UN calls for immediate ban on death penalty in Pakistan

[faisal6309]

UN should stop Saudi Arabia first..

 

[Bilal.]

Not only should wahabi terrorists be hanged, they should be tortured a little as well.

All terrorists and hardened criminals. Don't put comments that divide our society.

 

[Abii]

All terrorists and hardened criminals. Don't put comments that divide our society.

Your society is divided. My comments are irrelevant.

"All terrorists and hardened criminals"

So pretty much wahabis, which is what I said.

 

[Bilal.]

Your society is divided. My comments are irrelevant.

"All terrorists and hardened criminals"

So pretty much wahabis, which is what I said.

You are an outsider and a guest from a country which is our friend. Let's keep it respectable instead of poking your nose where it does not belong. Our country is facing a very painful time and yes there are divisions which need to be bridged. Don't mock a friend, for bad time does not stay forever and good times don't last indefinitely.

 

[Finer]

I'm not a muslim buddy. I just look at the facts and the facts tell me where wahabism rules supreme, death and misery follow. They also tell me where shias are the majority, there is either absolute peace or peace relative to sunni majority areas. You fail to acknowledge this clear FACT and so you are a wahabi apologist.

This is pathetic post i have ever read in my whole life. You say you are not Muslim, but judging by your post, i can accuse you of shia apologist by that standard. Again, pathetic post, and not surprise a post from Iranian member who lacks ground reality in Pakistan.

Wahabism doesn't rule in Pakistan, Shiasm doesn't rule in Pakistan, but maybe Sunnism does considering almost 80% population in Pakistan is Sunni, nevertheless Sunnism/Shiasm have nothing to do with Wahabism. Sunni-Shia wars have everything to do with Arabia-Iran. It has nothing to do with any sects of Islam, but rather to do with certain nations provocatively promoting sectarian violence given the situation in ME is now catching up with Pakistan/Afghanistan.

That doesn't make sense. Pakistan is fighting to eradicate terrorism, all kinds of terrorism in Pakistan. That includes Sunni-funded terrorists, Shia-funded terrorists, Wahabism-funded terrorists and you name it.


Take a real look at the bold, but it seems to me that you already made up your mind about me, and i am probably wasting my time on you.

Pakistan has many sects in Islam, and all it takes funding from foreign elements to bring chaos in Pakistan using sectarian violence method to destabilize the economy. Arabia-Iran is known for that as the turmoil in ME attests to that. Once again, the problem may or may not be the ideology of those sects, but those nations are the problem for the Muslim world - proven cancer given their shady involvements in ME, Asia.

# I have nothing against Sunni, Wahhabism, Shia, and any sect of Islam, but i am against Iran and Arabia as these nations are famous for the promotion of sectarian violence in ME and the remaining of Muslim World.

Your society is divided. My comments are irrelevant.

"All terrorists and hardened criminals"

So pretty much wahabis, which is what I said.

I agree the society is divided, but good news is that those who oppose sectarian violence is majority as their support for Pakistan Army against TTP attests to that citing Zarb-e-Azb. Sooner or later, minority that supports sectarian violence will wake up in reality.

I think it is about time you avoid Iranian press. I don't know what that media feeds on Iran, and same goes with Arabian medias on Arabs.

Also, majority in Pakistan is now well-informed about world event such as Arabia-Iran given their shady involvement in ME through the policy of sectarian violence. Sooner or later, you will find majority of Pakistanis rooting against Iran and Arabia. That should be your foremost concern.

 

[Abii]

Again, Saudi Arabia is fighting terrorism too, but they're the epicenter of wahabism. Their culture is the issue. Just b/c the Pakistani govt is fighting terrorism it doesn't mean wahabism and salafi arab culture isn't an issue in Pakistan. Not only is it an issue, it's the cause of all problems in Pakistan, Afghanistan and every other sunni country in the region.

Shia majority areas are either absolutely or relatively peaceful all across the Middle East. That is a fact. Sunni majority areas are being infested with saudi wahabi brand of Islam. That is also a fact.

