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According to the Russian military news network reported on July 11, a variety of no active war era weapons and equipment come sooner or later, one of the most interesting will be lurking in the air at the decisive moment from a sudden unexpected places fatal blow to the enemy launched the UAV. In this regard, the monopoly of the United States and Israel has been broken, the Chinese rapid progress, achievements are striking, impressive.

Currently the armed forces around the world are actively developing a variety of unmanned aerial vehicles and equipment from enemy positions to the implementation of high-precision missiles and bombs against a few tons of large-scale unmanned attack aircraft, to fly from the cracks in the transom into the indoor surveillance, remote real-time transmission of visual information, "dragonfly espionage" type unmanned reconnaissance aircraft, and for maintaining order and hunt down criminals, missing persons search and rescue, surveillance, forest fire and other special purpose unmanned aerial vehicles are now available, cost different. From the actual cost to complete the tasks of view, the UAV is far superior to manned aircraft, so in order to effectively combat the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan and "base" Qaeda militants, while reducing their own casualties, the United States in recent years Army active use of various types of unmanned attack aircraft, unmanned U.S. Air Force last year alone in the northwestern Pakistan missile attack carried out 110 times. Pakistani officials continue to protest, accused the United States would violate Pakistan's sovereignty and territorial integrity, but the Pakistani military is also actively using unmanned aerial vehicles, including the United States will provide 85 "Raven" UAV.

Russian media said that if the world is only relatively recently that the United States and Israel, development and production of advanced unmanned aerial vehicles, then the monopoly they have now been completely broken, of particular concern is China. Just five years ago, has just developed the first China-made unmanned aircraft, and by November last year, in Zhuhai International Air Show China even once launched on the 25 most advanced unmanned aerial vehicles, of which there are few kinds of unmanned attack aircraft, capable of launching missile attacks on ground (water) surface of the target, but there is a fighter equipped with the engine, the world's fastest unmanned aircraft. Confirmed that China has developed the fastest of the Japanese military UAV, the Japanese patrol aircraft fleet captured following the Chinese warships return from the training ground of Chinese UAV photos. Japan's Ministry of Defense claimed that the Chinese navy three destroyers, four frigates, four auxiliary vessels for fire training at sea in early June, the evening of June 22 to 23 am through Japan and Okinawa, Miyako Island, the waters return. Japan Maritime Self Defense Force from aerial reconnaissance photographs taken to the Chinese UAV, you can see a few meters long aircraft, the shape resembles the U.S. Marine Corps RQ-2 "Pioneer" UAV. Clearly, China is a large UAV helicopter deck on the ship took off, and its primary purpose may be through aerial reconnaissance, airborne missiles and warships as far to provide artillery target indication. Intelligence analysts speculated that, due to China's high precision satellite network coverage is not very extensive, unmanned combat mission is fully capable of implementation on the sea to provide invaluable support.

Russian media noted that although Japan is the first time in a documentary form to confirm the existence of China's unmanned attack aircraft, but also waiting for the Chinese senior military made a formal response. But in any case, the Chinese test sea-based unmanned aerial vehicles to demonstrate the 5th generation fighter F -20, plus the "Kuznetsov" aircraft carrier near the end of the conversion work, all of which show that China's military power is rapidly expanding. China made in the field of UAV development excellence first alerted the neighboring Asian countries, forcing countries to have announced to accelerate the pace of UAV development increased. Such as India announced this spring, will be developed to implement the China-made missiles and bombs against unmanned attack aircraft, expected weight as much as 15 tons, can reach altitudes above 9000 m; South Korean military forces have made unmanned aerial vehicles developed, including South Korea, the Army will In 2014 equipment 30 KUS-9 unmanned aerial vehicles, its flying height of 4,000 meters, empty time up to 6 hours, 60 kilometers away can transmit real-time reconnaissance information; Turkey announced its intention to produce weight less than 70 kg, flying about 20 hours of when made unmanned aerial vehicles.

