UAE ISRAEL Peace Agreement

[Alithemoor1]

LOL WHAT A HYPOCRITE

What do you want to lecture us where are you from? Planet ignorance? Tell me my ultra well educated laughing friend.. If you know that turkey has good relations with Israel than how can it be that you with such a funny Mentality have no clue about the why...

Or you have a clue but it does not fit your nose?....

Tell me if Israel is such good to us Turks and helped us building defence sector or selling us products or that we sell them water or have good jobs in the constructing industry and how you with your own fingers wrote we did not have a war or fight with them

Why should we fight them? Because what? Can you hyper intelligent funny guy tell me the reason you assume us to fight with them? Or be mad about them? After all the good? Because we have now a little dispute because we backed some balis? This is the whole reason why we have bad relations at all

Israel did not take a single inch or the weight of a mosquitoes wing from our lands

But I see some arabs had been beaten down because Israel did the same arabs did to Turks.. So if you can calculate 1+1 than do us a little favor and keep going on and see the whole picture otherwise it sounds idiotic.. We are no arabs we have no land dispute with Israel

What the hell are you even talking about?
Tell me when has Turkey waged war against Israel? lol Instead there is cooperation at every level.


Israelis flock to Turkey in record numbers


https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-israelis-flock-to-turkey-in-record-numbers-1001303765

"Israel–Turkey relations were formalized in March 1949, when Turkey was the first Muslim majority country to recognize the State of Israel. Both countries gave high priority to military, strategic, and diplomatic cooperation, while sharing concerns with respect to the regional instabilities in the Middle East."


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Defense Industrial Cooperation. Jerusalem and Ankara have signed several contracts that could transform Israel into a major supplier of arms and technology for Turkey, enabling the latter to circumvent sanctions by its traditional suppliers in Western Europe and the United States (imposed due to the efforts of anti-Turkish lobbying groups and to punish alleged human rights violations perpetrated in the course of Turkey's war with the PKK). These contracts include a $650 million deal for Israel Aircraft Industries to refurbish and upgrade fifty-four Turkish Air Force F-4E Phantom aircraft (some of the work to be done by Turkish firms in Turkey) and to equip them with fifty Popeye 1 air-to-ground missiles, and a subsequent $150 million coproduction agreement for hundreds of Popeye 2 air-to-ground missiles. Turkey has also reportedly shown interest in obtaining Israeli help in modernizing its ageing fleet of F-5 fighter aircraft and M60 tanks, and in coproducing Israeli reconnaissance UAVs, the Phalcon airborne warning aircraft, the Arrow anti-missile system, and the Merkava tank. With Turkey also planning to expand and modernize its fleet of attack and transport helicopters and its navy, Israeli firms are positioned to land additional major contracts.

Training and Exercises. The air force training exchange agreement calls for Israeli aircraft to train in Turkey four times a year. During the first visit, in April of last year, eight Israeli F-16 fighters spent a week at Akinci air base near Ankara. Such visits are mutually beneficial. They enable the Israelis to gain experience flying long-range missions over mountainous areas (a skill that would be necessary for missions over Iran), and provide greater opportunities for overland training than are available in a small country like Israel. This enables pilots to refine their competitive skills, since it is much harder for pilots to visually identify enemy aircraft over land than over water. Such exercises also enable both air forces to become familiar with procedures and tactics used by their counterparts. This familiarity could facilitate cooperation in wartime. Israel and Turkey also held a joint naval search and rescue exercise in the eastern Mediterranean in June of this year, and they are scheduled to hold a trilateral Israel-Turkey-U.S. naval search and rescue exercise later this year.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org...sh-israeli-military-cooperation-an-assessment

 

[Timur]

you also have relations with israel why is that?

its not about israel as their partner.. they always had foreigners as parters to protect themselves..

and the israel turkey relation thing here you can read what I think of it:

LOL WHAT A HYPOCRITE

What do you want to lecture us where are you from? Planet ignorance? Tell me my ultra well educated laughing friend.. If you know that turkey has good relations with Israel than how can it be that you with such a funny Mentality have no clue about the why...

Or you have a clue but it does not fit your nose?....

