UAE to order 12 L-15 light attack planes from China as it diversify suppliers – news agency

[Bilal9]

Nope. Hongdu quit the tender because the Malaysians want to pay in palm oil. Only LCA, MiG-35, and Hurjet are still in the tender.

Well LCA is out then. India has plenty of Palm Oil production in South India by itself.

 

[Indos]

Bro I'm not sure if the link is credible. Seems like PAC (JF-17) and Boeing (T-7A) have backed out due to palm oil payment terms, and Czech Aero Vodochy (L39NH) backed out due to supersonic requirement. Six bids were submitted for the Malaysia LCA/FLIT tender:

1. Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) partnering with local company Kemalak Systems Sdn Bhd to offer the FA-50
2. Turkey Aerospace Industries, offering Hürjet
3. China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corp (CATIC), with its L-15
4. Italy’s Leonardo, with its M-346
5. India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd, with its Tejas
6. Aerospace Technology Systems Corp Sdn Bhd (71.43%-controlled by Tan Sri Ahmad Johan’s National Aerospace and Defence Industries Sdn Bhd (Nadi), 23% by a company called Russian Aircraft and 4.76% by another Russian outfit Rosoboronexport) offering Mig-35

Six companies bidding for RMAF LCA contract

SIX companies are understood to have submitted bids to supply 18 light combat aircraft (LCA) to the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) in a tender that closed last week, sources say. While the details were not readily available, the contract for one squadron (18 planes) of LCA is said to ...

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I predict Malaysia will pick FA 50

This then will smooth the possibility of Malaysia to induct KF21/IFX in 2028 as Malaysia has stated MRCA program will only be started at that period

 

[MH.Yang]

I dont think China reject such barter trade. In fact, barter trade is always what China prefer especially China needs oil palm.

China sees favourable prospects for sustainable palm oil production - Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO)

Recent developments in palm oil research and newly approved oil palm varieties are boosting China’s prospects for a sustainable palm oil market, helping the country reduce its dependence on imports. In China, the future looks bright for sustainable palm oil production. Promising developments...

www.rspo.org

If China agrees to Malaysia's request this time. Then all future trade with Malaysia will be required to use goods exchange. This will have an impact on our overall trade with ASEAN.
We are promoting CNY settlement in ASEAN, which has achieved good results.

 

[Black Tornado]

I predict Malaysia will pick FA 50

This then will smooth the possibility of Malaysia to induct KF21/IFX in 2028 as Malaysia has stated MRCA program will only be started at that period

FA 50 has an Israeli radar, while we can offer our own radar.

 

[Indos]

FA 50 has an Israeli radar, while we can offer our own radar.

Too much sensitivity on Malaysian part, Indonesian TA 50 Golden Eagle also use Israel Radar and even we bought complete MALE UAV from Israel using third party (Philippine).

We still embargo Israel, but for defense equipments we are less strict

 

[Beast]

One potential problem is with Ukraine chocking the engine supply given how tense the situation is between Russia, a China ally, and Ukraine. So far they've delivered 200 engines. Will the substitute in case delivery is stopped?

I don't think engine is the problem. PLAAF wouldn't adopt it, if there is engine supply problem. Do take note , Ukraine owe China plenty of money, they have no way to pay back.

Supply us engine which we are using is one of the repayment method. What I know is, minshan engine project has long materialised. China can produced the engine but the demand is still great.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I don't think engine is the problem. PLAAF wouldn't adopt it, if there is engine supply problem. Do take note , Ukraine owe China plenty of money, they have no way to pay back.

Supply us engine which we are using is one of the repayment method. What I know is, minshan engine project has long materialised. China can produced the engine but the demand is still great.

Ukraine is getting bombed to hell. I think the deal is dead until China could get domestic engine working. At least they have motivation now.

 

[Beast]

Ukraine is getting bombed to hell. I think the deal is dead until China could get domestic engine working. At least they have motivation now.

Russia helping China to regain back Motor Sich and engine supply from pro western Ukraine. Thank you Putin.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Russia helping China to regain back Motor Sich and engine supply from pro western Ukraine. Thank you Putin.

CAATSA. Although JF-17 also uses Russian engine so I guess it might workout.

The real risk is Motor Sich getting blown to pieces. That will be a major hurdle on delivery.

 

[Beast]

CAATSA. Although JF-17 also uses Russian engine so I guess it might workout.

The real risk is Motor Sich getting blown to pieces. That will be a major hurdle on delivery.

