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UK defence secretary suggests US is no longer a superpower

Maybe when America was filled with conservative hard working whites it was a superpower. A hispanic/black America (massive demographic changes) will mean America will become Brazil like in the future rather then a hard working white superpower like its past. Americas days as world police is coming to a quick end.
 
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But China is the rising superpower with huge economic might. And they are wise, surely. If they cannot stop using the dollar, then may be it is the value provided by a useless fiat currency that makes the dollar the world's reserve currency, among other reasons.
Rome didn't fall in a day. Time will tell.
 
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Let me guess, you have some ideas as to what "immediate operations" the US economy needs.
why are you making this about me? if u cant counter my point, please move on. thanks.
 
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Maybe when America was filled with conservative hard working whites it was a superpower. A hispanic/black America (massive demographic changes) will mean America will become Brazil like in the future rather then a hard working white superpower like its past. Americas days as world police is coming to a quick end.
USA became a global power thanks to blacks and the free work force provided by Africans. Landlords and the oil cartels all had blacks as their working force during the industrial Revolution.

Look at olympics as a simple example, how many of whites won medals? How many blacks/asian/latin Americans?
 
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why are you making this about me? if u cant counter my point, please move on. thanks.

My comment was to elicit your ideas, if you have any, rather than about you, please note. After all, you did post that the

US economy needs serious restructuring and some immediate "operations" to get it back on healthy, sustainable, equitable track
 
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My comment was to elicit your ideas, if you have any, rather than about you, please note. After all, you did post that the
dont elicit any of my ideas, because you dont actually want to hear them. if you dont know how to argue a point, stay away from arguments then on forums.
 
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dont elicit any of my ideas, because you dont actually want to hear them. if you dont know how to argue a point, stay away from arguments then on forums.

The point made here is that you deride the US economy and its systems, but really have no ideas on how to improve it, just as expected. :D
 
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Yes, so I have been hearing ad nauseum on PDF for years, and it hasn't happened yet. The world uses the dollar as it reserve currency not just for trade, but many other reasons too.

Here the long story short, I hope you have trust on WSJ.

 
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This imaginary Russian threat.

Hey, people like you won't be ashamed of claiming that USA has occupied and destroyed South America and Africa to stop Russia from pummelling them, eh?

The US has the strongest economy, military, and cultural influence in the world. The first place the majority of people dream of studying or settling in is the US. Sounds like a superpower to me. Just because they didn't turn Afghanistan into a crater to kill every last Talib doesn't mean they're weak.

Also, the main deterrent of NATO countries is US backing. No country can project power like the US.
 
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The US has the strongest economy, military, and cultural influence in the world. The first place the majority of people dream of studying or settling in is the US. Sounds like a superpower to me.
We are not in year 2005 bro, we are in yea 2021.
 
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The US has the strongest economy, military, and cultural influence in the world. The first place the majority of people dream of studying or settling in is the US. Sounds like a superpower to me. Just because they didn't turn Afghanistan into a crater to kill every last Talib doesn't mean they're weak.

Also, the main deterrent of NATO countries is US backing. No country can project power like the US.
I would have agreed with you if we lived in Reagan era. Trump hit the final nail on American coffin. Nowadays everyone even USA's close allies confess that USA has significantly declined.

Today's USA suffers from outdated infrastructures, warmongering all around the world, trillions of debt, trillions wasted on wars and the global chanllenges such as China that economically surpassed USA. This brings lack of trust in dollar in a global scale hence making Europeans, South Americans and asians eager to use Chinese investment. Even USA's bastard Israel is trying to use Chinese investment in its major civil projects.

A simple example of USA's dying infrastructures :



This is the modern day USA. USSA to be more exact
 
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We are not in year 2005 bro, we are in yea 2021.

And in the year 2021 the US still has, by far, the most comprehensive power in the world. And it’s not really that close.

No other country possesses the influence the US does on a daily basis, from economic to military to technological and cultural.
 
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US is a sooper pawa for 3rd world helpless countries that cannot hit back. For those that can it is nothing more than a global chakka..
 
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And in the year 2021 the US still has, by far, the most comprehensive power in the world. And it’s not really that close.