 

[Finer]

Again, Saudi Arabia is fighting terrorism too, but they're the epicenter of wahabism. Their culture is the issue. Just b/c the Pakistani govt is fighting terrorism it doesn't mean wahabism and salafi arab culture isn't an issue in Pakistan. Not only is it an issue, it's the cause of all problems in Pakistan, Afghanistan and every other sunni country in the region.

Shia majority areas are either absolutely or relatively peaceful all across the Middle East. That is a fact. Sunni majority areas are being infested with saudi wahabi brand of Islam. That is also a fact.

That's how i know you lack ground reality in Pakistan. This is where you come in and provide concrete evidence for assumption you make stating as fact.

Meanwhile, as i stated earlier, Zarb-e-Azb begs to differ, and majority of Pakistanis support Zarb-e-Azb which involves Pakistani army fighting TTP, Tehreek Taliban Pakistan, known for terrorism + sectarian violence in Pakistan. Google Zarb-e-Azb to learn more information as oppose to make yourself look uninformed about latest events in Pakistan.

 

[Abii]

That's how i know you lack ground reality in Pakistan. This is where you come in and provide concrete evidence for assumption you make stating as fact.

Meanwhile, as i stated earlier, Zarb-e-Azb begs to differ, and majority of Pakistanis support Zarb-e-Azb which involves Pakistani army fighting TTP, Tehreek Taliban Pakistan, known for terrorism + sectarian violence in Pakistan. Google Zarb-e-Azb to learn more information as oppose to make yourself look uninformed about latest events in Pakistan.

Instead of keep repeating the same bs about operation this and that, tell me what part of my conclusion was false. Again, Saudi Arabia, ground zero for wahabism and terrorism, is also fighting AQ and arresting people engaged in extremism. But the reality of Saudi Arabia is that their culture IS WAHABISM.

Pakistan supports the Taliban, its sunni population courts arabs like they're their brothers and wahabi and salafi ideologies rule supreme in many parts of Pakistan. You can't put a bullet in an idea. You can't fight an idea with bullets. You keep telling me how the Pakistani military is doing this and that. Who cares? The Saudis have been fighting AQ forever, but half the fighters in Iraq are from Saudi, 90% of 9/11 terrorists were Saudis and every single wahabi terrorist in Pakistan, AFG, Nigeria... is following the Saudi sect of sunni Islam. In Pakistan your army arrests a group of abduls here, executes a group of rahmans there, just to see a billion Osamas pop out from behind.

It's your culture that's the issue and you keep telling me shias and Christians share the blame too. No they don't. If you don't want to accept that fact then you deserve your situation. If you think the situation is gonna get better, wait another 10-20 years for the next crop of wahabis to mature.

 

[Finer]

Instead of keep repeating the same bs about operation this and that, tell me what part of my conclusion was false. Again, Saudi Arabia, ground zero for wahabism and terrorism, is also fighting AQ and arresting people engaged in extremism. But the reality of Saudi Arabia is that their culture IS WAHABISM.

Pakistan supports the Taliban, its sunni population courts arabs like they're their brothers and wahabi and salafi ideologies rule supreme in many parts of Pakistan. You can't put a bullet in an idea. You can't fight an idea with bullets. You keep telling me how the Pakistani military is doing this and that. Who cares? The Saudis have been fighting AQ forever, but half the fighters in Iraq are from Saudi, 90% of 9/11 terrorists were Saudis and every single wahabi terrorist in Pakistan, AFG, Nigeria... is following the Saudi sect of sunni Islam. In Pakistan your army arrests a group of abduls here, executes a group of rahmans there, just to see a billion Osamas pop out from behind.

It's your culture that's the issue and you keep telling me shias and Christians share the blame too. No they don't. If you don't want to accept that fact then you deserve your situation. If you think the situation is gonna get better, wait another 10-20 years for the next crop of wahabis to mature.

If you believe i am repeating same bs stuff, then fair enough. I already mentioned Zarb-e-Azb which you can google to gain more information and latest events about Pakistan so you can stop making uninformed posts which you still are doing with so many crazy assumption, and i don't know where to begin with.

Since you are making crazy assumption about the culture assimilation with other sects Iran or its members strongly abhor, onus is on you to provide concrete evidence to back your crazy assumptions. No one can debate with you while you constantly provide crazy assumptions, no offense.