Xi gives Putin special reminder. Putin will ensure motor sich in one piece.

 

[Battlion25]

I don't think engine is the problem. PLAAF wouldn't adopt it, if there is engine supply problem. Do take note , Ukraine owe China plenty of money, they have no way to pay back.

Supply us engine which we are using is one of the repayment method. What I know is, minshan engine project has long materialised. China can produced the engine but the demand is still great.

Ukraine may not be anymore to Pay that back

 

[siegecrossbow]

Ukraine may not be anymore to Pay that back

Maybe the Motor Sich guys can go to Chengdu and reform their company.
There is an Eastern Orthodx church and a pretty big Ukranian community there already.

 

[Beast]

Ukraine may not be anymore to Pay that back

New pro Russian government will form and they will give China back Motor Sich. This war will be limited and short.

 

[khansaheeb]

Chinese L-15 Fighters Will Replace Iconic MiG-23s in Ethiopia's Air Force - Reports

The Ethiopian Air Force is reportedly set to become the second export client for China’s L-15 lightweight fighter jet, after the Defence Ministry reportedly placed an

militarywatchmagazine.com

Chinese L-15 Fighters Will Replace Iconic MiG-23s in Ethiopia's Air Force - Reports​

February-3rd-2022

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L-15 Fighter

The Ethiopian Air Force is reportedly set to become the second export client for China’s L-15 lightweight fighter jet, after the Defence Ministry reportedly placed an order for the aircraft in 2021. The aircraft are expected to replace the country’s ageing fleet of MiG-23 variable swept wing third generation fighters, which form one of its two squadrons alongside a larger unit of Russian-supplied Su-27 Flanker jets acquired in the 1990s. While plans for eventual replacement of the Su-27 have been widely speculated, with more modern variants of the Flanker design considered leading contenders, the older and considerably lighter MiG-23 has been out of production since 1985 with Ethiopia being one of just five remaining operators of the class alongside Angola, North Korea, Syria and Cuba. The L-15 is a derivative of China’s JL-10 trainer which first entered service in 2010, and is considered the most advanced of three modern trainer classes alongside the JL-8 and JL-9. The trainer's combat capabilities are far ahead of those of most other aircraft of its kind, with a supersonic Mach 1.4 speed and high manoeuvrability, and other than the Taiwanese Brave Eagle it is considered the world's most capable trainer in terms of combat performance. The L-15 fighter inherits the very low operational costs of the JL-10 trainer but combines them with an advanced combat capability and access to superior classes of weaponry. Other notable improvements include integration of a passive electronically scanned array (PESA) radar with a detection range of over 110km, and the ability to carry jammers for electronic attack missions.

L-15 Fighter

The L-15 is one of the lightest fighters in the world using twin engines, which although raising operational costs compared to other trainers has the benefits of providing engine redundancy for combat missions. The fighter’s flight performance is comparable to that of the American F-16 Fighting Falcon, albeit with a significantly lower speed and endurance, meaning it fails to match that of the MiG-23 which is the fastest and highest flying single engine fighter in the world. The L-15 is nevertheless superior to the fighters it is replacing in all other respects, being significantly simpler and cheaper to maintain and operate, in part due to much more modern construction materials, and having avionics and sensors several decades ahead of those of the MiG-23 optimising it for both precision strike and air to air missions. The aircraft will reportedly integrate PL-12 air to air missiles, which will make in the lightest combat aircraft in the world with access to active radar guided munitions with such ranges and provide a very comfortable performance advantage over the MiG-23 and most aircraft fielded by neighbouring states.

L-15 Fighter

The PL-12 will provide an advantage in engagement range over both the MiG-29 fighters of neighbouring Eritrea, and crucially over the F-16, Mirage 2000 and Rafale fighters of the Egyptian Air Force which rely on the obsolete AIM-7 and MICA missiles. Other than the Rafale, all the aforementioned fighters use mechanically scanned array radars which are considerably easier to jam and less efficient than the mechanically scanned radar on the L-15. Ongoing tensions between Egypt and Ethiopia over the latter’s Grand Renaissance Dam project, which some Egyptian sources claim could threaten its water supplies, make the L-15’s ability to counter such fighters particularly valuable. Ongoing internal conflict with the Tigray insurgency in Ethiopia, which is widely reported to be receiving Western backing, also makes the L-15’s precision strike capabilities highly valued.


L-15 Fighter






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[Tair-Lahoti]

Pakistani is very hasistant when comea to dual engin jets.
Pakistan won't buy a trainer having dual engines.