UAE ISRAEL Peace Agreement

[kingQamaR]

I guess he wasn't very accurate. The Jewry has seized Jerusalem since 1967. We haven't seen a lot of men or women of the Muslim world die because of that. And now there is this peace agreement between a muslim nation and the Jewry.

the only people that come to my head who have no issues of being colonised and dominated. are famously Hindus & indians so I understand why your thinking is one of subservient. that what makes Pakistanis & indians so different

 

[batmannow]

pal ... what your language.

If iran is that great, why do you not move there. Most iranians want to run away and when they leave, they start to drink like no ones' business and eat pork.

Doesn't matters iranians has showed the world they are brave and resiliant nogh to stand on what they belive what's right?
They are not foolish like Arabs who thinks bending on thier front is called peace?
Arabs never learned from. Thier past, look at qadafi, look at saddam both were USA allies at some point they gave up. All nd then they been hunted down!
UAE is following the same pattern, of self destruction cause both of KSA and UAE kings are weak, bastards who spent thier dam lives using thier oil money, they don't have spine to stand against DAJALs forces and we know many of Muslims will join them but now it's not matters who is from which sect, instead these Arabs has given the leadership to IRAN and in a gold plate even thier own ppls will revolt against them and u ill see that happening soon, while weak nations won't survive new and real Arab spring comming to them At lighting speed while I think more Arabs are eating pork these days on there trips to white house these days their time has come to become the sand of thier kingdom, God will destroy them but from AFGHANISTAN TO PAKISTAN TO IRAN TO SIRYA TURKEY ppls won't accept this crap and these govts knew that well

Pakistan's population is at most 220 million not 22 billion...........

Sorry was driving here was hard rainin the night, so may made mistake

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I know we are emotional about this but keeping our enemies closer is an old Atige

Closer, like letting Mossad officially in our country to sabotage our nuclear program and run ops for India?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Recognition and trade of states with enmity was present from the inception of Islam all the way to the Ottoman Caliphate.

This trend of isolation is a result of muslim insecurities after losing most of their status as leaders of world powers. Pakistan is befuddled with the legacy of the Khilafat movement and Arab -Israeli conflict. Oddly, those countries that have had actual conflicts with Israel now not only recognize but train with them, and are consequently much more able to influence the rights of Palestinians - while Pakistan simply suffers from thinking itself as the next Bani Israel so the only one responsible for maintaining some romantic principle.

But that is a larger issue of an ignorant population and less of state direction.

They have lost their moral fiber, given up hope of victory, and accepted servitude over freedom.

They will get what is coming to them. Israelis cannot be trusted. Apartheid state will take their lands piece by piece.

 

[The SC]

@The SC

https://twitter.com/x/status/1293975019970863105

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/anne...-better-relations-with-the-arab-world.671085/

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Chalo at least the cat is out of the bag now. Khul ke saamne toh aye. After about half a century of hypocrisy

It was quite evident from their posturing tho atleast from the past 15 year. The way the UAE always opts for India over Pakistan and Israel over Palestine. The ruling class there does not recognise the Muslim bond or anything. Infact they appear to be ruthless capitalists.
We helped them build their country, their economy, their airline.
There’s a saying in Urdu which applies here
Jis pe ehsaan kar uske shar se dar.

Now wait for Azab of Allah swt to come at them from all directions. Israel will be the source of their demise.

Their time is up now.

palestinans want jihad forever so whats your choice now . they already missed 100 peace deals . at that time israel want some give and take now israel only want to take .

This is a gross oversimplification brother. It is like blaming native Americans for losing their land. We know who was just and who was the thief. Do we legitimize theft, or stand by our principles?

Is our honor and self-respect for sale?

 

[batmannow]

Closer, like letting Mossad officially in our country to sabotage our nuclear program and run ops for India?

Not only that, Saudis wants give back Kalbhushsn give up our kashmir and GB to india America, Saudi, UAE, and Israeli alliance then India will arraxk and take more and then USA and UK will ask pakistani govt to give up thier nuclear assets for economic progress once its done, UK will take karachi and key parts if sindh, while USA will take baluchistan!
Bases will be established in merged kashmir, and India will lead a war on China Pakistan will be told help india fight that war while usa, uk will establish bases in karachi and baluchistan against Iran!
That's called great game from. Greater Israel, some. Of our leadership may hve agreed for it but. They are afraid of the backlash from. Ppls of Pakistan and that will surly unite ppls in pakistan against any of that move

 

[The Accountant]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........................Anyway, I don't even know why Pakistanis even bother about the "Ummah" when they hardly follow Islam properly anyway...........................

Apart from Pakistanis, EVERY OTHER NATION only cares about their own interests, economy and prosperity. It's about time Pakistanis started to do the same. If we don't then in 10-20 years time, Afghanistan, Ethiopia, Somalia, the Congo, Liberia and Haiti will look like heaven compared to Pakistan.

What a stupid remarks. What is the relationship between our economic failures with recognition of Israel? Only stupid can claim such thing.

Regarding islam talk about yourself. U r not a judge. How can pasa a judgement of your thinking on all Pakistanies ?

 

[shah_123]

Now wait for Azab of Allah swt to come at them from all directions. Israel will be the source of their demise.

Their time is up now.



This is a gross oversimplification brother. It is like blaming native Americans for losing their land. We know who was just and who was the thief. Do we legitimize theft, or stand by our principles?

Is our honor and self-respect for sale?

Desi liberals have neither honour nor self respect.

 

[Clutch]

They are frightened of their government. You cannot even help accident victims in KSA, they may arrest you. It is a frightening place to live.

