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Ukraine says it has attacked, destroyed part of armed convoy from Russia

Lol.....verified? How and by whom? And where is the referenced proof. Or is all you have is hearsay and a couple pictures of 1-3 tanks......im reminded of a quote. Humans arent thinkers. Humans are believers. At least the worthless sheep are.


the report was verified and appeared true

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/w...cks-are-nearly-empty-reporters-find.html?_r=0
 
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Ukrainian source reports Russian armored column in Ukraine heading towards Lugansk.

the remaining ones which escaped the ambush? the sats are watching everything, i guess, the ambush was one outstanding play of double-cross countering another

Lol.....verified? How and by whom? And where is the referenced proof. Or is all you have is hearsay and a couple pictures of 1-3 tanks......im reminded of a quote. Humans arent thinkers. Humans are believers. At least the worthless sheep are.

i meant, verified by several news agencies. look, the report is making headlines worldwide
 
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News agencies cant verify anything. They are mass market media. Only evidence and actual proof can actually verify anything. A convoy of over 23 tanks and apcs destroyed full of Russian soldiers and nobody has even a picture? And so porky the chocolate pig says something. Provides no evidence. The nato propaganda media mill pick it up and you call this " verification "?

Dont insult the intelligence of thinking individuals. That msm spam only works on blind believers.

the remaining ones which escaped the ambush? the sats are watching everything, i guess, the ambush was one outstanding play of double-cross countering nother



i meant, verified by several news agencies. look, the report is making headlines worldwide

Heres a relevant note about the media disinformation campaign going on right now with Russia and Ukraine. A thinker will read it. A believer already knows all he needs to know from the people who decide what the believer should believe.

Russian Tanks in Ukraine? Consider the Source | New Eastern Outlook
 
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News agencies cant verify anything. They are mass market media. Only evidence and actual proof can actually verify anything. A convoy of over 23 tanks and apcs destroyed full of Russian soldiers and nobody has even a picture? And so porky the chocolate pig says something. Provides no evidence. The nato propaganda media mill pick it up and you call this " verification "?

Dont insult the intelligence of thinking individuals. That msm spam only works on blind believers.

you aren't thinking. wait till the game is over. else, nato may release photos to embarrass you again, what i see is everything was planned, nato eyes in the sky might have traced the armored convoys much before they entered ukraine but they intentionally remained silent and let the vehicles in, to make legal ambush, it was a trap against another trap
 
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you aren't thinking. wait till the game is over. else, nato may release photos to embarrass you again, what i see is everything was planned, nato eyes in the sky might have traced the armored convoys much before they entered ukraine but they intentionally remained silent and let the vehicles in, to make legal ambush, it was a trap against another trap


Wow, as if Russia don't have recon too. Orlan-10 drones been flying over eastern Ukraine daily.
 
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And all the mobile phones with cameras were turned off, the reporters, of course, didn't brink their cameras either and everything was written into a small notebook.

:lol:

Have you seen a lot of battle footage from Ukraine ? I haven't.
 
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Unless you have actual proof and evidence youre just wildly speculating. Or day dreaming. If nato had real proof they would show it. But since they dont, they will do a 24 hour news cycle mexia blitz, just like the malaysian plane crash false flag.

At first, they did the same thing,then once people asked for proof, nato, as usual said,trust us, you dont need proof.

Then russian went and obliged and proved it was the kiev junta that brought the plane down. And what do you know. The news story disapears just like the flight recorders. And now nobody is even talking about it.

Same thing happened with the sarin gas false flag nato pulled in Syria....it was all in thenews until real evidence showed otherwise. Then the story disappears.

Same thing will happen here. If you actually had the mental capacity to look at things from an objective perspective youd be able to connect the dots. Since you believe what your masters tell you without any proof....well your opinion is natos opinion and basicallly worthless


you aren't thinking. wait till the game is over. else, nato may release photos to embarrass you again, what i see is everything was planned, nato eyes in the sky might have traced the armored convoys much before they entered ukraine but they intentionally remained silent and let the vehicles in, to make legal ambush, it was a trap against another trap
 
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Not to mention A-50M/U AWACs frequently flying near the Ukrainian border. Ukrainian army has no chance of setting up any ambush.
 
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Ok. Now lets move away from porkyshenko the chocolate ones wet dream about being able to beat Russia. This is whats really ggoing on in the Donbass

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How do YOU know this is what's REALLY happening over there ? I can draw shit on a map, too. You don't know any more than anyone else.
 
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That nato troll really believes a bunch of starving half naked untrained under equipped neo nazis actually destroyed a convoy of Russian Military? The same starving facists that cant even beat a rag tag group of Donbass defenders.

