UAE and Qatar Officially Join the US War in Afghanistan

[hussain0216]

You're spot on with much, off by some, and one thing is wrong lol.
Pakistanis do share DNA with India according to many studies, it hovers around 50%-65%.
The red shading shows the common grouping on Pakistanis and Indians.
But then Pakistanis are also unique in that they share the blue shading group common in Southern Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia, which broadly is in-line with various timelines in Pakistan.

The Sindhis bro have nothing in common with Gujaratis, the language itself is not spoken, they are ethnically different. Sindhis also have over 30% from Balochi roots, which makes the differences even more pronounced.

Here is a typical Sindhi look;

As for the anti-Arab trolls just refer to them back to who their Rasool(saws) was and his companions and family, or call me. How dare they insult Arab folk who were honoured with the final revelation.
Yes there are things we don't agree with regarding the UAE and other states but how does that equate to blanket labelling Arabs as all bad? Arabs are a wonderful and diverse group spread across many nations.
Anyway I love my Arabic people.

After FATF they are worthless

Emirates have sufficiently mouthed off against Pakistan to be considered a enemy

 

[Saif al-Arab]

It's hard to explain because you neither speak the language nor do you know the history. It's not even that I'm following a political narrative, but we have a unique identity. Many regions of Pakistan have indigenous clans and people that would fall under the umbrella designation of Punjabi such as saraikis, janjuas, ect.

Political agenda or not, we all know the complicated and bloody events that took part when the partition occurred, in particular in the vicinity of the newly founded border.

You are wrong. I actually know quite a bit about South Asian history (knew that before I joined) and I certainly did not learn less during my time on PDF or my interactions with users here. I am not an expert indeed (never claimed so, would be pathetic) nor do I speak any languages native to South Asia. That's also correct.

Being unique and having unique tribes, clans and ethnic groups in region x or y does not mean that those same regions x or y have no ties with each other. I can give you many examples from across the Arab world.

I was talking about immediate border regions from the very beginning. Even mentioned it specifically so I would not be told that Indians come in many shapes, forms and ethnicities. That's self-evident and logical for anyone with an even simplistic knowledge of South Asian history.

Ok, so according to you there are no ties between Pakistani Punjab and Indian Punjab.

How about Baluchistan in Pakistan and Iranian Baluchistan next door? Or what about KP and Eastern Afghanistan? Or what about Pakistani controlled Kashmir and the Indian controlled one? Or what about the Muhajirs of Pakistan that made up, what, some 15-20% of the population? Are most of them not from Indian Punjab, Hyderabad, Bihar, Bengal etc. where most Indian Muslims lived and continue to live in?

After FATF they are worthless

Emirates have sufficiently mouthed off against Pakistan to be considered a enemy

LOL. The GCC had one vote. The UAE nor KSA had one separate vote. Given the disagreements internally between the regimes in power (best exemplified by the Qatari crisis), it was expected.

Using your logic, Pakistan became an enemy state when Arab states asked for a symbolic number of troops to be sent to the border regions of Yemen but where rejected 3.5 years ago. By a supposed ally (Sharif) that KSA saved the *** of a few times.

So Turkey is your only friend, lol? The same Turkey that has closer ties to NATO than any other Muslim nation. In fact they are a NATO member. Closer ties with Israel than any Muslim nation? The same Turkey that supported the US after the Afghan invasion (NATO) more than any other Muslim nation?

Hypocrisy much.

Let us forget all the favors that those same Arab regimes have given Pakistan and by default the Pakistan people (remittances alone say hello).

Meanwhile Iran, nowhere to be seen, gives free 30 day visa to Indians and Saudi Arabians (a country that they have had a conflict with more or less since 1979) but not to Pakistanis. Yet shameless bootlickers of the Iranian regime like you (and anti-Arabs) will insult 500 million Arabs due to some unelected Arab regimes (who have done more for you than most other entities) while forgetting everything else. That's called hypocrisy and bias. I will speak out against it just like earlier in this thread.

 

[waz]

This is true. Pakistan is unique in the sense that you guys have ancestral ties to South Asia/Indian Continent/whatever you want to call it, Western Asia and to a smaller extend Central Asia.

I do know that Sindhis and Gujarits are different people I am just saying that it would be natural for people in Southern Sindh and at least Northern Gujarat to have some kind of substantial ties. I mean is that not best exemplified by Muhammad Ali Jinnah who took the short trip from his ancestral Gujarat (his parents, sorry) to Karachi not far away?

The diversity is huge in South Asia and it's a very interesting region in this sense.