 

[Winchester]

Instead of keep repeating the same bs about operation this and that, tell me what part of my conclusion was false. Again, Saudi Arabia, ground zero for wahabism and terrorism, is also fighting AQ and arresting people engaged in extremism. But the reality of Saudi Arabia is that their culture IS WAHABISM.

Pakistan supports the Taliban, its sunni population courts arabs like they're their brothers and wahabi and salafi ideologies rule supreme in many parts of Pakistan. You can't put a bullet in an idea. You can't fight an idea with bullets. You keep telling me how the Pakistani military is doing this and that. Who cares? The Saudis have been fighting AQ forever, but half the fighters in Iraq are from Saudi, 90% of 9/11 terrorists were Saudis and every single wahabi terrorist in Pakistan, AFG, Nigeria... is following the Saudi sect of sunni Islam. In Pakistan your army arrests a group of abduls here, executes a group of rahmans there, just to see a billion Osamas pop out from behind.

It's your culture that's the issue and you keep telling me shias and Christians share the blame too. No they don't. If you don't want to accept that fact then you deserve your situation. If you think the situation is gonna get better, wait another 10-20 years for the next crop of wahabis to mature.

Pakistan is way too complicated for you
You are looking at it i guess through your own experiences in the Middle East
Majority of sunnis in our country [an overwhelming one] don't follow the wahabi/salafi traditions
We have elected Shia Prime Ministers in this country
The problem is apart from the army Pakistan has weak state institutions
Terror organizations including sectarian ones are exploiting that and will continue to do so unless the state sorts out its business
Even if we lets say ban Wahabism in this country or stop Saudi funding for our Madressahs...Will that solve the problem???
Absolutely no unless the underlying problem of the state somehow not being able to enforce LAW is not solved

 

[Abii]

Pakistan is way too complicated for you
You are looking at it through i guess through your own experiences in the Middle East
Majority of sunnis in our country [an overwhelming one] don't follow the wahabi/salafi traditions
We have elected Shia Prime Ministers in this country
The problem is apart from the army Pakistan has weak state institutions
Terror organizations including sectarian ones are exploiting that and will continue to do so unless the state sorts out its business
Even if we lets say ban Wahabism in this country or stop Saudi funding for our Madressahs...Will that solve the problem???
Absolutely no unless the underlying problem of the state somehow not being able to enforce LAW is not solved

Yes it will. It's idiotic to think that it won't. If Iran allowed to Saudis to fund schools, if Iran allowed sunni Imamas to say whatever they wanted and if Iran allowed its sunni citizens to follow Saudi wahabism, we'd have the same problems. But we don't.

You're arguing against logic.

 

[Jayanta]

Next will be ban on Births.

The rate at which humans are growing...soon there will be on that too....the earth can sustain a certain number though. Thankfully as of now it has not exceeded the threshold.

 

[KingMamba]

The rate at which humans are growing...soon there will be on that too....the earth can sustain a certain number though. Thankfully as of now it has not exceeded the threshold.

Start with Bharat heard you guys will eclipse the Chinese soon.

 

[Winchester]

Yes it will. It's idiotic to think that it won't. If Iran allowed to Saudis to fund schools, if Iran allowed sunni Imamas to say whatever they wanted and if Iran allowed its sunni citizens to follow Saudi wahabism, we'd have the same problems. But we don't.

You're arguing against logic.

I agree with your one point of stopping foreign funding of religious schools
But the rest again gross over-simplification especially the YES IT WILL part
These problems will again pop-up in some other form
Basically Pakistan needs to do what is done by countries like Malaysia and Indonesia i.e focus on state building
Also for a man claiming to be an atheist your posts have a sectarian tone to them

 

[Jayanta]

Start with Bharat heard you guys will eclipse the Chinese soon.

China already has a one child policy, Indian government did try to push a 2 child policy during the Sanjay Gandhi time...but you know a democratic things are not that easy... it had stiff opposition from certain sections of the society...it is easy in a communist and military ruled countries. However, its not just population size, but the density and resources to meet the demand is what matters.