UN Human rights chief takes on China and other powers in her speech

[Shankranthi]

I think it translates from the simple statement: "We have all close friends in BIMSTEC". No border issues, no territorial attacks, no cases of terrorism, similar cultural orientation, developing countries with tremendous potential and of course, their individual access to the richer Far East and Southeast Asian markets allows for many arrangements which can benefit both sides.

We need to add Cambodia and Vietnam into the group, but I guess that will take time.

If this group can grow close and can work together seamlessly then it can exert some influence in the South East region and can help build a block to expansionist forces to the further east

 

[Beast]

I cannot claim to know the chinese people but I certainly understand the Chinese govt. and there is nothing righteous about them.

US is a society based on Law, so if the law recognizes kings and dictators as the legitimate ruler of the nation then US will deal with them.

I recognize US hypocrisy in using "morality" as a stick to beat its opponents while pretending to claim moral high ground. But such things are for the masses and in the long run, it just makes them a laughing stock.

If china takes that path too then it will be sad. But you know what they say. Imitation is the sincerest form of Flattery.

Please.. You are talking as there is no law in China. Can Chinese leader rob or rape others of money and still think he can get away? Having law while failing to exercise it is nothing short of failure.

As for US, the masses that easily believe US double standard and their contempt for China just show how shallow most American are. There is nothing great about America with most citizen in the same cahoot.

 

[rambro]

Why not talk about the war profiteers adventures in middle east and africa

Senseless destruction and murder or countless civilians all in the name of profit and geopolitics

 

[Shankranthi]

Please.. You are talking as there is no law in China. Can Chinese leader rob or rape others of money and still think he can get away? Having law while failing to exercise it is nothing short of failure.

As for US, the masses that easily believe US double standard and their contempt for China just show how shallow most American are. There is nothing great about America with most citizen in the same cahoot.

India has law but fails to exercise it quite regularly. Except when it comes to larger national matters.

China is the same. All old civilizations are governed more by social codes that brute law.

US is NOT. Its guided purely by Law because it has no older civilization or society. Its barely 200 years old.

US is certainly great because it's one of the few places on earth where one can get equal opportunity along with freedom.

For example, one has more freedom in India than in the US, but has a lot fewer opportunities. This lack of opportunities in turn reduces one freedom.

Not sure about china, though by all accounts there is enough freedom (not political) and opportunity, but I am not sure how deep that is or how wide spread that is.

 

[samv]

The role of the UN Human Rights Chief has always been a joke.

 

[Beast]

India has law but fails to exercise quit regularly. Except when it comes to larger national matters.

China is the same. All old civilizations are governed more by social codes that brute law.

US is NOT. Its guided purely by Law because it has no older civilization or society. Its barely 200 years old.

US is certainly great because it's one of the few places on earth where one can get equal opportunity along with freedom.

For example, one has more freedom in India than in the US, but has a lot fewer opportunities. This lack of opportunities in return reduces one freedom.

Not sure about china, though by all accounts there is enough freedom (not political) and opportunity, but I am not sure how deep that is or how wide spread that is.

Too much freedom results in abuse of laws and loopholes. It will causes instability for society. China is a very open society even for everybody to succeed no matter what walks of life. Jack Ma is a very fine example. He has no powerful uncles or government connection and yet he is one of the most successful billionaires.

Read up his biography and understand how China society opens opportunity for all people. That is why China economy is growing so fast. Sure there is income gap but when comes to society balance. China ecosystem is one of the best in the world. A good ecosystem that provide the ideal environment for all to grow. It will also needs a fair judical law system to support. Failure to do will never enable for such China economy miracle to happen.

 

[Shankranthi]

Too much freedom results in abuse of laws and loopholes. It will causes instability for society. China is a very open society even for everybody to succeed no matter what walks of life. Jack Ma is a very fine example. He has no powerful uncles or government connection and yet he is one of the most successful billionaires.

Read up his biography and understand how China society opens opportunity for all people. That is why China economy is growing so fast. Sure there is income gap but when comes to society balance. China ecosystem is one of the best in the world. A good ecosystem that provide the ideal environment for all to grow. It will also needs a fair judical law system to support. Failure to do will never enable for such China economy miracle to happen.

I do not know enough about chinese society to comment too deeply on it.

But economic success cannot emerge from societies that are not free, or where something close to equal opportunities do not exist.

At the same time, the lack of character among large portion of chinese population also points to the lack of social responsibility and responsible behaviour that any old civilization needs to demonstrate. Again this is from my limited understand of the chinese people, but I stand by my claim.

 

[Beast]

I do not know enough about chinese society to comment too deeply on it.

But economic success cannot emerge from societies that are not free, or where something close to equal opportunities do not exist.

At the same time, the lack of character among large portion of chinese population also points to the lack of social responsibility and responsible behaviour that any old civilization needs to demonstrate. Again this is from my limited understand of the chinese people, but I stand by my claim.

You need to understand. There is no such thing called perfect solution.

Just like everybody becomes a millionaires or billionaires is not possible. A very balance system that caters to the best need of the country is the best solution. And I dont know why you sidetrack topic to character. Do you think western society has the so called high moral? Their selective rights and freedom which reserve for white supremacy and lack of remorse for their past colonising of others really doubt their action. Their high moral ground try applies to Asia country or non white is non applicable.