Not only that, they think it was an ambush with all the sats and drones Russia has over Ukraine. Lololololol


It would be laughable if it wasnt so transparently sad and pathetic.

Not to mention A-50M/U AWACs frequently flying near the Ukrainian border. Ukrainian army has no chance of setting up any ambush.
 
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Where is that gazprom kid who quoted ZH today as confirmation of the Russian incursion?

Read this little kid and understand the difference between actual proof and analysis and a simple reprint. Nobody with half a brain believes this bullshit story. Nobody.


NOT EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE. THEY JUST RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING THEY CANT VERIFY ANYTHING KIEV JUNTA SAID. THIS IS THE USA. WITH MORE SATTELITES AND DRONES THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY. IF THEY SAY THEY CANT VERIFY IT EVEN THOUGH THE HAVE SATS AND DRONES CIRCLING UKRAINE 24/7, THAT SIMPLY MEANS THERE IS NO PROOF. IT NEVER HAPPENED AND THEY KNOW IT.

READ EM AND WEEP LADIES

Did Ukraine Attack Its Own Tanks? White House "Can't Confirm Russian Convoy Was Destroyed By Kiev" | Zero Hedge
 
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Ukraine claims it has destroyed Russian military vehicles in the country's east, a day after a column was spotted moving across the border.
Ukraine's president, Petro Poroshenko, told David Cameron by phone that his country's armed forces had destroyed part of an armed convoy that the Guardian saw moving through a gap in a border fence on Thursday night.

There was no immediate proof, and it was impossible to establish if the Ukrainians had targeted the same convoy seen by the Guardian. The Russians categorically denied that any of their troops were even in Ukraine. But the claim marks a new escalation in the six-month confrontation over Ukraine and if verified would amount to the first confirmed military engagement between the two adversaries since the crisis began in the spring.

"The president informed [Cameron] that the information was trustworthy because the majority of those machines [Russian military vehicles] had been eliminated by the Ukrainian artillery at night," a statement from Poroshenko's office read.

A White House spokesman said last night: "The escalation in Russian activity designed to destabilise Ukraine in recent weeks is extremely dangerous and provocative."

The Guardian and Telegraph witnessed the convoy crossing through a gap in a wire demarcation fence on Thursday night, close to the village of Severny on the Ukrainian side. The convoy had waited by the side of the road several miles away until darkness fell, and then moved towards the border. As it crossed the fenced area armed men stood guard. It was impossible to verify the destination or ultimate fate of the convoy, or monitor how long it stayed on the other side of the border.

Nato said it had observed the Russian incursion. "What we have seen last night is the continuation of what we have seen for some time," said the Nato secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen. The reports drew swift international reaction. The Russian ambassador in London was summoned to the Foreign Office, and the foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, said he was "very alarmed" and that any incursion could have serious consequences.

Russia strongly denied any incursion. The FSB security service said it was in fact a mobile response team of border guards operating strictly within Russia's borders. A spokesperson for the FSB Border Guard Service in Rostov region told Russia Today: "When residents report about cross-border shooting and fighting in the frontier zone, these teams are immediately deployed to such areas to provide the safety of the Russian state border and Russian citizens, and also to prevent armed people from crossing into the territory of the Russian Federation."

President Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov called the reports "fake". Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said: "No Russian military column crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border by night or by day. It would be better if the Ukrainian artillery destroyed a phantom, rather than refugees or its own soldiers."

On Friday the Guardian again travelled to the site of the crossing to look at the area in daylight. A fence which demarcates the border and runs along the outer suburbs of the Russian border town of Donetsk is permeated by informal crossings and dirt tracks. Around the area where the Guardian saw the convoy the day before, a truck with Russian military plates was parked on the Russian side. It was not possible to linger as the area is a restricted zone, but military vehicles with no plates were seen coming from the direction of Ukraine, and a car carrying three men in fatigues sped in the direction of Ukraine. Several military-style vehicles with no licence plates were visible inside the Russian town of Donetsk.

Ukraine has long accused Russia of funnelling fighters and weapons across the porous border, including the Buk missile system that is believed to have brought down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine last month. Russian-backed separatist rebels are continuing to fight a rearguard action against Ukrainian armed forces in and around Donetsk in Ukraine, which has come under sustained attack in recent days.

A monitoring mission of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) is monitoring two official border points in the area. But the mission is not allowed to monitor other parts of the border, a limited mandate agreed after wrangling between the OSCE member states, which include Russia.

Ukraine claims it has destroyed Russian vehicles that crossed border | World news | The Guardian
 
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Guardian bbc telegraph etc. All MI6 DISINFORMATION AND PROPAGANDA outfits. You getting paid to post this here with all their relevant nato links?


