UAE planned to invade Qatar with Blackwater-linked mercenaries: Report

[HannibalBarca]

Spanish report: http://www.abc.es/internacional/abc...-para-invadir-qatar-201710080136_noticia.html

English:

Qatar's former deputy prime minister accused the United Arab Emirates of plotting to invade Doha with an army of mercenaries, according to a report.

Abdullah bin Hamad al-Attiyah levelled the charges on Wednesday in a report published by Spanish daily ABC.

The UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Egypt imposed a blockade and economic sanctions on Qatar in June, accusing it of supporting "extremism" and being too close to Iran, charges Doha has denied.

Attiyah said that the UAE hired a "Blackwater-linked" private security contractor to train thousands of mercenaries to invade Qatar with the aim of overthrowing the emir and replacing him with a ruler subservient to the Saudi-led bloc that is boycotting the gas-rich state, the New Arab website reported.

Attiyah said the plan, which was prepared ahead of the diplomatic spat, was never carried out because US President Donald Trump failed to green-light the assault, the NewArab said.

An unidentified official source told the daily that the soldiers for hire were trained at an Emirati military base in Liwa in the west of the country by Academi, a US security service company formerly known as Blackwater.

Blackwater military contractors killed 17 unarmed Iraqi civilians and wounded 20 in a notorious 2007 massacre in Baghdad that prompted the firm to change its name.

"We estimate that Blackwater trained about 15,000 employees, most of them Colombian and South American," the source told the New Arab.

The New York Times reported as far back as 2011 that Colombians were entering the UAE posing as construction workers to become part of a secret mercenary army being built by Blackwater founder Erik Prince with more than $500m in financing from the oil-rich sheikdom.

The Colombians, along with South African and other foreign troops, were being trained by retired American soldiers and veterans of German and British special operations units and the French Foreign Legion, former employees and American officials told the New York Times.

According to a recent email purportedly sent by the Emirati ambassador to the US, Yousef al-Otaiba, Saudi Arabia came close to "conquering" Qatar before the start of the blockade.

People close to Trump told Bloomberg in September that the Saudi-led bloc considered taking military action against Qatar at the start of the crisis, before the US president urged for calm.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/u...ackwater-linked-mercenaries-report-1742295879

PS: Coincidence or pure luck... But those Qatari F-15 sale HAPPENED just at the moment where US said stop to Saudi and UAE...

PS2: UAE relation with Blackwater is quite interesting and it's not the first time, afterall they are extensively used in Libya/Mali/Yemen by UAE and his Boss has a free spot in Abu dhabi... with full diplomatic protection... Someone is learning fast from his teacher...Hope they learn ( and get rdy) for the consequences too... since you can't play with fire if you don't know how to stop it...

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

should have done it. shit could have been litter than Call of Duty Advanced Warfare

 

[Yaseen1]

iran and turkey will defend Qatar

 

[BABA AGHORI]

iran and turkey will defend Qatar

Will Pakistan take sides ?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Tiny Qatar should be a part of KSA like that territory of the Arabian Peninsula (a small peninsula that is part of the world's largest peninsula - Arabian Peninsula) has been for millennia since the emergence of ancient civilians such as Dilmun etc. 6000 years ago in Eastern Arabia.

Just throughout the past 1400 years (Islamic era) the territory that makes up Qatar today has been a part of caliphates, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms founded and ruled by people from modern-day KSA or based in modern-day KSA. Even the House of Saud ruled what is today Qatar not long ago. Before the Al-Thani's emerged as rulers of Qatar.

Let's forget history for a second. 95% of all the 320.000 or so native Qataris are also originally from KSA. Including the ruling Al-Thani family.

Anyway once the gas runs out (if not before) history will repeat itself and the Qataris will join their motherland once again. The GCC/Arabia will unite just like much of the Arab world and not the other way around. This is the only way forward. This would also put an end to fake nation state nationalism and restore historical legitimacy, focus on ethnicity (Arab and Semitic) and ancestry, ancient and more recent history, common culture, same language and religion etc.