I think domestic discontent will build until the death of King Salman, afterwhich there will be a power struggle between MBS and Mohammad bin Nayef loyalists (whom MBS deposed.)

If we look in Ahadith, this is already prophesized that after the death of a king, two factions will fight in Jazirat al Arab, then Al Mahdi will rise.

Allahu Alim on when that will occur exactly.



My good friend and colleague from undergrad was Palestinian. His grandfather and family were forced out of Palestine at gunpoint by Jewish gangsters called Irgun and Haganah from British Palestine. His family settled in Latin America and eventually spread out over Puerto Rico, Grenada, Brazil, etc. When his grandfather tried to go back to recover his land, Israeli settlers had already taken over. He came back empty handed.

There are so many personal accounts like this, some are graphic and deal with massacre, death, rape, and burning to death. Israelis all sorts of intimidation to chase the Palestinians out of their homeland. Everywhere Palestinians went in the Arab world, they became second-class citizens like in Jordan, or faced further violence like in Lebanon from Maronites.

I listen to their stories because it reminds me of what my family suffered in East Punjab from Hindu and Sikh militias organized by Nehru and Congress. My grandparents had to walk barefoot for miles to reach Pakistan, and the women had to hide in locked metal drums.

I will always have a soft spot for those people who have suffered injustice at the hands of oppressors, due to this reason. Whether they are Native Americans, Blacks during slavery, Palestinians, Afghans, Rohingya, Iraqis, or Syrians.



They succeeded in chasing out 50% of Palestinian population and then denying them the right of return to their lands. They have isolated West Bank villages via checkpoints and delegated them to shoddy roads and long lines, which Jewish settlers travel on Jewish only roads, which are well maintained and they face no restrictions.



Do not buy any produce labelled Made in Palestine, Jordan Valley, and West Bank, as Palestinians hardly profit and most of the profit goes to Israelis.

They realized long ago that Muslims won't buy Made in Israel produce.



So you had some bad experiences with some Arabs. You cannot use it as an excuse to support injustice or view with callousness the suffering of other Arabs. Arabs are a diverse group. Some of them hate Pakistan, these are mostly Muslim Brotherhood of Levant, Arab supremacists, and regime apologists.

Vast majority of Arabs from the Arab world love Pakistanis and support Pakistan in every endeavor. You must realize a few rotten eggs do not spoil the bunch, in this case.



Talking about West Bank, they do not have control over their own electricity, water, airspace, borders, roads. They pay taxes to Israelis, which Israel uses as blackmail to control the PA. They are not allowed to have a military, and any police force runs on their orders. All Palestinian leaders are controlled by Israel.

Those who dare resist are put in jail perpetually, like Marwan Barghouti.

Gaza is an open air prison, whose civilian infrastructure faces constant attack by Israelis. Palestinians cannot even fish past a certain point on their beaches, or they get shot at.

With no proper hospitals, Palestinians leave their sick at the Egyptian border, where kind-hearted Egyptian soldiers take them to hospitals, treat them, and bring them back.

Both Israeli and Egyptian borders are otherwise perpetually closed.



Sheikh Saud Al-Shuraim,

May Allah swt bless him for his principled stand in favor of Palestinians.

You are well informed on this subject... Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[The SC]

Arabs fought Usrael in 5 wars..and tried many things against it..knowing well that we were fighting England and its close allies, as well as France, And the US in disguise in different periods of time from 1948 to 1973.. So we know first hand that we can't defeat the US today.. neither do any others including super powers like Russia and China..

So to be realistic, rational and pragmatic, we are trying peace with Usrael.. we might gain a two state solution for the Palestinians and maybe much more as the status quo is not working nor advantageous.. peace and stability will at least boost the economies of the middle East..
what do we have to lose anyway!

As for Saudi Arabia.. it will be the last to sign an agreement with Usrael.. and only if the two state solution is implemented.. this goes without saying for those who know..

 

[Khan vilatey]

Closer, like letting Mossad officially in our country to sabotage our nuclear program and run ops for India?

And today isi can’t go to Isreal but then at least we even the odds? Today only they operate in Pakistan

 

[Clutch]

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..............................We need more Pakistanis like you..................the problems Pakistan and Pakistanis face are 10x far worst than what ANY of the Arabs or Palestinians are currently going through. Pakistanis need to be loyal to Pakistan ONLY. That's it. End of.

The world doesn't quite work that way... If you don't take a position, others will take a position against you.

The next Pakistan - India conflict... UAE could also send it's Airforce in defense of India... I do not think it's a far fetched proposition.

You cannot sit in a corner and screem, "Pakistan First!, Pakistan Fist!... Pakistan OnLY!, Pakistan OnLY!"... While the rest of the world around you burns...

Do you using the same logic... Say, "Forget Kashmir"..."Pakistan Fist, Pakistan Only!"???... Who's gonna listen?... Why do you say, "Forget Kashmir"???

 

[Clutch]

Its best time to accept Israel...
If arabs don't care why should non arabs care..

Depends... Where are you from?

 

[Xone]

Israel has been trying to get legitimacy from the Muslim world, which, It can not get it without the help of its father America, who is the main Protector of it. Arab states at present are American stooge, I am referring to the monarchs, not the people. These heads of the states are fully dependent on America for their survival. so even if they recognize Israel as a country. Israel will not get a warm welcome from the Arab masses, America controls UAE and KSA defense, oil and their economy, America has kept them in submissiveness not let them challenge its vital interests, Israel is the illegitimate child of American. how can these monarchs dare to go against their godfather?
OIC is dead for the Muslims, It is there to safeguards the selfish interests of these monarchs.and to legitimize their wrongdoing. OIC has failed to bring any relief to the Muslims rather it has become a tool of hoodwinking in their eyes.