UK mosque registration plans is a secular oxymoron

[Zibago]

No its based on first hand experince with the issue, you on the other hand are not living here so better listen to my words instead of becoming emotional on every single issue regarding religion. Dont worry thinking a little bit pragmatic wont hurt your faith.


This doesnt make sense.

When did they made sense

Time to ask British Muslims
@waz @django @Atanz

What is your view?

 

[T-72M1]

given how big a wahhabi scene they have in the UK, it'd be an act of self preservation if they do start having them register and keeping tabs on the material being taught. They need to be especially mindful of Saudi funded ones, those are the ones who churn out gems like jihadi john etc

 

[bobo6661]

And Add "Yes(they need to kick them out!)" the poll will be full

Their country their law don't like it dont go there ...Catholic schools in poland are registered and working legal why should muslims schools work like a sect?

 

[Skull and Bones]

Good job UK, now please sent the radicals and Anjem Choudhury followers backpacking.

 

[Cherokee]

Luffy is getting salty over what quite a few muslim countries do including turkey . UK is one of the most multicultural nation on this planet . See first hand how they treat their minorities. They ever restructured their exams around Ramzan so that Muslim students are not under undue stress during exam . Compare it to how Muslim countries treat their immigrant Muslims leave alone minorities .

 

[jamahir]

Fix up your poll, only one answer is different from the rest.

indeed... the entire poll is rigged so clearly to forward luffy's tableeghi jamaat propaganda.

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@Luffy 500 , this is a pointless exercise of the british government - meant not to get any results... a lot of the output of british mosques was enlisted by british government in the nato invasions of libya and syria... could a rotten fool like anjem choudhry have gone about preaching poison so comfortably in pre-2011 libya and syria?? no, he would have been arrested immediately.

all these wahabi/tableeghi mullahs in britain and their students are agents of nato ( just like the sanghis in india ), so british government will not do anything to harm its database of reactionary robots - those who cry "nato hu akbar !!".

 

[waz]

Well I don't see how this is a bad thing, seeing from my own experiences how many madrassas have been trying to hide under the radar for years. The government is also really training its sights in particular sects i.e. the Salafis, who have been exposed on numerous programs peddling nonsense in their schools. It's not just Muslims either, read this;

Charedi Talmud Torah Tashbar: Stamford Hill Jewish school that does not teach English ordered to close | Home News | News | The Independent

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

DO u even know that qadiyanis don't know anything other than following their british masters like zombies?

Can u as a liberal qadiyani tell me what do u mean by extremist imam? What constitute extremism? For eg. if someone state facts such as qadiyanis are non-muslim or that homosexual acts r immoral and sinful and that there is an islamic punishment for such acts in an islamic state. Or that celebrating Christmas is prohibited for muslims. Does that imam fall into the definition of extreme? Like it or not muslims don't believe in the non-sense that individuals have absolute freedom and is an entity detached from social obligations. Ideas emanating from liberalism is bound to clash with islamic beliefs. The intolerant secular UK gov is saying that beliefs clashing with liberal values are extreme and leads to terrorism and they r ready to persecute anyone disagreeing with liberal values . Do u as a qadiyani get it now?

ALL schools here are beeing inspected, since all schools have to meet certain requirements.
A "muslim" school, not teaching the pupils about Christianity would be shut down.
Likewise a Christian school, not teaching pupils about Islam would be shut down.
And agitating against groups of people due to their race, religion or sexuality
can be unlawful, depending aggressiveness.
A "Madras", only teaching the Qur'an and not math, history etc would not be acceptable.
Most certainly, schools will and should be shut down if they do not follow the guidelines.

If Muslims believe in something which is against local laws,
then they need to work to have these laws changed.
If they cannot produce a convincing argument,
then they need to comply, or leave.

 

[Vapnope]

Every country has a right to register what is being built on its soil, mosques should be no exemption. If any mosque or any religious idea is against the country's laws or ideology, state has every right to dictate what should be taught on its soil. I don't know why we think there should be special treatment for our views everywhere.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Yes all mosques need to be registered with the government. The government should have a record of all mosques in this country and around the world. Some mosques have unfortunately become breeding grounds of hatred and terrorism. The worshippers themselves need to also help the government in identifying extremist imams so they can be apprehended.

Good move, I support it. (Even though I don't support the Conservative Party).


And Lmao at the poll. Talk about biasness.



