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LONDON: People of different colours and ethnicities face increased disadvantages in the British society, stated a British Cabinet Disparity Report on Saturday.

The report aims to highlight how people from various ethnic backgrounds in the UK compare across healthcare, employment, education and the criminal justice system.

Sources close to the British Cabinet Office said: “Other communities have integrated very well, but the audit shows that Pakistani women who don’t speak English or go out to work are living in an entirely different society and are shockingly badly integrated.

British Prime Minister Theresa May ordered the race disparity audit in August 2016. “The audit will reveal difficult truths, but we should not be apologetic about shining a light on injustices.”

The report drew a correlation between poverty and ethnicity and showed that nearly a fifth of Asian people live under persistent poverty compared to white British people in the same category. ‘Persistent poverty’ is determined when the household income for an acceptable standard of living is not met for the current year and two of the previous three years.

The report also revealed educational achievements within Asian groups: attainment levels are higher amongst Indian pupils who are more likely to meet the expected standards for their age group and make progress within targets set by the UK education board compared to Pakistani pupils. For example, 65% of Indian pupils met the expected standards for reading, writing and maths at Key Stage 2 compared to only 47% of Pakistani pupils. Key stage 2 or KS2 is the official term for the four years of schooling in maintained schools in England and Wales when students are aged between 7 and 11.

The number of Pakistanis residing in the most deprived areas of the UK is disproportionally high.

Pakistani’s comprise approximately 31% of the population. A sizeable portion is living in deprived neighbourhoods that are usually disadvantaged across multiple areas of life; including unemployment, low income and education. Furthermore, Indian, White British, Chinese and other White ethnic groups are not living disproportionately in these neighbourhoods.

The audit has received backlash from activists, including former London Deputy Mayor Munira Mirz. In an open letter to The Times, London, she wrote the government’s approach was “crude and tendentious” that may “harm the very communities they are aspiring to help”.

However, Communities Secretary Sajid Javid rejected the criticisms and said: “Although the data would not provide the answers to why the disparity existed, the government wants to work with outside groups to come up with better ways that can tackle the injustice.”

“There are hundreds of thousands of Pakistani or Bangladeshi women who don’t speak proper English or hardly speak it at all. That might be through choice in some cases, a cultural issue. However, it is a big issue because it does then hold those women back from the employment market and other opportunities,” he said.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/125137/uk-govt-data-highlights-uncomfortable-truths-for-pakistanis/
 
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LONDON: People of different colours and ethnicities face increased disadvantages in the British society, stated a British Cabinet Disparity Report on Saturday.

The report aims to highlight how people from various ethnic backgrounds in the UK compare across healthcare, employment, education and the criminal justice system.

Sources close to the British Cabinet Office said: “Other communities have integrated very well, but the audit shows that Pakistani women who don’t speak English or go out to work are living in an entirely different society and are shockingly badly integrated.

British Prime Minister Theresa May ordered the race disparity audit in August 2016. “The audit will reveal difficult truths, but we should not be apologetic about shining a light on injustices.”

The report drew a correlation between poverty and ethnicity and showed that nearly a fifth of Asian people live under persistent poverty compared to white British people in the same category. ‘Persistent poverty’ is determined when the household income for an acceptable standard of living is not met for the current year and two of the previous three years.

The report also revealed educational achievements within Asian groups: attainment levels are higher amongst Indian pupils who are more likely to meet the expected standards for their age group and make progress within targets set by the UK education board compared to Pakistani pupils. For example, 65% of Indian pupils met the expected standards for reading, writing and maths at Key Stage 2 compared to only 47% of Pakistani pupils. Key stage 2 or KS2 is the official term for the four years of schooling in maintained schools in England and Wales when students are aged between 7 and 11.

The number of Pakistanis residing in the most deprived areas of the UK is disproportionally high.

