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UAE threatens to kick Canada out of covert military base Camp Mirage

It was during a secret meeting in Paris this September that Canada realized there was little room for a compromise that would enable its Afghanistan-bound troops to keep using a covert military base near Dubai.

The Canadian government is now preparing to relocate forces from the United Arab Emirates to somewhere such as Cyprus rather than give in to what it considers unreasonable demands from the host country.

The prospect of a time-consuming move to a potentially costlier and more distant staging location has Defence officials angry and frustrated. The Forces are already engrossed in complicated logistical preparations to withdraw from Afghanistan next year.

In a remarkably blunt diplomatic gambit, the UAE has been threatening to evict Canada from Camp Mirage if the Harper government doesn’t grant its two commercial airlines lucrative additional landing rights at airports in Toronto and other cities, sources familiar with the negotiations say.

Trouble has been brewing for months, and contingency plans were already in the works when officials from the Canadian government – including the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade – met with UAE officials in Paris last month.

Canada’s goal at the behind-the-scenes-talks was to explore the idea of a compromise, to see whether the UAE could be persuaded to put some water in its wine. International air negotiations are usually made public, but these discussions were not.

UAE and its state-owned carriers, including Emirates Airline, have been seeking dozens of new landing slots in Canada in return for letting the Canadian Forces stay in Camp Mirage. Air Canada and Transport Canada oppose the idea of linking air negotiations to geopolitics, though. The fear is that UAE is more interested in stealing lucrative international traffic from Air Canada to cities such as Frankfurt than simply flying more customers to its domestic airports.

Canada wasn’t prepared to give much ground under the circumstances. And neither were UAE officials, it turned out.

A federal government source said there was a “ huge gap” between the number of new landing spots the UAE wanted and the number Canada was willing to give.

The meeting confirmed for Canada that the UAE was not willing to consider alternatives to what they wanted, the source said.

“It ended with nothing.”

The Harper government had nothing to say officially on the future of Camp Mirage on Thursday, even though sources inside and outside Ottawa said the UAE has sent Canada official notice to vacate it within 30 days.

Officials say the Canadians ramped up plans for a move after the Paris meeting and are eyeing Cyprus as an alternative staging ground. Cargo pallets from Canada might be routed through a German base.

There’s still time for a compromise, but it’s not clear how much good will exists for one.

The UAE government vented its frustration in a statement on Thursday, warning that failure to reach a deal on more landing rights will hurt both countries, saying six flights a week for its carriers are insufficient.

“It is unfortunate that this process has been so protracted and frustrating,” UAE Ambassador Mohammed Abdullah Al-Ghafli said.

“The UAE entered negotiations in good faith on the understanding that a solution would be reached and that constructive ideas would be brought to the negotiating table. The fact that this has not come about will only negatively impact the populations and economies of both countries.”

Catherine Loubier, director of communications for Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon, would say only that the Canada-UAE relationship is strong and mutually beneficial.

“The government of Canada is fully capable of supporting our military commitments in Afghanistan, and we choose arrangements that are in the best interests of Canada.”

Both Dubai-based Emirates Airline and Abu Dhabi-based Etihad Airways want greater access to Canada.

In June, 2009, Emirates introduced the 489-seat Airbus A380 double-decker jet to its Toronto-Dubai route, saying the larger aircraft was needed to meet high demand.

Air Canada says that Emirates isn’t really interested in transporting customers between Dubai and Canada, accusing the foreign carrier of plotting to steal international traffic with Dubai as a stopover, not as a destination.

“Our position is that the UAE, under the current bilateral agreement, has enough capacity to serve the size of the local market,” Air Canada chief commercial officer Ben Smith said Thursday.

UAE threatens to kick Canada out of covert military base Camp Mirage - The Globe and Mail
 
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Emirates Airlines and Ethiad Airways pick up passengers from third countries, especially from South Asia, and then fly them to Canada. There are approximately 150,000 Pakistanis in Canada while PIA is only allowed 3 flights a week to Toronto. Why should UAE be allowed daily flights to Canada that will only bleed passengers from PIA ?

CBC News - Money - Emirates pushing Canada on air travel

Emirates pushing Canada on air travel

The United Arab Emirates is warning that Canada's refusal to grant more landing rights to Emirates air carriers will "undoubtedly" affect the relations between the two countries.

The warning, issued Sunday by the U.A.E. ambassador to Canada, Mohammed Abdullah Al-Ghafli, comes amid media reports that the Emirates government has threatened to retaliate over the failed aviation deal by denying Canada's military access to an air base near Dubai.