Tell me if Israel is such good to us Turks and helped us building defence sector or selling us products or that we sell them water or have good jobs in the constructing industry and how you with your own fingers wrote we did not have a war or fight with them

Why should we fight them? Because what? Can you hyper intelligent funny guy tell me the reason you assume us to fight with them? Or be mad about them? After all the good? Because we have now a little dispute because we backed some balis? This is the whole reason why we have bad relations at all

Israel did not take a single inch or the weight of a mosquitoes wing from our lands

But I see some arabs had been beaten down because Israel did the same arabs did to Turks.. So if you can calculate 1+1 than do us a little favor and keep going on and see the whole picture otherwise it sounds idiotic.. We are no arabs we have no land dispute with Israel

 

[Imran Khan]

is there anyone from UAE or KSA to support or oppose what is going on,
what are their countrymen feeling about it?
what is their say on it?
why they opted for such a treacherous decision?
or they succumbed to the overwhelming American pressure?
Jews are certainly felling buoyant on it. no doubt they have valid reasons for it.

what are you expecting man ? UAE citizens start worshiping Israel the moment tweet online . its UAE if they refuse to go war public start chanting we are peaceful country if gov go to war public start dancing and chest thumping for war . pure cattle follow gov blindly without asking a question

 

[Xone]

They are not allowed to say. Just check twitter, UAE vs Pakistan. The first only has news items being shared, no individual opinion is present.

so it means that it is only a one-man show without masses support. a real example of a monarch in action.

 

[mike2000 is back]

you also have relations with israel why is that?

Lol don't mind that. Some people like claiming the moral high ground. The only advantage they have is that they recognised and had ties with Israel long time ago, so it didn't make too much noise. Since back then there was no social media, forums, 24hrs news channels, internet where people all over the world can share infos instantly etc etc. So that was the best time to act unlike now . Since any major issue is followed and advertised all over the world quite easily. So things are much more sensitive/difficult to hide nowadays.

 

[fhassan]

Absolute disgrace UAE are turning out to be.

Rest of the Muslim world should retake the holy lands as present day occupiers cannot be trusted.

 

[Xone]

what are you expecting man ?

Haha, I only wanted to know how much answerable they are to their public. You know how easy is to force one person to obey unwarranted such demands.

 

[Timur]

What the hell are you even talking about?
Tell me when has Turkey waged war against Israel? lol Instead there is cooperation at every level.


Israelis flock to Turkey in record numbers


https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-israelis-flock-to-turkey-in-record-numbers-1001303765

"Israel–Turkey relations were formalized in March 1949, when Turkey was the first Muslim majority country to recognize the State of Israel. Both countries gave high priority to military, strategic, and diplomatic cooperation, while sharing concerns with respect to the regional instabilities in the Middle East."


"
Defense Industrial Cooperation. Jerusalem and Ankara have signed several contracts that could transform Israel into a major supplier of arms and technology for Turkey, enabling the latter to circumvent sanctions by its traditional suppliers in Western Europe and the United States (imposed due to the efforts of anti-Turkish lobbying groups and to punish alleged human rights violations perpetrated in the course of Turkey's war with the PKK). These contracts include a $650 million deal for Israel Aircraft Industries to refurbish and upgrade fifty-four Turkish Air Force F-4E Phantom aircraft (some of the work to be done by Turkish firms in Turkey) and to equip them with fifty Popeye 1 air-to-ground missiles, and a subsequent $150 million coproduction agreement for hundreds of Popeye 2 air-to-ground missiles. Turkey has also reportedly shown interest in obtaining Israeli help in modernizing its ageing fleet of F-5 fighter aircraft and M60 tanks, and in coproducing Israeli reconnaissance UAVs, the Phalcon airborne warning aircraft, the Arrow anti-missile system, and the Merkava tank. With Turkey also planning to expand and modernize its fleet of attack and transport helicopters and its navy, Israeli firms are positioned to land additional major contracts.

Training and Exercises. The air force training exchange agreement calls for Israeli aircraft to train in Turkey four times a year. During the first visit, in April of last year, eight Israeli F-16 fighters spent a week at Akinci air base near Ankara. Such visits are mutually beneficial. They enable the Israelis to gain experience flying long-range missions over mountainous areas (a skill that would be necessary for missions over Iran), and provide greater opportunities for overland training than are available in a small country like Israel. This enables pilots to refine their competitive skills, since it is much harder for pilots to visually identify enemy aircraft over land than over water. Such exercises also enable both air forces to become familiar with procedures and tactics used by their counterparts. This familiarity could facilitate cooperation in wartime. Israel and Turkey also held a joint naval search and rescue exercise in the eastern Mediterranean in June of this year, and they are scheduled to hold a trilateral Israel-Turkey-U.S. naval search and rescue exercise later this year.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org...sh-israeli-military-cooperation-an-assessment

do you have a bad condition in your brain or heart? you dont know what I am talking about? go back and read than...

