Ukraine to slash ties with Iran over 'evil' drones supply to Russia

[drmeson]

The way Shahed-136 is wreaking havoc, Ukrainian cries are legit.

Zelinsky's Air defense literally has no answer to random loitering trajectories. We are getting videos of their strikes.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Lying is part of human nature. Small children learn that telling the truth sometimes gets you punished. So, everyone and every nation lies to protect themselves from negative consequences. It's not something that is in the DNA of Anglo-Saxons, Chinese, Iranians or the French. It's in the DNA of human beings.

What is true, however, is that all nations should look at the Ukraine-Russia situation and ask where does justice lie. Of course, since most nations and peoples are not practicing Christians, we can't expect them to follow the Golden Rule, spoken by Jesus in His Sermon on the Mount:

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you: do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."​

if it was not for the shelling of Donbass in last 8 years id said justice is with Ukraine , but how can i say that after that . if attack on Serbia over Kosovo or attack on Libya over the fear on what will happen in ben-ghazi is justified why not attack on Ukraine over what happened in last 8 year in Donbass

 

[drmeson]

It's funny that people say these Iranian drones are ineffective or that they aren't working, one of these drones flew deep into Israel and an Israeli Former head of Mossad Danny Yatom was actually quoted as saying “It was a sophisticated operation. The UAV was almost an exact replica of the U.S. drone that fell in their territory. If it had exploded somewhere in Israel, it may not have been possible to identify it as an Iranian manufactured drone.”

A series of major advances for Iranian drone development began in the early 2010s, after a successful Iranian electronic attack on a CIA-operated Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel stealth drone hacked over its airspace in 2011 led to the aircraft being recovered intact and used as the basis for a series of flying wing stealth drones. The RQ-170 may well have been the stealthiest military aircraft in the world at the time, although Iranian sources claimed their domestic derivatives surpassed the U.S. original.

"The Saegheh reconnaissance aircraft and the Shahed 171 attack aircraft were earlier flying wing designs based on the RQ-170, with the former proving extremely survivable in some of the densest air defence environments on the planet when one penetrated Israeli airspace in February 2018. The aircraft evaded multiple attempts by Israel’s U.S.-made Patriot missile batteries to neutralise it, and had to be brought down by gunfire at close range where its stealth capabilities did not provide protection."

This is How Dangerous Iranian Stealth Drones Are - And Why That Could Soon Be Very Bad News For Ukraine

Former Mossad chief: We must take the Iranian threats very seriously - The Jerusalem Post

The reality is that Turkish drones are good but they have no combat experience. Maybe some limited operations against Armenia but Armenia had no defences, Iran has used its drones against Israel and Saudi which have a real AD so they know their drones actually work. Also, Iran got a big head start by hacking the RQ-170 and reverse engineering it so Iran will always be farther ahead of Turkey for a long time regardless of what people say. Also, Iran really worked on suicide drones which are effective and cheap, Turkey did not really invest at all on this so that is another reason for Russian success, Iranian drones are cheap which means they can be deployed in very large numbers, something the Ukrainians don't have with their expensive Bayrakters.

Propoganda is part of war. Iran has picked a side so the other side will make noise. Its understanable.

may be Iranian missiles will see action in Ukraine too.

 

[_Nabil_]

Ukrainians used to sell all kinds of military hardware to Iran's enemies like Al saud regime ..now the tables have turned and they complain..WTF...
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Ukraine sold weapons to half the world, including to Iran

Ukraine leader confirms missile sales to Iran

President Viktor Yushchenko confirmed Thursday that nuclear-capable cruise missiles were illegally sold to Iran and China under Ukraine’s previous government.

www.google.com

 

[BigMelatonin]

Ukraine sold weapons to half the world, including to Iran

Ukraine leader confirms missile sales to Iran

President Viktor Yushchenko confirmed Thursday that nuclear-capable cruise missiles were illegally sold to Iran and China under Ukraine’s previous government.

www.google.com

The pre-Maidan government did, the post-coup government is pro West. That article is from 2005 and as far as I know no sales or cooperation has taken place since the coup.

 

[_Nabil_]

The pre-Maidan government did, the post-coup government is pro West. That article is from 2005 and as far as I know no sales or cooperation has taken place since the coup.

Who else from Western countries sold Iran weapons since that era?

Also there is no UN resolution on banning weapons sales for Russia, why Iran or any other country should care ?