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As for the topic. I can't believe that people are this naive and ignorant to believe whatever Qatari sources are saying. They have been posting one lie after the next ever since this "crisis" began. The most hilarious lie was KSA boycotting Qatari pilgrims but when the same Qatari pilgrims returned from KSA praising KSA, this lie was quickly forgotten. Countless of others.

Let's all use our brains for once. Who in the region let alone outside of it (US, Russia and China) would be interested in a already insanely rich country (fossil fuels and minerals) like KSA to be even richer after conquering Qatar? Such a move alone would turn KSA into a country with the second biggest proven natural gas reserves in the world.

In fact I doubt that other GCC states would be interested in such a thing as they might very well be next. I am talking about rulers here because according to all polls conducted on this topic, the GCC populations (citizens) have long wished to see a federal state emerge - thus there is a big support for unity and the establishment of a federal state which the GCC more or less is already on many fronts.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Tiny Qatar should be a part of KSA like that territory of the Arabian Peninsula (a small peninsula that is part of the world's largest peninsula - Arabian Peninsula) has been for millennia since the emergence of ancient civilians such as Dilmun etc. 6000 years ago in Eastern Arabia.

Just throughout the past 1400 years (Islamic era) the territory that makes up Qatar today has been a part of caliphates, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms founded and ruled by people from modern-day KSA or based in modern-day KSA. Even the House of Saud ruled what is today Qatar not long ago. Before the Al-Thani's emerged as rulers of Qatar.

Let's forget history for a second. 95% of all the 320.000 or so native Qataris are also originally from KSA. Including the ruling Al-Thani family.

Anyway once the gas runs out (if not before) history will repeat itself and the Qataris will join their motherland once again. The GCC/Arabia will unite just like much of the Arab world and not the other way around. This is the only way forward. This would also put an end to fake nation state nationalism and restore historical legitimacy, focus on ethnicity (Arab and Semitic) and ancestry, ancient and more recent history, common culture, same language and religion etc.

-------------------------------------

As for the topic. I can't believe that people are this naive and ignorant to believe whatever Qatari sources are saying. They have been posting one lie after the next ever since this "crisis" began. The most hilarious lie was KSA boycotting Qatari pilgrims but when the same Qatari pilgrims returned from KSA praising KSA, this lie was quickly forgotten. Countless of others.

Let's all use our brains for once. Who in the region let alone outside of it (US, Russia and China) would be interested in a already insanely rich country (fossil fuels and minerals) like KSA to be even richer after conquering Qatar? Such a move alone would turn KSA into a country with the second biggest proven natural gas reserves.

the report is spanish... ME just made an article in english on it... as for "invading" with black water..; it's not the first time that they are used for it by UAe.
As for Qatar being part of KSA , well KSA himself didn't exist a century ago. KSA is not the rightful ruler of the region, it just happen to be the biggest/richest. that's it. So if we have to play by the book of conqueror..; UAE has more right to rule the region, therefore everyone around SHOULD be under UAE. since they are the one arboring conquest ans put the mean in it.

But ofc being one united under one banner is better for the long term, but thing don't happen as we like it.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

the report is spanish... ME just made an article in english on it... as for "invading" with black water..; it's not the first time that they are used for it by UAe.
As for Qatar being part of KSA , well KSA himself didn't exist a century ago. KSA is not the rightful ruler of the region, it just happen to be the biggest. that's it. So if we have to play by the book of conqueror..; UAE has more right to rule the region, therefore everyone aorund SHOULD be under UAE. since they are the one arboring conquest.

But ofc being one united under any banner is better for the long term, but thing don't happen as we like it.

Using Qatari sources. I wonder how much the Qatari regime paid ABC? They have been caught paying journalists to post their propaganda in French media after their "takeover" of Paris a few years ago.

KSA (Saudi Arabia) is the successor state of all those ancient civilizations, empires, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms because 1) they were all founded by our ancestors, 2) they were founded by people native to what is modern-day KSA and ruled by them, 3) they emerged in our ancient lands.

A more simple conclusion that anyone can see by just looking a map, KSA makes up 75% of Arabia. That is legitimacy alone.