Although China as the representative of the rest of the world in the field of UAV development progress rapidly, but the U.S. and Israel are still in leading position. Israel Aircraft Industries developed a new product recently conducted a public display, it is the world's first type of VTOL UAV "Black Panther", combines the advantages of helicopters and aircraft, the use of tilt-rotor, can be as as vertical takeoff and landing helicopter to hover, like an airplane can fly high and weighs about 650 kg, flight duration 6 hours, range 60 km, altitude 3,000 meters, with a full planetarium and laser target tracking system indicator. In addition, Israel Aircraft Industries will soon supply to modernize its armed forces, "Heron" UAV, its technical performance advantages over all similar products, in any weather conditions 24 hours a day in combat and reconnaissance task can stay in the air two days, flying height of more than 10,000 meters, weight 1200 kg, can carry a payload 250 kg. (Compiled: Shu-shan)
 
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Is this Ifeng stuff credible? You boys seem to be google translating everything from there.
 
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Ifeng is online branch of Phoenix TV based in Hong Kong, it is the most influencial private owned Chinese TV worldwide.

Their military commentators are from Hong Kong, Beijiing, Taipei and Washington, and they are either ex-high ranking military men or experience military analysis. The host commentator from Hong Kong may sometimes be over-nationalistic in his views, the views of Taipei commentator (a general), Washington (a professional military analysis), and Beijing (military analysis/ academics) can be quite neutral. The Beijing commentator can sometime be quite conservative.

Their programme also include field interviews and documentations of military exercises, example the Russian-China anti-terrorists joint exercises. They are also the only private Chinese TV to get permission to film in North Korea.

So among all Chinese language media in the world, whether private or state owned, they are probably the most credible.
 
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Is this Ifeng stuff credible?
at least for this subject on UAV is confirmed. Chinese companies have begun actively marketing them in airshow so we have details coming into public knowledge. we may soon see other countries deploying China made UAVs...
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where Russia stand in UAVs I havent see any news russian uav news in years?
 
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where Russia stand in UAVs I havent see any news russian uav news in years?

UAV's concept started coming to pratice in late 90s, so we can say its the new defence area for the future warfare,

one of the reasons russia is so behind were the fact that after the collapse of Soviet Union, almost all of their defence industries (except jet engines and BMs) came to stall, no fund and brain drain`

and you can look at all the new weapons developed after the collapse were modifications of ex-soviet stuff``really hard to find out few things which was entirely developed after 90s`
 
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News of Russisa buying UAV from Israel. This indicate that Russia's own UAV program may not be doing well, they bought Israelis UAV probably to kick start their own versions.

IAI delivers 12 UAVs to Russia in key deal

Published: Jan. 17, 2011 at 11:05 AM


TEL AVIV, Israel, Jan. 17 (UPI) -- Israeli Aerospace Industries has delivered a dozen unmanned aerial vehicles to Russia under a $400 million contract that will eventually allow Moscow to manufacture advanced drones that will significantly enhance its military capabilities.

The delivery of the short-range Bird-Eye 400 and I-View Mk 150 aircraft, plus the longer-range Searcher II, in recent weeks is part of an Israeli effort to encourage the Russians not to provide Iran and Syria with advanced weapons systems that could threaten the Jewish state, The Jerusalem Post reported.

"It is reasonable … to argue that Israel viewed UAV sales and joint military technology activity as a means of bringing influence to bear on Moscow," Defense Weekly observed.

The UAVs delivered by state-owned IAI, flagship of Israel's high-tech defense industry, stemmed from a ground-breaking April 2009 contract worth $53 million. That marked Russia's first purchase of a foreign weapons system.

That, in turn, led to the $400 million deal between IAI and Russia's Oboronprom OPK Group in October 2010 under which the Russians will independently manufacture the Heron 1, one of Israel's most advanced UAVs capable of strategic missions.

As part of the deal, IAI trained some 50 Russian pilots at its main facility near Ben Gurion International Airport near Tel Aviv.

It isn't clear whether IAI will provide Russia with the Heron TP, or Eitan, a 4.5-ton aerial titan that is understood to be able to carry air-to-ground missiles.

That seems unlikely, in the short term at least, given the Heron's strategic capabilities, which Israel is reluctant to share. But says Moscow has expressed an interest in the Heron TP.

The craft is 79 feet long and has a wingspan of 86 feet and can stay aloft for 20 hours at high altitudes, making it capable of reaching Iran from Israel.

UAVs have become a major export of Israel's defense industry.

"Israel is the world's leading exporter of drones, with more than 1,000 sold in 42 countries," Jacques Chemia, chief engineer of IAI's UAV division, said recently.

Moscow's decision last June to scrap an $800 million contract to provide Iran with powerful S-300PMU air-defense missile systems clearly has helped Israel overcome its reservations about providing technology to Russia.