The Canadian government had little to say on the matter. A Foreign Affairs spokeswoman said in an email that the government does not comment on operational matters concerning the deployment of the Canadian Forces abroad.

But the government did indicate Canada is "fully capable of supporting its military commitments in Afghanistan."

The U.A.E. diplomat said his country was disappointed that, despite intensive negotiations over the last five years, the two countries have been unable to reach an agreement to increase the number of flights.

"The U.A.E. entered negotiations in good faith on the understanding that a solution would be reached and that constructive ideas would be brought to the negotiating table. The fact that this has not come about undoubtedly affects the bilateral relationship," Al-Ghafli said in a statement issued by the U.A.E. Embassy.
6 flights 'not enough'

A 1999 agreement allows Emirates Airlines and Ethiad Airways to fly up to six times a week into Canada. But the U.A.E. government says that with 27,000 Canadians living in that country, and a significant trade relationship — the U.A.E. is Canada's largest trade partner in the Middle East and North Africa — six flights per week are not enough.

Air Canada has objected to increased service to Canadian destinations. It says that in certain areas, such as Dubai, there is very little originating traffic that comes to Canada.

The airline claims that carriers like Emirates Airlines pick up Canadians and take them to third countries with a stopover in Dubai, and there is no reciprocal benefit to Canadian carriers.

Emirates Airlines says it's unfortunate that the Canadian government doesn't see the need for more services from the carrier.

"We are disappointed by this response and are working hard to convince our many friends in Ottawa on the case for more business between Dubai and Canada via a progressive increase in services," the airline says in a statement posted on its website.

The airline is asking its passengers to push the issue with the Canadian government by writing to Transport Minister Chuck Strahl.

Meanwhile, the Consumers' Association of Canada says Canadian passengers are caught up in a diplomatic fuss that is eating away at their rights. The association says allowing carriers from the Emirates to expand in Canadian markets would be "very beneficial" to consumers.
Protect consumers, CAC head says

"We've got a situation where somehow diplomatic matters for Canada are being linked to the interest of Canada's major airline," said association president Bruce Cran.

"It doesn't make sense at all. We're wondering when someone will step in and protect consumers' rights here."

Cran said the argument that Air Canada would lose a significant number of passengers if the two U.A.E. airlines were allowed into the country more frequently is moot.

"We're talking about a destination to which Air Canada does not even fly (directly)," said Cran, adding that there was no reason for Canadian consumers to be forced to give preference to Air Canada's Star Alliance carriers, which operate competing routes through Europe.

"Consumers are getting the raw end of the stick all the way along here," he said.
BlackBerry dispute settled

It is the second time in recent months that Canada and the U.A.E. have engaged in diplomatic wrestling over business disputes.

Last August, the Emirates government threatened to shut down email, messaging and web browsing on the BlackBerry devices, after Waterloo, Ont.-based Research In Motion refused to allow access to encrypted information sent by users.

BlackBerry data is automatically shipped to the company's computers abroad, and it is difficult for local authorities to monitor illegal activity or abuse.

Both the Canadian and U.S. governments tried to help broker a compromise between the U.A.E. and RIM, worried that the ban could affect international trade and diplomacy. Half a million local users and travellers with foreign BlackBerrys would have been affected.

The Emirates government backed off the threat last Friday, just days before the ban was set to take effect. The Gulf country's telecommunications regulator confirmed that a deal had been reached with RIM that brought the devices into compliance with local laws.

It wasn't clear what concessions, if any, the Canadian device maker made to avert the ban.
© The Canadian Press, 2010
 
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Atleast that's better than we can do!
at the situation though

Canada asked Pakistan for a temporary logistics base for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan but Pakistan refused. While UAE provided Mirage base near Dubai. Pakistan has good reasons to ask for more landing rights in Canada than UAE does. Nevertheless blackmailing or reciprocity does work sometimes.
 
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Canada asked Pakistan for a temporary logistics base for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan but Pakistan refused. While UAE provided Mirage base near Dubai. Pakistan has good reasons to ask for more landing rights in Canada than UAE does. Nevertheless blackmailing or reciprocity does work sometimes.

Nah, I mean Pak-US.

Well, good to see that Pakistan can put its foot down too!

:pakistan:
 
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Nevertheless blackmailing or reciprocity does work sometimes.

I really wish that we had applied this technique on America.We Could have gained quite a lot.
 
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UAE orders Canada out of its base, airspace
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Mon Oct 11, 11:35 PM
By Jonathan Montpetit, The Canadian Press
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - Canada's top soldier and two cabinet ministers were up in the air Monday, their flight plans disrupted after the United Arab Emirates denied them landing in retaliation for a failed business deal.