That does not change the fact that 95% of all Qataris are from Saudi Arabia originally, including the ruling Al-Thani family. Or that there was no state called Qatar just 200 years ago. It is a fake nation state construct. KSA on the other hand was a unification of several ancient Arabian historical regions (Hijaz, Najd, Eastern Arabia, Northern Arabia etc.).

Qatar on the other hand? Well it is a small peninsula that is part of the historical region called Eastern Arabia. With a tiny population mainly from Najd.

That will happen. The formation of the GCC almost 40 years ago was already a huge step and that was taken only as a decision by ruling autocratic dynasties who otherwise almost always compete against each other whether in Arabia or elsewhere throughout all of history. Now if the people had a say (which they will soon), a federal state would be created as proven by existing polls on this topic.

BTW you did not answer who has any interest in seeing KSA becoming an even bigger and richer country? Maybe that is the most important question to answer. Do you remember what happened with Saddam when he invaded Kuwait? Supposedly after receiving a green light from the same West that later attacked him. I also forgot to mention that Qatar is under the protection of the US ever since they welcomed the Americans to Al-Udeid in the 1990's. This was a deliberate step in order to protect the Al-Thani regime from internal and external threats.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Using Qatari sources. I wonder how much the Qatari regime paid ABC? They have been caught paying journalists to post their propaganda in French media after their "takeover" of Paris a few years ago.

KSA (Saudi Arabia) is the successor state of all those ancient civilizations, empires, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms because 1) they were all founded by our ancestors, 2) they were founded by people native to what is modern-day KSA and ruled by them, 3) they emerged in our ancient lands.

A more simple conclusion that anyone can see by just looking a map, KSA makes up 80% of Arabia. That is legitimacy alone.

That does not change the fact that 95% of all Qataris are from Saudi Arabia originally, including the ruling Al-Thani family. Or that there was no state called Qatar just 200 years ago. It is a fake nation state construct. KSA on the other hand was a unification of several ancient Arabian historical regions (Hijaz, Najd, Eastern Arabia, Northern Arabia etc.).

Qatar on the other hand? Well it is a small peninsula that is part of the historical region called Eastern Arabia. With a population mainly from Najd.

They will happen. GCC is already a huge step and that was taken only as a decision by ruling dynasties who otherwise almost always compete against each other whether in Arabia or elsewhere throughout all of history. Now if the people had a say (which they will soon), a federal state would be created as proven by existing polls on this topic.

BTW you did not answer who has any interest in seeing KSA becoming an even bigger and richer country. I also forgot to mention that Qatar is under the protection of the US ever since they welcomed the Americans to Al-Udeid.

To be called a successor you have to live upon it, be legitimate. as for TOday none in the region is. Whatever by their policy/ culture/society. it's "downloading"

Being big on the map is no legitimacy, ( here some exemple: ROme/Carthage/Seljuks/ Mongols etc...) the Arabian peninsula borders is the conquequences of the fall of the ottoman empire and the partition by some EU countries... nothing to do with the "people", the rulers in the other hand is another story.
Even being from that part of the region IS no legitimacy to say" it's mine", only the ONE who rly want to rule will write history to make himself "legitimate" it was like that with every conquest aorund the globe throughout history... Romans weren't romans, like carthagians weren't africans etc...

As for KSA ruling everything, it means that UAE too is not legitimate... therefore as for today they think that taking Qatar is an evil need... but they are just giving an escuse to the future big boss of the region to do the same with him, and if he knows it and still act like that then... this little boy may think to be the Big boss and not KSA.

So in the END, the legitimate one is the one who will play by the book and sacrifice whatever it needs to be on top ( whatever treason or act it may be), so ask yourself who is capable of doing so. who is capable to play with the evil to succeed?

as for the US protection, let's be honest shall we? the entire region is...