Tehran wanted the systems to protect its nuclear installations, which the Israelis have threatened to attack. The S-300s would have been a formidable obstacle for Israeli warplanes.

Israel wants Moscow to ditch plans to sell Syria the advanced supersonic P-800 Yakhont cruise missile that could pose a series threat to Israel's navy, particularly if they are passed on to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

From the Russian point of view, the deals with Israel underline how Moscow is accelerating efforts to obtain major military platforms from the West, a fundamental revision of Russian military procurement strategy.

Securing licenses from foreign defense manufacturers, such as IAI, to produce the equipment in Russia is significant as it will bolster the Kremlin's plans to revive its moribund defense industry over the next decade.

"While design bureaus and major builders have experience building major platforms such as fighter aircraft, tanks and submarines, they are hopelessly behind European and U.S. manufacturers in their ability to produce modern electronics and advanced equipment," according to an Oxford Analytica assessment in August.

The Russian air force received no new aircraft from 1994-2003 and only three since then. These were early models of the T-50 fifth-generation fighter that was supposed to revitalize the air force by 2015. But because of design problems, particularly with the power plant, the air force is unlikely to start taking delivery of the first jets until 2018 at the earliest.

Russia has been unable to get off the ground with advanced UAVs, a shortcoming that became all too evident during the brief 2008 war with the former Soviet republic of Georgia.

It was Georgia's use of long-endurance Hermes 450 tactical spy drones, built by Israel's Elbit Defense Systems, to provide battlefield reconnaissance that caught Moscow's interest.

This issue was sufficiently sensitive that the Israelis were uneasy about to selling UAVs to Russia, particularly since Moscow was providing advanced weapons systems to Iran and Syria.

Washington was concerned enough about the proposed UAV sales that it "requested clarifications" from Israel's Defense Ministry, the liberal daily Haaretz reported in June


Read more: IAI delivers 12 UAVs to Russia in key deal - UPI.com

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i remember there was one CCTV program about J-20, the high ranking army officer invited to the show were very vigilant about the things he says```unlike the other military 'professor' put a lot assumptions on table``

and at the end show, i guess the show host realize it is impossible to get out any details from the officer, so he asked a vague question about J-20's capability against F-22

he said something like this (read the implication): obviously F-22 is the pioneer of 5th gen fighter, it is unrealistic to challenge F-22 with J-20 in a duel```however our next generation stealth fighters dont fight alone, they have UAVs in support, and this is the system we are going to develop, and no one even has this in concept yet`!!!
 
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But those outdated are still the most scary things for China right!?

The irony is China reproducing of those weapons with about 70% quality of it original!?

i have no idea what you are talking about`
 
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i have no idea what you are talking about`

Admit the truth, you look down on Russian weapons but most of your weapons are based on the Russian technology and the quality of Chinese weapons are about 70% of the Russian made ones.

Even a small country like Vietnam don't see your Chinese achievement in arm industry a big problem!!! Japan? Oh no, you are nothing to them!?

When a weapon don't make your enemy afraid of it then it is useless!!!
 
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Admit the truth, you look down on Russian weapons but most of your weapons are based on the Russian technology and the quality of Chinese weapons are about 70% of the Russian made ones.

Even a small country like Vietnam don't see your Chinese achievement in arm industry a big problem!!! Japan? Oh no, you are nothing to them!?

When a weapon don't make your enemy afraid of it then it is useless!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about. Just like your ridiculous assertions in the satellite thread.

By the way. Nice to see you again peter.
 
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According to the Russian military news network reported on July 11, a variety of no active war era weapons and equipment come sooner or later, one of the most interesting will be lurking in the air at the decisive moment from a sudden unexpected places fatal blow to the enemy launched the UAV. In this regard, the monopoly of the United States and Israel has been broken, the Chinese rapid progress, achievements are striking, impressive.