Lol don't mind that. Some people like claiming the moral high ground. The only advantage they have is that they recognised and had ties with Israel long time ago

again someone with no abilities to read a text.. man long time ago it was no problem to have ties with israel because israel did not harm us.. what is wrong with you to not understand it? you could have read my respond but you begin to troll around and make conspiracy theories about social media.. if there is a dispute than its only about better coexistence and better standards and no killing

edit: I forgot to count money there is dispute about MSea gas and money

 

[Imran Khan]

Haha, I only wanted to know how much answerable they are to their public. You know how easy is to force one person to obey unwarranted such demands.

badshah hain ap bhi

 

[Musings]

The Middle East has historically been a mish mash nations. Weak leaders - interested in their self importance and self existence. Anyone stepping out of line or getting out of "the comfort zone established" gets a dose of "liberation from the USA " introducing their democracy. Have a look at Libya for example. All roses and saffron in that nation.

The UAE has unilaterally decided to self mediate on behalf of the Palestinian people - which they have no right - and come up with a decision that they find suitable for their self interests.

Pakistanis - in general - are very loyal when it comes to international relations and very passionate about causes involving hardship to Muslims in particular. Sometimes Pakistan have been more Arabic than the Arabs in their support for the Palestinians.

As i have said last week - Pakistan must tread exceptionally carefully and NOT burn bridges with sensitive partners and relations in the Arab world but also facilitate the new world order.
China Iran Turkey Russia and Pakistan are being pushed together and forming new strategic and geopolitical relations and this is the crux of the issue that is giving heartburn to the Saudi and their offspring like the UAE.

Pakistan should look after Pakistan first. This means we no longer are the sheep and follow others. Pak first please.
@PAKISTANFOREVER @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

 

[Xone]

Pakistan should look after Pakistan first. This means we no longer are the sheep and follow others. Pak first please.

Israel is openly supporting Indians to hurt and bleed Pakistan in every possible way, what options Pakistan has, fight back or admit defeat and be sheep. Pakistan had not done any wrongs to Israel while Israel has done the opposite.
Should Pakistan payback to Israel in the same coin, or let Israel hurt us more. India is exactly doing same to the Kashmir what Israel was doing to Palestine. Now Pakistan has to fight two instead of one enemy. believe me, these two are very clever enemies and they believe in more covertly actions than an open challenge.
should Pakistan not find one there in the heart of Israel to pay it back? these Hindus and jews only understand only one language as long as you do not use that they will not respond.

 

[aryobarzan]

A Turkish view of the situation is a good read...


Who is building the Arab front against Turkey?

İbrahim Karagül

Non-Arab Muslim countries are gaining power while Arab Muslim countries, especially those under the influence of Gulf Arabs (i.e. the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, and Egypt under the administration of Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi) are not only regressing, but in fact collapsing.

Non-Muslim Arab countries are rapidly leaving the West’s custody, escaping tutelage, unveiling their own dynamics, while Arab countries are further entrenching into Western protection, building even more dependent relations.

Non-Arab Muslim countries are defending the Islamic world, and the Muslim community’s rights even more fervently, while the Arab countries in question are running like the wind, far away from these claims and legacies. The new UAE-led front is doing this explicitly, and openly rejecting the Islamic political legacy.

UAE, Saudi Arabia, Sisi bringing Western troops to the region

Non-Arab Muslim countries completely reject the West’s “front country” position it has assumed in the Middle East and Asia. Once upon a time, Turkey, Pakistan, and Indonesia formed the “South Zone” against Soviet and Chinese communism and protected the West’s interests. These three countries have come a long way since then.

However, Arab countries, especially Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, are turning themselves into garrisons against the countries that the U.S., Europe and Israel deem as threats in our region. The relations they established both in our region and in South Asia are deploying Western powers to those regions, sending a threatening message.

Attacking those within using foreign power

As non-Arab Muslim countries are striving to combat foreign attacks, Arab Muslim countries are fighting among themselves and their regions – and while doing this, they are calling Western countries to their aid.

Non-Arab Muslim countries are building a power inside-out, struggling, activating their own strengths, while Arab Muslim countries are attacking from abroad, reinforcing their own aptitudes and strengths with foreign power.

Why do wars always take place on Arab territories?

The war between Iran and Iraq was an Arab-Persian war. The 1991 invasion of Iraq was really an Arab-Persian war. The 2003 invasion of Iraq was also characteristically the same. The Arab world lost in all of these wars and invasions. All the wars that took place in our region during the last three decades have occurred on Arab lands, and these wars were never won.

Arab weakness is not the reason underlying this but rather the unilateral dependency relations, which their administrations establish with the West. This relation has almost always been against the Arab people and their countries.