Defence Minister Peter MacKay, Veterans Affairs Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn and Chief of the Defence Staff, Gen. Walt Natynczyk were flying home from a three-day visit in Afghanistan when the wealthy Gulf nation closed its air space to their plane, a military source in Ottawa confirmed to The Canadian Press.


The plane had to detour and it was unclear where it was headed afterwards. Government officials were not willing to confirm the location of the three senior officials, but one media report suggested a city in Europe.


Just hours earlier in Kandahar, MacKay indicated that Canada was being forced to vacate a military base in the UAE following the failure of negotiations to expand aviation links between the two countries.


"There have been discussion going on between the minister of foreign affairs and his counterpart. These discussions have been going on for some time," MacKay said a short time before he boarded the plane.


"And at this point, we will abide by the wishes of the Emirates, and... we will be leaving the base."


The UAE has been seeking more landing rights in Canada for its fast-growing state carriers, Emirates and Etihad. Amid strenuous objections by Air Canada, the talks stalled recently.


The UAE has blamed Canada for the failure of the five-year-long negotiations.


UAE's ambassador to Ottawa, Mohammed Abdullah Al-Ghafli, had warned Sunday that the failure to clinch a deal will "undoubtedly affect" bilateral relations.


By forcing Canada to vacate its base in Dubai, a once-secret installation known as Camp Mirage, the UAE will disrupt the Canadian military's principal supply line to Afghanistan.


Camp Mirage is Canada's only logistical hub in the Middle East. The only other regular re-supply route for the military in Kandahar is an overland crossing from Pakistan, which to date has been reserved for low-priority items.


Convoys travelling from Afghanistan's neighbour usually hire private security to fend off Taliban attacks.


The impending closure of Camp Mirage has left officials scrambling for an alternative. It was to play a major role in the withdrawal of Canadian troops from Afghanistan following the July 2011 end to the combat mission.


"We'll always act in Canada's best interests and one thing I know about the Canadian forces, they're very adaptable," MacKay said.


"They have alternative plans, they have contingency plans. With that in mind we're going through the various options that are before us right now.


"And we'll continue to do our mission here in Afghanistan... and we'll find other ways to support this mission through other hubs in the region," he added.


Natynczyk acknowledged the military was preparing to cope with upcoming changes to the Dubai base.

"We always have contingency plans in place," he said after serving Thanksgiving dinner to troops at a Canadian operating base in the Panjwaii district of Kandahar.

Canada had a years-old right to operate out of Camp Mirage under an agreement that expired in June. But each party was also allowed to give a one-month notice to end the agreement.

Media reports have suggested the UAE invoked that right last week.

At the heart of the dispute are demands by the two UAE airlines to increase the frequency and destinations of their flights to Canada. They currently operate a total of six flights a week to Toronto from Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

Air Canada has argued against increasing the flights, saying there is very little passenger traffic originating from the UAE and the two airlines are merely taking Canadians to third countries with stopovers in Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

But Ambassador Al-Ghafli said with 27,000 Canadians living in the UAE, six flights per week do not service the economic needs of both countries.

"It is unfortunate that this process has been so protracted and frustrating," he said.

"The UAE entered negotiations in good faith on the understanding that a solution would be reached and that constructive ideas would be brought to the negotiating table. The fact that this has not come about undoubtedly affects the bilateral relationship."

Prior to being denied the right to land — which will likely be considered a major diplomatic snub — MacKay attempted to strike a conciliatory note to the UAE.

"We are very grateful for what the United Arab Emirates have allowed us to do within their country," MacKay said.

"They have been very supportive of the Canadian mission, supportive of the mission writ large, and for that we thank them."

The UAE is Canada's largest trade partner in the Middle East and North Africa with bilateral trade of over $1.5 billion.

_ With files from Murray Brewster in Ottawa.

Canada 'capable of supporting' Afghan mission - Yahoo! Canada News
 
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Hmm... well, isn't blackmail a game everyone plays in the world of politics?

No, not unacceptable for politicians here and certainly not acceptable for places that want to called a nation state.
 
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No, not unacceptable for politicians here and certainly not acceptable for places that want to called a nation state.

Well, then you could say that it is not acceptable to have a foreign military base in your country.

I think UAE is seeing it as a token of political power over Canada. I think it's normal politics... trample or be trampled on.

But anyhow, each to his own.
 
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come on man whats wrong if UAE is blackmailing Canadians.

I would say they are far more better than us demanding compensation for their land unlike us who have lost everything but still haven't received a penny.
 
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