 

[Saif al-Arab]

To be called a successor you have to live upon it, be legitimate. as for TOday none in the region is. Whatever by their policy/ culture/society. it's "downloading"

Being big on the map is no legitimacy, ( here some exemple: ROme/Carthage/Seljuks/ Mongols etc...) the Arabian peninsula borders is the conquequences of the fall of the ottoman empire and the partition by some EU countries... nothing to do with the "people", the rulers in the other hand is another story.
Even being from that part of the region IS no legitimacy to say" it's mine", only the ONE who rly want to rule will write history to make himself "legitimate" it was like that with every conquest aorund the globe throughout history... Romans weren't romans, like carthagians weren't africans etc...

As for KSA ruling everything, it means that UAE too is not legitimate... therefore as for today they think that taking Qatar is an evil need... but they are just giving an escuse to the future big boss of the region to do the same with him, and if he knows it and still act like that then... this little boy may think to be the Big boss and not KSA.

So in the END, the legitimate one is the one who will play by the book and sacrifice whatever it needs to be on top ( whatever treason or act it may be), so ask yourself who is capable of doing so. who is capable to play with the evil to succeed?

as for the US protection, let's be honest shall we? the entire region is...

Are you serious my friend?

I will try again.

KSA (Saudi Arabia) is the successor state of all those ancient civilizations, empires, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms because 1) they were all founded by our ancestors, 2) they were founded by people native to what is modern-day KSA and ruled by them, 3) they emerged in our ancient lands.

So we are in our full right to claim being a successor as we have the historical, ancestral and geographical legitimacy. It's actually very simple.

History did not begin with the Ottomans who only ruled the Caliphate for 400 years. For 1000 years prior, from the beginning until 1517 (see my beautiful signature), the Islamic Caliphate and most of the Islamic world was ruled by Arab Caliphates (all of Hijazi origins) such as the Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid. History did not being in 1517, I am afraid. And even before the Islamic era (past 1400 years) our lands were home to some of the earliest recorded civilizations on this planet.
Besides the Ottomans had almost no presence in Arabia (as you probably know already) and the borders were not drawn by Westerners but drawn by blood. Read about the unification of KSA - a country that has never been a Western colony.

You have obviously not understood my initial posts. I am not calling for KSA to invade any fellow GCC state. I am simply stating that many of those small states should not exist if history was the guideline. I also state that the people of the region (Arabia) want to see a federal state. Thus unity.

I also stated that the way forward (which will happen) in the Arab world is to see regional states unite. For instance I predict that the Arab Maghreb will grow closer to each other once the regimes in the region are either toppled or are reformed simply because it makes the most economic, military, demographic etc. sense and because most people would look at this idea as a good thing. Why? Because they share more in common than the opposite and because it would make them stronger and more independent.

Sure, the US is the most influential party from Senegal in the west to Indonesia in the east but that does not answer my question. You know it as well as I do, that it would not be in the interests of anyone to see an even bigger and richer (in terms of fossil fuels and minerals) KSA. Not to say, as I already wrote, that I doubt that UAE and other smaller GCC states would look lightly at Qatar being incorporated into KSA. However I have to state a fact here and that is, that KSA is already dominating the GCC and always will be due to demographics, history, economy, military etc. For instance Bahrain is basically another province of KSA.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Are you serious my friend?

I will try again.

KSA (Saudi Arabia) is the successor state of all those ancient civilizations, empires, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms because 1) they were all founded by our ancestors, 2) they were founded by people native to what is modern-day KSA and ruled by them, 3) they emerged in our ancient lands.

So we are in our full right to claim being a successor as we have the historical, ancestral and geographical legitimacy. It's actually very simple.

History did not begin with the Ottomans who only ruled the Caliphate for 400 years. For 1000 years prior, from the beginning until 1517 (see my beautiful signature), the Islamic Caliphate and most of the Islamic world was ruled by Arab Caliphates (all of Hijazi origins) such as the Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid. History did not being in 1517, I am afraid. And even before the Islamic era (past 1400 years) our lands were home to some of the earliest recorded civilizations on this planet.
Besides the Ottomans had almost no presence in Arabia (as you probably know already) and the borders were not drawn by Westerners but drawn by blood. Read about the unification of KSA - a country that has never been a Western colony.