Two princes, one dictator: An apocalypse is on its way

This dependency relationship is now being renewed. It is becoming even more destructive. It is now being led by Mohammed bin Zayed (UAE), Mohammed bin Salman (Saudi Arabia), and Sisi (Egypt).

They initially used Arab regimes against Iran. Yet, this form of exploitation was based not on their interests, but rather on Israel’s priorities and U.S. plans. They have been fighting within this context for three decades and always losing.

This is because their defeat is being pursued. Those exploiting them are also depleting their resources.

Thus, the Arab-Persian border was drawn back all the way from the Iran-Iraq border to the Mediterranean. They lost Iraq and Syria, and they are now going to lose Lebanon and Yemen.

Now the ‘Turkey front’ has been launched: An undeclared war!

This time around, the same mentality activated Arab power against Turkey. They established an “Anti-Turkey Front” comprising of the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Gulf countries, and Sisi’s Egypt.

This front attempted unfathomable moves against Turkey in the entire region. Managing terrorist organizations, economic attacks, assassinations and executions included, from Africa to South Asia, it is trying to weaken Turkey in every field.

They are carrying on an undeclared war with Turkey in Libya, in the East Mediterranean, in the Caucasus, in the Persian Gulf, around the Red Sea, and in Central Africa. While they do this, they are building partnerships with Israel, France, the U.S., Europe and, in fact, with Greece and the Greek Cypriot Administration.

Pakistan is the next target

It is quite interesting that the same front has recently been targeting Pakistan. Saudi Arabia and the UAE established a rapport with India and started targeting Pakistan, which is celebrating its founding today.

Joint investments are being annulled, support given is being retracted, and India’s plans regarding Kashmir are being promised explicit support.

Why?

After Turkey, are these Arab countries going to be used against Pakistan as well? Which countries will follow? Indonesia? It is highly likely.

After Shiite-Sunni war, a Sunni civil war is now on the horizon!

Something sinister lies behind every move. How so?

A project titled, “Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources and Strategies,” was published in 2003 in the U.S. It entirely explains how the “Islamic civil war” could be broken out.

A year later, another 567-page report titled, “U.S. Strategy in the Muslim World,” was published. This report discusses the details of the Islamic civil war. Among the fronts to be formed, first is the Shiite-Sunni war, while the second front is identified as Arab Muslims against non-Arab Muslims.

The Arab streets must awaken!

This is what is happening today. The UAE, Saudi Arabian, and Egyptian regimes were utilized for the Shiite-Sunni war. They have now been driven to the ground for a civil war among Sunnis, and Turkey was presented to them as the primary target.

These regimes lost in every war and destroyed the region. They are going to lose this war as well.

However, the Arab people, its patriots should know that this is nothing other than preparation for suicide. They set the trap on Arab lands and countries. These leaders, these regimes are going to drag the Arab region to destruction and carve up Arab lands into city states. Let us reiterate: Why is it that non-Arab Muslim countries are gaining power while Arab Muslim countries are constantly losing power?

The Arab streets must wake up now!

We must resist against the new colonialism!

https://www.yenisafak.com/en/column...uilding-the-arab-front-against-turkey-2047558

 

[terry5]

 

[DavidSling]

Israel is openly supporting Indians to hurt and bleed Pakistan in every possible way, what options Pakistan has, fight back or admit defeat and be sheep. Pakistan had not done any wrongs to Israel while Israel has done the opposite.
Should Pakistan payback to Israel in the same coin, or let Israel hurt us more. India is exactly doing same to the Kashmir what Israel was doing to Palestine. Now Pakistan has to fight two instead of one enemy. believe me, these two are very clever enemies and they believe in more covertly actions than an open challenge.
should Pakistan not find one there in the heart of Israel to pay it back? these Hindus and jews only understand only one language as long as you do not use that they will not respond.

Firstly, "Pakistan had not done any wrongs to Israel" - just false, it supports boycott of Israel, it helped arab armies in their war against Israel and so on
Secondly, "Israel is openly supporting Indians" - Many countries support India (some of which are: U.S, Russia, EU countries, Arab countries and many others)
Thirdly, India recognized Israel and Pakistan didn't, ofcourse we'd support friendly countries and not countries that dont even recognize our existance

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Firstly, "Pakistan had not done any wrongs to Israel" - just false, it supports boycott of Israel, it helped arab armies in their war against Israel and so on
Secondly, "Israel is openly supporting Indians" - Many countries support India (some of which are: U.S, Russia, EU countries, Arab countries and many others)
Thirdly, India recognized Israel and Pakistan didn't, ofcourse we'd support friendly countries and not countries that dont even recognize our existance

How did Pakistan help Arab armies against Israel? Could you please provide some credible evidence?