Currently the armed forces around the world are actively developing a variety of unmanned aerial vehicles and equipment from enemy positions to the implementation of high-precision missiles and bombs against a few tons of large-scale unmanned attack aircraft, to fly from the cracks in the transom into the indoor surveillance, remote real-time transmission of visual information, "dragonfly espionage" type unmanned reconnaissance aircraft, and for maintaining order and hunt down criminals, missing persons search and rescue, surveillance, forest fire and other special purpose unmanned aerial vehicles are now available, cost different. From the actual cost to complete the tasks of view, the UAV is far superior to manned aircraft, so in order to effectively combat the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan and "base" Qaeda militants, while reducing their own casualties, the United States in recent years Army active use of various types of unmanned attack aircraft, unmanned U.S. Air Force last year alone in the northwestern Pakistan missile attack carried out 110 times. Pakistani officials continue to protest, accused the United States would violate Pakistan's sovereignty and territorial integrity, but the Pakistani military is also actively using unmanned aerial vehicles, including the United States will provide 85 "Raven" UAV.

Russian media said that if the world is only relatively recently that the United States and Israel, development and production of advanced unmanned aerial vehicles, then the monopoly they have now been completely broken, of particular concern is China. Just five years ago, has just developed the first China-made unmanned aircraft, and by November last year, in Zhuhai International Air Show China even once launched on the 25 most advanced unmanned aerial vehicles, of which there are few kinds of unmanned attack aircraft, capable of launching missile attacks on ground (water) surface of the target, but there is a fighter equipped with the engine, the world's fastest unmanned aircraft. Confirmed that China has developed the fastest of the Japanese military UAV, the Japanese patrol aircraft fleet captured following the Chinese warships return from the training ground of Chinese UAV photos. Japan's Ministry of Defense claimed that the Chinese navy three destroyers, four frigates, four auxiliary vessels for fire training at sea in early June, the evening of June 22 to 23 am through Japan and Okinawa, Miyako Island, the waters return. Japan Maritime Self Defense Force from aerial reconnaissance photographs taken to the Chinese UAV, you can see a few meters long aircraft, the shape resembles the U.S. Marine Corps RQ-2 "Pioneer" UAV. Clearly, China is a large UAV helicopter deck on the ship took off, and its primary purpose may be through aerial reconnaissance, airborne missiles and warships as far to provide artillery target indication. Intelligence analysts speculated that, due to China's high precision satellite network coverage is not very extensive, unmanned combat mission is fully capable of implementation on the sea to provide invaluable support.

Russian media noted that although Japan is the first time in a documentary form to confirm the existence of China's unmanned attack aircraft, but also waiting for the Chinese senior military made a formal response. But in any case, the Chinese test sea-based unmanned aerial vehicles to demonstrate the 5th generation fighter F -20, plus the "Kuznetsov" aircraft carrier near the end of the conversion work, all of which show that China's military power is rapidly expanding. China made in the field of UAV development excellence first alerted the neighboring Asian countries, forcing countries to have announced to accelerate the pace of UAV development increased. Such as India announced this spring, will be developed to implement the China-made missiles and bombs against unmanned attack aircraft, expected weight as much as 15 tons, can reach altitudes above 9000 m; South Korean military forces have made unmanned aerial vehicles developed, including South Korea, the Army will In 2014 equipment 30 KUS-9 unmanned aerial vehicles, its flying height of 4,000 meters, empty time up to 6 hours, 60 kilometers away can transmit real-time reconnaissance information; Turkey announced its intention to produce weight less than 70 kg, flying about 20 hours of when made unmanned aerial vehicles.

Although China as the representative of the rest of the world in the field of UAV development progress rapidly, but the U.S. and Israel are still in leading position. Israel Aircraft Industries developed a new product recently conducted a public display, it is the world's first type of VTOL UAV "Black Panther", combines the advantages of helicopters and aircraft, the use of tilt-rotor, can be as as vertical takeoff and landing helicopter to hover, like an airplane can fly high and weighs about 650 kg, flight duration 6 hours, range 60 km, altitude 3,000 meters, with a full planetarium and laser target tracking system indicator. In addition, Israel Aircraft Industries will soon supply to modernize its armed forces, "Heron" UAV, its technical performance advantages over all similar products, in any weather conditions 24 hours a day in combat and reconnaissance task can stay in the air two days, flying height of more than 10,000 meters, weight 1200 kg, can carry a payload 250 kg. (Compiled: Shu-shan)

Congrats to china in its progress and achievements. China is a beacon in the dark for its neighbours,
 
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just like your ridiculous assertions in the satellite thread.

By the way. Nice to see you again peter.

Hey you seem too sensitive and begin so defensive!!! You are the one who pissed off by my question and can't give me a good answer!?

Don't be a stubborn!!
 
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