You have obviously not understood my initial posts. I am not calling for KSA to invade any fellow GCC state. I am simply stating that many of those small states should not exist if history was the guideline. I also state that the people of the region (Arabia) want to see a federal state. Thus unity.

I also stated that the way forward (which will happen) in the Arab world is to see regional states unite. For instance I predict that the Arab Maghreb will grow closer to each other once the regimes in the region are either toppled or are reformed simply because it makes the most economic, military, demographic etc. sense and because most people would look at this idea as a good thing. Why? Because they share more in common than the opposite and because it would make them stronger and more independent.

Sure, the US is the most influential party from Senegal in the west to Indonesia in the east but that does not answer my question. You know it as well as I do, that it would not be in the interests of anyone to see an even bigger and richer (in terms of fossil fuels and minerals) KSA. Not to say, as I already wrote, that I doubt that UAE and other smaller GCC states would look lightly at Qatar being incorporated into KSA. However I have to state a fact here and that is, that KSA is already dominating the GCC and always will be due to demographics, history, economy, military etc. For instance Bahrain is basically another province of KSA.

No worry I did, but yet my answer is still on, being the son/daughter Does not make you a successor. and History is our witness. AS for KSA borders, it's inside border, i Agree. But it's external ones IS from Ottoman/EU relics...

AS for the federal ideology, it does work IF and Only if the Master Ruler is keen to not always jump into internal affairs. A good exemple is the Ottoman ruling ideology, and you have the exact opposite with the arab empire, where you get an assimilation+ aculturation.

As for the magrheb, the unity will only come by one taking everything, to much pride in each part to "let yourself under another" it has been like that for centuries, even under the carthagian empire. The only Question is who will move first...

But as I said, it has nothing to do with KSa or whatever, it's just that legitimacy come with actions and results, who want it the most and willing to sacrifice for it. ANd it's even more problematic in the arabian region is wage war against each others since they are almost liek a big family with blood ties with almost each others. so the one to use Blood as a weapon will pay it in the long run, since injustice is hard to forget and even more when it's inside families... whatever if one or the other is right or not. That's why UAE is playing a dangerous game, that could backfire at them... same for KSA, if the young prince can't stop being influenced by some UAE rulers... today friends tomorrow foes...

 

[Saif al-Arab]

No worry I did, but yet my answer is still on, being the son/daughter Does not make you a successor. and History is our witness. AS for KSA borders, it's inside border, i Agree. But it's external ones IS from Ottoman/EU relics...

AS for the federal ideology, it does work IF and Only if the Master Ruler is keen to not always jump into internal affairs. A good exemple is the Ottoman ruling ideology, and you have the exact opposite with the arab empire, where you get an assimilation+ aculturation.

As for the magrheb, the unity will only come by one taking everything, to much pride in each part to "let yourself under another" it has been like that for centuries, even under the carthagian empire. The only Question is who will move first...

But as I said, it has nothing to do with KSa or whatever, it's just that legitimacy come with actions and results, who want it the most and willing to sacrifice for it. ANd it's even more problematic in the arabian region is wage war against each others since they are almost liek a big family with blood ties with almost each others. so the one to use Blood as a weapon will pay it in the long run, since injustice is hard to forget and even more when it's inside families... whatever if one or the other is right or not. That's why UAE is playing a dangerous game, that could backfire at them... today friends tomorrow foes...

I strongly disagree and history, ancestry and geography is on my side. Using your logic no modern-day nation state can claim being a successor of anything. That's not the reality however and that's not how people feel.

Ancient Arab and Semitic civilizations (the first civilizations in the world in fact) based in Arabia/Near East that were founded by our ancestors (as proven by DNA) whose homeland was mostly Arabia or the immediate region (all ancient Arab and Semitic land), is not just something you can wash away. Or the fact that most of us (people in Arabia and immediate Arab regions) can trace our ancestry back to even pre-Islamic times and many of us (citizens) are direct descendants of those people who ruled those caliphates, empires, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms. We still use our ancient family names. That's a legitimacy that most other people can only dream about.