No other country possesses the influence the US does on a daily basis, from economic to military to technological and cultural.



True, but they still got their ars*es handed to them by the taliban........... :azn:
 
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And in the year 2021 the US still has, by far, the most comprehensive power in the world.
Keyword being POWER! Yes, US has the most power in general, but it apparently cant use it effectively anymore to its benefit. Please look at the sentence in the article that i bolded. You dont listen.



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Is the U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan the End of the American Empire?
Only time will tell whether the old adage about Afghanistan’s being the graveyard of empires proves as true for the United States as it did for the Soviet Union.
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By Jon Lee Anderson
September 1, 2021
A U.S. soldier stands along an airport roof looking out at an American flag and a Gadsden flag flying in the distance.

For two decades now, the U.S. has seemed increasingly unable to effectively harness its military prowess and economic strength to its advantage.Photograph by Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times / AFP / Getty








How does an empire die? Often, it seems, there is a growing sense of decay, and then something happens, a single event that provides the tipping point. After the Second World War, Great Britain was all but bankrupt and its Empire was in shreds, but it soldiered on thanks to a U.S. government loan and the new Cold War exigencies that allowed it to maintain the outward appearance of a global player. It wasn’t until the 1956 Suez debacle, when Britain was pressured by the U.S., the Soviet Union, and the United Nations to withdraw its forces from Egypt—which it had invaded along with Israel and France following Gamal Abdel Nasser’s seizure of the Suez Canal—that it became clear that its imperial days were over. The floodgates to decolonization soon opened.
In February, 1989, when the Soviet Union withdrew its military from Afghanistan after a failed nine-year attempt to pacify the country, it did so in a carefully choreographed ceremony that telegraphed solemnity and dignity. An orderly procession of tanks moved north across the Friendship Bridge, which spans the Amu Darya river, between Afghanistan and Uzbekistan—then a Soviet republic. The Soviet commander, Lieutenant-General Boris Gromov, walked across with his teen-age son, carrying a bouquet of flowers and smiling for the cameras. Behind him, he declared, no Soviet soldiers remained in the country. “The day that millions of Soviet people have waited for has come,” he said at a military rally later that day. “In spite of our sacrifices and losses, we have totally fulfilled our internationalist duty.”
Gromov’s triumphal speech was not quite the equivalent of George W. Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” following the 2003 Iraq invasion, but it came close, and the message that it was intended to relay, at least to people inside the Soviet Union, was a reassuring one: the Red Army was leaving Afghanistan because it wanted to, not because it had been defeated. The Kremlin had installed an ironfisted Afghan loyalist who was left to run things in its absence, a former secret-police chief named Najibullah; there was also a combat-tested Afghan Army, equipped and trained by the Soviets.
Meanwhile, the mujahideen guerrilla armies that had been subsidized and armed by the United States and its partners Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were in a celebratory mood. Their combat units were massed outside Afghanistan’s regime-held cities, and there was an expectation that it would not be long before Najibullah succumbed, too, and Kabul would be theirs. In the end, he held out for another three years, with his downfall merely leading to a new civil war.
For all the talk of internationalist duty, the Afghanistan that the Soviets left behind was a charnel ground. Out of its population of twelve million people, as many as two million civilians had been killed in the war, more than five million had fled the country, and another two million were internally displaced. Many of the country’s towns and cities lay in ruins, and half of Afghanistan’s rural villages and hamlets had been destroyed.
Officially, only fifteen thousand or so Soviet troops had been killed—although the real figure may be much higher—and fifty thousand more soldiers were wounded. But hundreds of aircraft, tanks, and artillery pieces were destroyed or lost, and countless billions of dollars diverted from the hard-pressed Soviet economy to pay for it all. However much the Kremlin tried to gloss it over, the average Soviet citizen understood that the Afghanistan intervention had been a costly fiasco.
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It was only eighteen months after the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan that a group of hard-liners tried to launch a coup against the reformist premier Mikhail Gorbachev. But they had miscalculated their power, and popular support. In the face of public demonstrations against them, their putsch soon failed, followed by the collapse of the Soviet Union itself. Of course, by then, much beyond the Soviet Union’s Afghan quagmire had conspired to fatally weaken the once powerful Empire from within.