 

[Shankranthi]

You need to understand. There is no such thing called perfect solution.

Just like everybody becomes a millionaires or billionaires is not possible. A very balance system that caters to the best need of the country is the best solution. And I dont know why you sidetrack topic to character. Do you think western society has the so called high moral? Their selective rights and freedom which reserve for white supremacy and lack of remorse for their past colonising of others really doubt their action. Their high moral ground try applies to Asia country or non white is non applicable.

I do understand there is no perfect solution. Only a Dharmic can understand this concept since that forms the very fundamentals of our value system.

When talking about "best solution" you are looking at only the economic factor and not the social, cultural or religious factors and aspects of life. That is a very typical narrow understanding so common among the chinese.

Morality and Ethics are two separate matters and Western societies have debated deeply about both for centuries. Does china have such debates in your society ? have your institutionalised such debates ?

If not, then chinese go by a very narrow definition of what is right and wrong, usually determined by convenience and profitability. Western societies are better than chinese in this regard.

West has shown remorse for slavery and have taken active steps to eliminate it and its after effects. Though they have certainly not shown the same considerations for victims of colonization.

But it's pointless to compare it, since china is keen to follow the same path as the west in this regard.

What claim do you have to say you are any different ?

 

[Beast]

I do understand there is no perfect solution. Only a Dharmic can understand this concept since that forms the very fundamentals of our value system.

When talking about "best solution" you are looking at only the economic factor and not the social, cultural or religious factors and aspects of life. That is a very typical narrow understanding so common among the chinese.

Morality and Ethics are two separate matters and Western societies have debated deeply about both for centuries. Does china have such debates in your society ? have your institutionalised such debates ?

If not, then chinese go by a very narrow definition of what is right and wrong, usually determined by convenience and profitability. Western societies are better than chinese in this regard.

West has shown remorse for slavery and have taken active steps to eliminate it and its after effects. Though they have certainly not shown the same considerations for victims of colonization.

But it's pointless to compare it, since china is keen to follow the same path as the west in this regard.

What claim do you have to say you are any different ?

This will be my last reply to you. Clearly you come here with tint glasses just for China bashing... You admit your limited understanding of China but yet your clear sided one conclusion for China. Trying to reason with you sounds impossible. You can continue your biased and China bashing. But for me ,China is on the right path and her result is for all to see...

For those who ignore the extreme false report and clear one side negative report generated by the sourgraped west who believe no such things exist. I rest my case here. You can continue your delusion here but China will continue to progress and growth for the better. Dont believe, get a ticket and fly to China. See for yourself rather than believed in brainwashed material feed to you by evil white supremacy people.

 

[Shankranthi]

This will be my last reply to you. Clearly you come here with tint glasses just for China bashing... You admit your limited understanding of China but yet your clear sided one conclusion for China. Trying to reason with you sounds impossible. You can continue your biased and China bashing. But for me ,China is on the right path and her result is for all to see...

For those who ignore the extreme false report and clear one side negative report generated by the sourgraped west who believe no such things exist. I rest my case here. You can continue your delusion here but China will continue to progress and growth for the better. Dont believe, get a ticket and fly to China. See for yourself rather than believed in brainwashed material feed to you by evil white supremacy people.

I frankly don't care what path china is on, that is your concern, not mine.

I am only stating facts as I see it and expressing my opinions based on the information I have.

Same as any other human being on this planet.

Same way I really do not care if china grows or stagnates. These are all your concerns, oot mine. If you are so keen for others to know and understand you, open up your society and remove the iron curtain. Allow free Internet into china and then we can have a true picture of china.

I find your outrage quite amusing. lol.

 

[American Pakistani]

This will be my last reply to you. Clearly you come here with tint glasses just for China bashing... You admit your limited understanding of China but yet your clear sided one conclusion for China. Trying to reason with you sounds impossible. You can continue your biased and China bashing. But for me ,China is on the right path and her result is for all to see...

For those who ignore the extreme false report and clear one side negative report generated by the sourgraped west who believe no such things exist. I rest my case here. You can continue your delusion here but China will continue to progress and growth for the better. Dont believe, get a ticket and fly to China. See for yourself rather than believed in brainwashed material feed to you by evil white supremacy people.

He is just a troll bharti. He have a habit of trolling on every thread and posting threads or posts where he pick one thing from either Pakistan or China. For example he pick a video of a Chinese person selling bad phones in Pakistan and he is now throwing his crap "oh a pakistani news agency talking about China". Many dawn articles are against Pakistan and it's institutions. Unlike India, in Pakistan they don't control media.

The troll bharti even claiming India is old civilization and comparing with China. Lol...

 

[RaGotimaar]

Bashing an openly Atheist country for being harsh on people that practice religions. Yeah that makes total sense. Any Faith should stay inside home and that's it. China is the real atheist country .

 

[maximuswarrior]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1039381222449971201

Dawn the den of radical Hindus.

 

[Shankranthi]

Bashing an openly Atheist country for being harsh on people that practice religions. Yeah that makes total sense. Any Faith should stay inside home and that's it. China is the real atheist country .

By that logic openly religious country should be free to execute women who do not wear hijab and stone homosexuals to death.