So with all due respect, while I consider you a fellow Arab and brother in religion, I suggest you to read up on history. If you use your logic, modern-day Tunisia and Tunisians have no claim on Carthage despite it being proven that Carthaginians (previously Phoenicians) were Semitic settlers from the Near East (they themselves claimed to be from Arabia originally like most Semitic people were) settled in Tunisia and founded Carthage and that a degree of native Tunisians must descend from them at least partially. Similarly with Arabs and other settlers. You would object to that of course, I assume.

That is your opinion. I believe that logic will prevail and not strength alone. Just like it prevailed in the GCC which has turned into the most comprehensive and vibrant regional bloc in the Muslim world despite the recent "crisis" that I am sure will be solved eventually.

This is not about waging any wars. This is about people's will being meet. You say it yourself. We are like one big family. That is true. And like in every family there are conflicts (sometime those conflicts can be more severe than with foreigners or friends) but whenever the family is united it is always stronger and eventually most families stick together even after disagreements. The same thing will happen here not because the House of Saud or Al-Thanis want to but because the people want to. Even when shiit hit the fan back in late May/early June, the average Saudi Arabian and Qatari called for coexistence and both highlighted that we are brothers and sisters. That was a main theme seen time and time again despite blind regime supporters and occasionally ultranationalists on both sides. Although I think that like 2/10 of all Qataris on social media were actually Al-Thani members. That says something about how tiny the native Qatari population really is.

As for this report (topic of discussion) as I wrote initially, I see it like nothing else than propaganda. Extremely unlikely move for the previous reasons that I stated. Impossible. In fact KSA/UAE/Egypt/Bahrain etc. openly stated that there was never talk about an invasion at any point and moreover there were no reports of any military being assembled next to the Qatari border. Let's not forget that the Yemeni civil war is still ongoing. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

It all fits into the narrative of some media (Al-Jazeera says hello) that "tiny and innocent Qatar is being harassed by its big brother KSA" etc. nonsense. This big brother also harasses imaginary Qatari pilgrims in Makkah and Madinah of all places and is planning to invade Qatar. Very convenient.

 

[The Eagle]

It is advised to not to insult any nationality as well as to keep sectarian flaming/insults away.

 

[Bubblegum Crisis]

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Ancient Arab and Semitic civilizations (the first civilizations in the world in fact) based in Arabia/Near East that were founded by our ancestors (as proven by DNA) whose homeland was mostly Arabia or the immediate region (all ancient Arab and Semitic land), is not just something you can wash away. Or the fact that most of us (people in Arabia and immediate Arab regions) can trace our ancestry back to even pre-Islamic times and many of us (citizens) are direct descendants of those people who ruled those caliphates, empires, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms. We still use our ancient family names. That's a legitimacy that most other people can only dream about.

That is your opinion. I believe that logic will prevail and not strength alone. Just like it prevailed in the GCC which has turned into the most comprehensive and vibrant regional bloc in the Muslim world despite the recent "crisis" that I am sure will be solved eventually.

This is not about waging any wars. This is about people's will being meet. You say it yourself. We are like one big family. That is true. And like in every family there are conflicts (sometime those conflicts can be more severe than with foreigners or friends) but whenever the family is united it is always stronger and eventually most families stick together even after disagreements. The same thing will happen here not because the House of Saud or Al-Thanis want to but because the people want to. Even when shiit hit the fan back in late May/early June, the average Saudi Arabian and Qatari called for coexistence and both highlighted that we are brothers and sisters. That was a main theme seen time and time again despite blind regime supporters and occasionally ultranationalists on both sides. Although I think that like 2/10 of all Qataris on social media were actually Al-Thani members. That says something about how tiny the native Qatari population really is.

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I love this part... ^^




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[Thəorətic Muslim]

That does not change the fact that 95% of all Qataris are from Saudi Arabia originally, including the ruling Al-Thani family.

The English Royal Family has Germanic roots.

A long long time ago some prince of Catalonia married the princess of Spain.

And Mecca and Medinah were safeguarded by the Ottoman Empire.