While the two events are humiliatingly comparable, only time will tell whether the old adage about Afghanistan’s being the graveyard of empires proves as true for the United States as it did for the Soviet Union. My colleague Robin Wright thinks so, writing, on August 15th, “America’s Great Retreat [from Afghanistan] is at least as humiliating as the Soviet Union’s withdrawal in 1989, an event that contributed to the end of its empire and Communist rule. . . . Both of the big powers withdrew as losers, with their tails between their legs, leaving behind chaos.” When I asked James Clad, a former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, for his thoughts on the matter, he e-mailed me, “It’s a damaging blow, but the ‘end’ of Empire? Not yet, and probably not for a long time. The egregious defeat has hammered American prestige, however, delivering the geopolitical equivalent of egg on our face. Is that a fatal blow? In the wider world, America still retains its offshore power-balancing function. And despite some overheated journalism, no irreversible advantage has passed to our primary geopolitical opponent—China.”

It is true that, for the time being, America retains its military prowess and its economic strength. But, for two decades now, it has seemed increasingly unable to effectively harness either of them to its advantage. Instead of enhancing its hegemony by deploying its strengths wisely, it has repeatedly squandered its efforts, diminishing both its aura of invincibility and its standing in the eyes of other nations. The vaunted global war on terror—which included Bush’s invasion of Iraq for the purpose of finding weapons of mass destruction that did not exist, Barack Obama’s decision to intervene in Libya and his indecisiveness about a “red line” in Syria, and Donald Trump’s betrayal of the Kurds in the same country and his 2020 deal with the Taliban to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan—has effectively caused terrorism to metastasize across the planet. Al Qaeda may no longer be as prominent as it was on 9/11, but it still exists and has a branch in North Africa; ISIS has affiliates there, too, and in Mozambique, and, of course, as the horrific attacks last Thursday at Kabul airport underscored, in Afghanistan. And the Taliban have returned to power, right where it all began twenty years ago.
Rory Stewart, a former British government minister who served on Prime Minister Theresa May’s National Security Council, told me that he has observed the events in Afghanistan with “horror”:
Throughout the Cold War, the United States had a consistent world view. Administrations came and went, but the world view didn’t change that much. And then, following 9/11, we—America’s allies—went along with the new theories it came up with to explain its response to the terrorist threat in Afghanistan and elsewhere. But there’s been a total lack of continuity since then; the way the United States viewed the world in 2006 is night and day to how it views it today. Afghanistan has gone from being the center of the world to one in which we are told that such places pose no threat at all. What that suggests is that all of the former theorizing now means nothing. To see this lurch to isolationism that is so sudden that it practically destroys everything we’ve fought for together for twenty years is deeply disturbing.




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Stewart, who co-founded the Turquoise Mountain Foundation—which has supported cultural heritage projects, health, and education in Afghanistan for fifteen years years—and is now a senior fellow at Yale’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs, was skeptical of Joe Biden’s assertion that the strategic priorities of the United States no longer lie in places like Afghanistan, but in countering China’s expansion. “If this were true,” he said, “then clearly part of the logic of the American confrontation with China would be to say, ‘We’re going to demonstrate our values with our presence across the world,’ just as it did in the Cold War with the U.S.S.R. And one way you’d do that is to continue your presence in the Middle East and other places, because removing yourself is counterproductive. In the end, I think all of this talk about a China pivot is really just an excuse for American isolationism.”
Back to the nagging question: Does the return of the Taliban in Afghanistan represent the end of the American era? On the heels of what appears to have been a disastrous decision by Biden to adhere to a U.S. troop drawdown that was set in motion by his feckless predecessor, it can certainly be said that the international image of the United States has been damaged. It seems a valid question to ask whether the United States can claim much moral authority internationally after handing Afghanistan, and its millions of hapless citizens, back to the custody of the Taliban. But it remains unclear whether, as Stewart suggests, the U.S. retreat from Afghanistan represents part of a larger inward turn, or whether, as Clad believes, the U.S. may soon reassert itself somewhere else to show the world that it still has muscle. Right now, it feels as if the American era isn’t quite over, but it isn’t what it once was, either.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dail...om-afghanistan-the-end-of-the-american-empire
 
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