Yet Muslims from all over the world are running to this anti Islamic country. Wonder why? Either your opinion is BS or Muslims are hypocrites.

Ouffff.................Finally a reasonable Muslim member here. I was beginning to lose hope from some Islamist members here who seem to think the whole world and west is creating some sort of evil plan against Muslims. LMAO.
These people's delusions has no boundaries bro. You cant talk sense to them, just let them be.
At least we have some reasonable Muslim members here like you and my friend @xenon54 . So all hope is not yet lost.

ALL schools here are beeing inspected, since all schools have to meet certain requirements.
A "muslim" school, not teaching the pupils about Christianity would be shut down.
Likewise a Christian school, not teaching pupils about Islam would be shut down.
And agitating against groups of people due to their race, religion or sexuality
can be unlawful, depending aggressiveness.
A "Madras", only teaching the Qur'an and not math, history etc would not be acceptable.
Most certainly, schools will and should be shut down if they do not follow the guidelines.

If Muslims believe in something which is against local laws,
then they need to work to have these laws changed.
If they cannot produce a convincing argument,
then they need to comply, or leave.

Well, when you listen to some Muslim members like that guy making such claims, you understand why many middle eastern/Muslim countries today(including his own country) are so backward. No wonder many of them will rather run away to so called 'un-Islamic evil immoral' western nations than remain in their own 'holy moral' country. lol

If the majority of people in their countries think like him, then there is little hope that region will once again rise up/catch up with the rest of the modern world. -

Luffy is getting salty over what quite a few muslim countries do including turkey . UK is one of the most multicultural nation on this planet . See first hand how they treat their minorities. They ever restructured their exams around Ramzan so that Muslim students are not under undue stress during exam . Compare it to how Muslim countries treat their immigrant Muslims leave alone minorities .

You don't need to tell him that. I'm sure many of them already know this. But they say something different for other reasons.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Better late then never, still more needs to be done. So when will the British government do something about private donations from Gulf countries pouring into UK's mosques?
Only Salafists are angry over registering mosques because that could slow down their rate of converting local British Muslims to radical ideas.

Any religious school focussed only on religion is a bad idea, we know exactly what some Muslim schools in UK are teaching to kids.

DO u even know that qadiyanis don't know anything other than following their british masters like zombies?

Can u as a liberal qadiyani tell me what do u mean by extremist imam? What constitute extremism? For eg. if someone state facts such as qadiyanis are non-muslim or that homosexual acts r immoral and sinful and that there is an islamic punishment for such acts in an islamic state. Or that celebrating Christmas is prohibited for muslims. Does that imam fall into the definition of extreme? Like it or not muslims don't believe in the non-sense that individuals have absolute freedom and is an entity detached from social obligations. Ideas emanating from liberalism is bound to clash with islamic beliefs. The intolerant secular UK gov is saying that beliefs clashing with liberal values are extreme and leads to terrorism and they r ready to persecute anyone disagreeing with liberal values . Do u as a qadiyani get it now?

Hello Mullah boy, If you want to teach hatred against others or that homosexuals should be murdered then gtfo out of UK oh wait you are not even in UK, you're not a British citizen either, your views does not count. Last time I checked Bangladeshi government is kicking your mullahs to the kerb.

 

[Tiger Genie]

really? for someone to say "yes' in this poll they have to admit they are liberal? that shows how prejudiced the OP is. Why even bother with a poll?

YES Britain has a right to protect itself from any security threat and since mosques and masjids have had a pattern of radicalizing youth into terrorists, Britain has a right and DUTY to regulate them and watch what happens their. That can only be done if they maintain records of all such locations

 

[Zarvan]

Yes all mosques need to be registered with the government. The government should have a record of all mosques in this country and around the world. Some mosques have unfortunately become breeding grounds of hatred and terrorism. The worshippers themselves need to also help the government in identifying extremist imams so they can be apprehended.

Good move, I support it. (Even though I don't support the Conservative Party).


And Lmao at the poll. Talk about biasness.



Yet Muslims from all over the world are running to this anti Islamic country. Wonder why? Either your opinion is BS or Muslims are hypocrites.

They don't run to UK because they consider UK friend of Islam

 

[fallstuff]

It is effectively Madrassah registration in disguise. Its not a bad idea if it stops/curtails Wahhabism.

 

[Worf]

Yes they should be registered, but since when did the UK become a secular state? And the poll options are clearly biased hence there isn't a need to partake..............