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Having the House of Saud or the Emiritis conquer Qatar is asking for more confrontation with Iran over the territorial disputes the conqueror wants to inherit

 

[HannibalBarca]

I strongly disagree and history, ancestry and geography is on my side. Using your logic no modern-day nation state can claim being a successor of anything. That's not the reality however and that's not how people feel.

Ancient Arab and Semitic civilizations (the first civilizations in the world in fact) based in Arabia/Near East that were founded by our ancestors (as proven by DNA) whose homeland was mostly Arabia or the immediate region (all ancient Arab and Semitic land), is not just something you can wash away. Or the fact that most of us (people in Arabia and immediate Arab regions) can trace our ancestry back to even pre-Islamic times and many of us (citizens) are direct descendants of those people who ruled those caliphates, empires, empires, kingdoms, sultanates, emirates and sheikdoms. We still use our ancient family names. That's a legitimacy that most other people can only dream about.

So with all due respect, while I consider you a fellow Arab and brother in religion, I suggest you to read up on history. If you use your logic, modern-day Tunisia and Tunisians have no claim on Carthage despite it being proven that Carthaginians (previously Phoenicians) were Semitic settlers from the Near East (they themselves claimed to be from Arabia originally like most Semitic people were) settled in Tunisia and founded Carthage and that a degree of native Tunisians must descend from them at least partially. Similarly with Arabs and other settlers. You would object to that of course, I assume.

That is your opinion. I believe that logic will prevail and not strength alone. Just like it prevailed in the GCC which has turned into the most comprehensive and vibrant regional bloc in the Muslim world despite the recent "crisis" that I am sure will be solved eventually.

This is not about waging any wars. This is about people's will being meet. You say it yourself. We are like one big family. That is true. And like in every family there are conflicts (sometime those conflicts can be more severe than with foreigners or friends) but whenever the family is united it is always stronger and eventually most families stick together even after disagreements. The same thing will happen here not because the House of Saud or Al-Thanis want to but because the people want to. Even when shiit hit the fan back in late May/early June, the average Saudi Arabian and Qatari called for coexistence and both highlighted that we are brothers and sisters. That was a main theme seen time and time again despite blind regime supporters and occasionally ultranationalists on both sides. Although I think that like 2/10 of all Qataris on social media were actually Al-Thani members. That says something about how tiny the native Qatari population really is.

As for this report (topic of discussion) as I wrote initially, I see it like nothing else than propaganda. Extremely unlikely move for the previous reasons that I stated. Impossible. In fact KSA/UAE/Egypt/Bahrain etc. openly stated that there was never talk about an invasion at any point and moreover there were no reports of any military being assembled next to the Qatari border. Let's not forget that the Yemeni civil war is still ongoing. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

It all fits into the narrative of some media (Al-Jazeera says hello) that "tiny and innocent Qatar is being harassed by its big brother KSA" etc. nonsense. This big brother also harasses imaginary Qatari pilgrims in Makkah and Madinah of all places and is planning to invade Qatar. Very convenient.

Tunisia has no claim on Carthage... till this day they did nothing to legitimate themselfs as successors.
And Yes no modern state has a claim on their ancestors, none. The one became legitimate is by their ACTIONS related to their heritage, whoever they are.

That's why DNA/Blood has nothing to do in it, since we all are Homo sapiens at the End, so we as whole COULD be successors of somthing made by Humans. And that even in Islam...( no ethnicity is a rightfull successor or ruler related to Islam, in opposite per exemple to judaism etc...)

So yes I have the same legitimacy on today Arabia than you or anyone else around. Like you have the same legitimacy on Maghreb and etc... it's just how you are willing to be a part of it by Actions related to that heritage.

It has been like that for centuries, per exemple during the Arab conquest of N-Africa... till this day Arab are one of the legitimate ppl, like the amazig or berbers etc... even thou' they are not natives..;but they imposed a legacy and therefore earn their legitimacy.

That's why most of Countries in the region has not legacy, therefore no legitimacy. it could happen, mostly will, but as for today, none