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Recognition and trade of states with enmity was present from the inception of Islam all the way to the Ottoman Caliphate.

This trend of isolation is a result of muslim insecurities after losing most of their status as leaders of world powers. Pakistan is befuddled with the legacy of the Khilafat movement and Arab -Israeli conflict. Oddly, those countries that have had actual conflicts with Israel now not only recognize but train with them, and are consequently much more able to influence the rights of Palestinians - while Pakistan simply suffers from thinking itself as the next Bani Israel so the only one responsible for maintaining some romantic principle.

But that is a larger issue of an ignorant population and less of state direction.

The problem with your line of argument is simple, muslims have always pressurized rulers/ empires they've had enmity with. Back then trade and recognition had no value as a pressure tactic, why would it? There were no passports, no strict borders, trade was simply trade, now trade is dollars. Pressure tactics back then were raids into enemy territory, will raids be accepted from muslim nations in this time? Trade and recognition is the biggest instrument of non-kinetic policy in these times.

I don't understand: we muslims say islam should move with the times, and when it does, we fail to recognize that.
 
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nah its good to see we did not bothered it at all .
.yep we only announced that we are forming a committee to come together and see the impact of this on Pakistan and give out a statement post that.
 
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Modi has obviously managed to convert this guy to hinduism/sikhism.........:disagree:
 
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I am not alluding to recognizing Israel; my beef is with the logic offered by another member.

I just wonder why WE continue to recognize India given its designs against Pakistan and absolute lack of commitment to address the issue of Kashmir. Israel does not even remotely compare to Indians in this regard.

That is fine, but understand following:

1. Jews are native to Palestine (2000+ years of history)
2. Israel is a European creation much like so many other modern nation-states.
3. Existence of Israel was legitimized by UN much like in the case of so many other modern nation-states.

Let us all get our facts straight for once.

First you must recognize a question of principle. It is a difficult one to answer. If a people in the past were living somewhere but were displaced by force and after that another people came and acclimatized to that place, do the first people have the right to take back their lands by force?

On the face of it the answer is a simple Yes, but the implications are great and open to much misuse, who will prove if they are the same people, ethnicities have been fluid over history, then Islam/ christianity have been major disruptors in the 'known' sort of history of peoples (~2000 years). Who has the right to UK, Germany? In that region who were the locals, who were the romans?

Therefore the unfortunate answer should be a No. They should have the right to return but under peaceful terms. Israel in its current form didnt do that, Indian hindutva is not claiming its hindu heritage back peacefully. Sure they can add Ashoka, Gupta to their books but why take Mugals and Dehli sultanate out as if its not indian history.

Why do we recognize India and not Israel, because in contemporary times one was born out of a legitimate partition, the other was born out of annexations, even the USA and UK could not answer what were the borders of Isreal to date. Trump stood next to Yahu not many months ago and said I would like to see you stop making more settlements.

Your line of argument unfortunately is very common in Pakistan, but it is one that doesnt stand up to rigor I must say.
 
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Oman supports UAE decision to normalise ties with Israel


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DUBAI (Reuters) - The Gulf state of Oman said on Friday it supported the United Arab Emirates’ decision to normalise ties with Israel, saying it hoped the accord would contribute to a comprehensive, just and sustainable peace in the Middle East.

The statement by a foreign ministry spokesman, carried by state news agency ONA, called the UAE-Israel agreement “historic”.

(This story refiles to fix grammar in lede)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-to-normalise-ties-with-israel-idUSKCN25A12U
 
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is there anyone from UAE or KSA to support or oppose what is going on,
what are their countrymen feeling about it?
what is their say on it?
why they opted for such a treacherous decision?
or they succumbed to the overwhelming American pressure?
Jews are certainly felling buoyant on it. no doubt they have valid reasons for it.
 
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is there anyone from UAE or KSA to support or oppose what is going on,
what are their countrymen feeling about it?
what is their say on it?
why they opted for such a treacherous decision?
or they succumbed to the overwhelming American pressure?
Jews are certainly felling buoyant on it. no doubt they have valid reasons for it.
They are not allowed to say. Just check twitter, UAE vs Pakistan. The first only has news items being shared, no individual opinion is present.
 
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So here it goes. ARAB abandoning Palestine although they haven't done enough. Now it matter of few month before Saudi will also sign something like this. And all of their sympathizers in Pakistan will also say we should follow Saudis.
My guess is this is done just to check the reaction of other countries MBS want UAE to check the reaction before he jumps the ship.
I say let them go and screw OIC. First Kashmir and then Palestine. We will get their Inshallah. Arabs are done they will be left alone at the end. No more sympathy for them let them burn themselves.
 
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