[Dillinger]

That's what I am referring to. India does not want the attention of the world on Kashmir in a way that shows it as a disputed region and troubled state instead of it being shown as an example of Pakistani state terrorism. So the whole UN spotlight ends up as a diplomatic sting that needs efforts to be hushed up quickly as you said.

AND we have been doing the very same for decades now, sort of our specialty, wouldn't you say so sir? An amateur like me has known this for quite some time, so obviously so do our authorities. After all why would a state claim that proxies caused casualties among the forces of another state knowing full well that either way a retaliation will be forth coming- just not immediately. The point is to create enough uproar, enough pressure so that the state enduring the attrition reacts in a retaliatory manner immediately and/or shortsightedly leading to a cycle of retaliatory strikes, a situation which will by its very nature obfuscate who started the cycle but insert enough tension into the situation for others to take notice.

We are well cognizant of such tactics and very well versed in rendering them unfruitful.

 

[Secur]

Yet it does nothing to budge the status quo. That is the very reason that the GOI plays down any LOC incident despite it being used to gain internal political cookies. We will not escalate the situation, any score that needs to be settled will be settled a good few weeks after the din settles down- just like last time.

At the moment , no . What this results in , remains to be seen . Please , keep in mind that currently Islamabad was doing nothing to highlight Kashmir in International arena , absolutely nothing at all and suddenly this happened . Now , the Secretary General is on his way to the subcontinent and the world's attention will get on the dispute without Pakistan doing nothing . You can say that Indian Govt tries to play down incidents on LOC , yet its domestic and internal politics doesn't permit it to do so . Too much hue and cry from the opposition and demands of ' retaliation ' by the Indian public . Not to mention that the Indian media leaves no stone unturned to sensationalize any news from there . Pakistan will escalate the situation , take my word on that , it is exactly in our favor . The latest news is that additional troops are being deployed by GHQ in the troubled sectors and ammunition reserves are being increased .

 

[SQ8]

AND we have been doing the very same for decades now, sort of our specialty, wouldn't you say so sir? An amateur like me has known this for quite some time, so obviously so do our authorities. After all why would a state claim that proxies caused casualties among the forces of another state knowing full well that either way a retaliation will be forth coming- just not immediately. The point is to create enough uproar, enough pressure so that the state enduring the attrition reacts in a retaliatory manner immediately and/or shortsightedly leading to a cycle of retaliatory strikes, a situation which will by its very nature obfuscate who started the cycle but insert enough tension into the situation for others to take notice.

We are well cognizant of such tactics and very well versed in rendering them unfruitful.

And on that note, we are more than likely to see nothing more than the usual hawks from both sides having at it for a while and then retreating to their former places.

On an off topic note.. I had a brilliant idea on invading India from Pakistan. ..long term though.

 

[Dillinger]

At the moment , no . What this results in , remains to be seen . Please , keep in mind that currently Islamabad was doing nothing to highlight Kashmir in International arena , absolutely nothing at all and suddenly this happened . Now , the Secretary General is on his way to the subcontinent and the world's attention will get on the dispute without Pakistan doing nothing . You can say that Indian Govt tries to play down incidents on LOC , yet its domestic and internal politics doesn't permit it to do so . Too much hue and cry from the opposition and demands of ' retaliation ' by the Indian public . Not to mention that the Indian media leaves no stone unturned to sensationalize any news from there . Pakistan will escalate the situation , take my word on that , it is exactly in our favor . The latest news is that additional troops are being deployed by GHQ in the troubled sectors and ammunition reserves are being increased .

I am well aware of that, you forget that Islamabad stopped its regular tactics for about 6 years or so. Before that we have dealt with this.

Other than that refer to my above post. Furthermore perhaps you have forgotten that Barak Obama himself had to back down from his pre-election claims and remove Kashmir from the Af - Pak brief under Richard Holbrooke. Even when a significantly large amount of our force was deployed on the IB and the LOC due to 26/11- at a quantum greater than even the 2001-2002 scenario. The US of A itself backed out from that one under direct pressure from the GOI even as their whole war effort up west depended on your supply lines. So think again my friend.

 

[ExtraOdinary]

At the moment , no . What this results in , remains to be seen . Please , keep in mind that currently Islamabad was doing nothing to highlight Kashmir in International arena , absolutely nothing at all and suddenly this happened . Now , the Secretary General is on his way to the subcontinent and the world's attention will get on the dispute without Pakistan doing nothing . You can say that Indian Govt tries to play down incidents on LOC , yet its domestic and internal politics doesn't permit it to do so . Too much hue and cry from the opposition and demands of ' retaliation ' by the Indian public . Not to mention that the Indian media leaves no stone unturned to sensationalize any news from there . Pakistan will escalate the situation , take my word on that , it is exactly in our favor . The latest news is that additional troops are being deployed by GHQ in the troubled sectors and ammunition reserves are being increased .

How exactly do you plan to change the status quo by "escalating" the situation. These tit for tat border killings have been going on for the last 20 years and will continue. Nothing has changed. And if you could'nt achieve "freedom" for Kashmir when India was almost bankrupt and at it's weakest in the early 90's, how do you plan to do it now?

 

[Dillinger]

And on that note, we are more than likely to see nothing more than the usual hawks from both sides having at it for a while and then retreating to their former places.

On an off topic note.. I had a brilliant idea on invading India from Pakistan. ..long term though.

Come now, spill the beans sir.

 

[SQ8]

Come now, spill the beans sir.

Ok, here goes.. It is a long term plan.. 5 years to the least.
Involves identifying pretty-beautiful(relative to the application) late teenage girls and boys.. making them fanatical for Pakistan.. but at the same time making them dedicated spouses but expert at mind controlling anyone. Then, we wait till Amitabh dies.. India is in mourning..these people should be in their early twenties.. at the peak.. send them across in thousands with flowers...and all.
They go in, they honeytrap key people.. they marry .. create links. Hopefully if all goes well, these controlling spouses would have entire state apparatuses compromised along with family links. Some finer tuning is required.. but I am confident of this idea