Pakistani’s comprise approximately 31% of the population. A sizeable portion is living in deprived neighbourhoods that are usually disadvantaged across multiple areas of life; including unemployment, low income and education. Furthermore, Indian, White British, Chinese and other White ethnic groups are not living disproportionately in these neighbourhoods.

The audit has received backlash from activists, including former London Deputy Mayor Munira Mirz. In an open letter to The Times, London, she wrote the government’s approach was “crude and tendentious” that may “harm the very communities they are aspiring to help”.

However, Communities Secretary Sajid Javid rejected the criticisms and said: “Although the data would not provide the answers to why the disparity existed, the government wants to work with outside groups to come up with better ways that can tackle the injustice.”

“There are hundreds of thousands of Pakistani or Bangladeshi women who don’t speak proper English or hardly speak it at all. That might be through choice in some cases, a cultural issue. However, it is a big issue because it does then hold those women back from the employment market and other opportunities,” he said.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/125137/uk-govt-data-highlights-uncomfortable-truths-for-pakistanis/
A feq questions: do these women actually want to or need to get jobs? Is there any incentive for them to learn English (presumably they are living in their own areas and do not require the use of English for their day to day lives).
 
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A feq questions: do these women actually want to or need to get jobs? Is there any incentive for them to learn English (presumably they are living in their own areas and do not require the use of English for their day to day lives).

A very dumb questions ... In my personal opinion people that not even want learn language of the country they live should be deported.
 
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Rubbish. Here in manchester e see Indian women in Saarhi all the time , and Jewish women in their traditional garment
 
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A very dumb questions ... In my personal opinion people that not even want learn language of the country they live should be deported.
That is a very dumb opinion, in my personal opinion.
So even those women who were born here...although I suspect the vast majority were not, and besides the UK government has introduced English language tests for long term immigrants, so these numbers of women will eventually decrease. But this still does not answer the question: how to get these women to learn English, if they live in their own areas and do not want/need a job???
 
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That is a very dumb opinion, in my personal opinion.
So even those women who were born here...although I suspect the vast majority were not, and besides the UK government has introduced English language tests for long term immigrants, so these numbers of women will eventually decrease. But this still does not answer the question: how to get these women to learn English, if they live in their own areas and do not want/need a job???
you cant force people to learn English(those who are already here). Guess govt can do some community outreach program and incentivize learning English.. say special classes for parents of kids who are in school.
 
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Important question is

Are they atleast wearing shalwar kameez?

Lol
 
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That is a very dumb opinion, in my personal opinion.
So even those women who were born here...although I suspect the vast majority were not, and besides the UK government has introduced English language tests for long term immigrants, so these numbers of women will eventually decrease. But this still does not answer the question: how to get these women to learn English, if they live in their own areas and do not want/need a job???


With "Living", do you mean surviving? Yup if these women are dependent, have no intention to earn in that country and eventually want to go back...no need. But if you want to be citizen or want to have working rights (meaning you don't just want to survive but want to have some status), than you must know the state's official language. In Australia too they are potentially introducing a new rule of passing an English test for citizenship.
 
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A very dumb questions ... In my personal opinion people that not even want learn language of the country they live should be deported.
How do you deport your own citizens?

The so called women are brides of British Pak citizens, who come back and marry in their towns/villages and take their wives abroad.
 
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actually they need help that is all and community can help in
this problem are present in all communities so we have to help each other

you must know the basics of the language in the country you live in so if its english try to learn it its going to be helpful
 
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wow a reason for another national holiday in india:lol:
BTW every nationality should be proud of their own culture which is more attractive and vibrant. Why indians are always feels proud of being "Dhobi ka Kutta"?
 
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In my personal opinion people that not even want learn language of the country they live should be deported.

hahaha ... says the person from the people whose flood to UK played a major factor in BREXIT!

I know a few Pols who left UK upon receiving abuse by the englishmen post brexit polls.

Dude, you can speak english but the English still shut their doors on you!
 
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