Anyway. I SEE HUNDREDS OF WORDS IN YOUR POST. BUT NO ACTUAL PROOF OF ANYTHING. JUST NATO ACCUSATIONS.........POST THIS STORY A FEW MORE TIMES. IM SURE SOME IDIOT IS BOUND TO BELIEVE IT AND EVEN CALL IT PROOF.



Ukraine claims it has destroyed Russian military vehicles in the country's east, a day after a column was spotted moving across the border.
Ukraine's president, Petro Poroshenko, told David Cameron by phone that his country's armed forces had destroyed part of an armed convoy that the Guardian saw moving through a gap in a border fence on Thursday night.

There was no immediate proof, and it was impossible to establish if the Ukrainians had targeted the same convoy seen by the Guardian. The Russians categorically denied that any of their troops were even in Ukraine. But the claim marks a new escalation in the six-month confrontation over Ukraine and if verified would amount to the first confirmed military engagement between the two adversaries since the crisis began in the spring.

"The president informed [Cameron] that the information was trustworthy because the majority of those machines [Russian military vehicles] had been eliminated by the Ukrainian artillery at night," a statement from Poroshenko's office read.

A White House spokesman said last night: "The escalation in Russian activity designed to destabilise Ukraine in recent weeks is extremely dangerous and provocative."

The Guardian and Telegraph witnessed the convoy crossing through a gap in a wire demarcation fence on Thursday night, close to the village of Severny on the Ukrainian side. The convoy had waited by the side of the road several miles away until darkness fell, and then moved towards the border. As it crossed the fenced area armed men stood guard. It was impossible to verify the destination or ultimate fate of the convoy, or monitor how long it stayed on the other side of the border.

Nato said it had observed the Russian incursion. "What we have seen last night is the continuation of what we have seen for some time," said the Nato secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen. The reports drew swift international reaction. The Russian ambassador in London was summoned to the Foreign Office, and the foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, said he was "very alarmed" and that any incursion could have serious consequences.

Russia strongly denied any incursion. The FSB security service said it was in fact a mobile response team of border guards operating strictly within Russia's borders. A spokesperson for the FSB Border Guard Service in Rostov region told Russia Today: "When residents report about cross-border shooting and fighting in the frontier zone, these teams are immediately deployed to such areas to provide the safety of the Russian state border and Russian citizens, and also to prevent armed people from crossing into the territory of the Russian Federation."

President Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov called the reports "fake". Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said: "No Russian military column crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border by night or by day. It would be better if the Ukrainian artillery destroyed a phantom, rather than refugees or its own soldiers."

On Friday the Guardian again travelled to the site of the crossing to look at the area in daylight. A fence which demarcates the border and runs along the outer suburbs of the Russian border town of Donetsk is permeated by informal crossings and dirt tracks. Around the area where the Guardian saw the convoy the day before, a truck with Russian military plates was parked on the Russian side. It was not possible to linger as the area is a restricted zone, but military vehicles with no plates were seen coming from the direction of Ukraine, and a car carrying three men in fatigues sped in the direction of Ukraine. Several military-style vehicles with no licence plates were visible inside the Russian town of Donetsk.

Ukraine has long accused Russia of funnelling fighters and weapons across the porous border, including the Buk missile system that is believed to have brought down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine last month. Russian-backed separatist rebels are continuing to fight a rearguard action against Ukrainian armed forces in and around Donetsk in Ukraine, which has come under sustained attack in recent days.

A monitoring mission of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) is monitoring two official border points in the area. But the mission is not allowed to monitor other parts of the border, a limited mandate agreed after wrangling between the OSCE member states, which include Russia.

Ukraine claims it has destroyed Russian vehicles that crossed border | World news | The Guardian
 
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Guardian bbc telegraph etc. All MI6 DISINFORMATION AND PROPAGANDA outfits. You getting paid to post this here with all their relevant nato links?


Anyway. I SEE HUNDREDS OF WORDS IN YOUR POST. BUT NO ACTUAL PROOF OF ANYTHING. JUST NATO ACCUSATIONS.........POST THIS STORY A FEW MORE TIMES. IM SURE SOME IDIOT IS BOUND TO BELIEVE IT AND EVEN CALL IT PROOF.
I'm getting paid by MI6!!!!! Have you checked my posts? Does it look like I'm in love with the zionazis? This report simply states what Ukraine has claimed, it doesn't say it has evidence of it. However, Ukraine has released videos to corroborate her claim.

Kiev claims the partial destruction of a Russian military convoy – video | World | The Guardian
 
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