Yes that's right Muhammad Ali Jinnah did come from Gujarat, but its Muslim population stayed behind, which suffers horribly now. He was a rare exception, rather the norm.

Anyway this entire discussion started when the troll @Pan-Islamic Pakistan (who proclaimed himself as a Mughal descendent, aside from having Arab, Persian and Turkic ancestry, all his own words), started his usual anti-Arab nonsense bashing that I picked apart easily (as usual) later for him to escape, and my belief that he is a Indian false-flagger. Either that or schizophrenic.

I know, it's al going rather off-topic now.

BTW since we are discussing this topic, and you brother, if I am not wrong, was from Kashmir, how much do people differ from the Pakistani controlled Kashmir and the Indian one? Is it the same people or are there great differences?

Complicated stuff.

In Azad Kashmir the population is from Punjabi tribes, around 70% in my estimates. The rest are ethnic Kashmiris from the valley which India has. But India also has regions which have areas which are dominated by Punjabi tribes.
My own decent has a crazy story behind it lol. I'll outline it for you if you want.

Of course which is why I always wrote that when I am talking about "Indian" here I am taking about border regions. I mean what is Indian? A citizen of India. This can be anything from those Pygmy descendants (some of the earliest humans out of Africa) that settled the Nicobar Islands, the Mongoloid looking Northeastern Indians, the Southern Indians and everything in between.

I was talking about neighboring regions specially.

Anyway what about the Muhajirs in Pakistan who came from India? Are they not from all over the place at least? Hyderabad, Bihar, Bengal etc.?

Yes the border regions do share commonality, these would be Kashmir and Punjab borders, but it just literally abruptly ends after that.
The migrants who came from India were mostly from Punjab and India's central region, but they're numbers were small and since have been mixed and swamped by tens of millions of Pakistan's groupings. Some (very few) maintain ties to India, but it's a fast dying generation.

@lastofthepatriots is thinking that I am equating Pakistanis with Indians. I am not that ignorant. After all the GCC is home to a large community from South Asia (largest diaspora in fact so not some invisible or insignificant diaspora) and almost every ethnic group is represented. I thus, probably, know about the nuances more than vast majority of foreigners.

Yes it is.

After FATF they are worthless

Emirates have sufficiently mouthed off against Pakistan to be considered a enemy

True, the UAE is not a friend anymore and the FATF revealed that for all. I've written about this numerous times.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Political agenda or not, we all know the complicated and bloody events that took part when the partition occurred, in particular in the vicinity of the newly founded border.

You are wrong. I actually know quite a bit about South Asian history (knew that before I joined) and I certainly did not learn less during my time on PDF or my interactions with users here. I am not an expert indeed (never claimed so, would be pathetic) nor do I speak any languages native to South Asia. That's also correct.

Being unique and having unique tribes, clans and ethnic groups in region x or y does not mean that those same regions x or y have no ties with each other. I can give you many examples from across the Arab world.

I was talking about immediate border regions from the very beginning. Even mentioned it specifically so I would not be told that Indians come in many shapes, forms and ethnicities. That's self-evident and logical for anyone with an even simplistic knowledge of South Asian history.

Ok, so according to you there are no ties between Pakistani Punjab and Indian Punjab.

How about Baluchistan in Pakistan and Iranian Baluchistan next door? Or what about KP and Eastern Afghanistan? Or what about Pakistani controlled Kashmir and the Indian controlled one? Or what about the Muhajirs of Pakistan that made up, what, some 15-20% of the population? Are most of them not from Indian Punjab, Hyderabad, Bihar, Bengal etc. where most Indian Muslims lived and continue to live in?



LOL. The GCC had one vote. The UAE nor KSA had one separate vote. Given the disagreements internally between the regimes in power (best exemplified by the Qatari crisis), it was expected.

Using your logic, Pakistan became an enemy state when Arab states asked for a symbolic number of troops to be sent to the border regions of Yemen but where rejected 3.5 years ago. By a supposed ally (Sharif) that KSA saved the *** of a few times.

So Turkey is your only friend, lol? The same Turkey that has closer ties to NATO than any other Muslim nation. In fact they are a NATO member. Closer ties with Israel than any Muslim nation? The same Turkey that supported the US after the Afghan invasion (NATO) more than any other Muslim nation?

Hypocrisy much.

Let us forget all the favors that those same Arab regimes have given Pakistan and by default the Pakistan people (remittances alone say hello).

Meanwhile Iran, nowhere to be seen, gives free 30 day visa to Indians and Saudi Arabians (a country that they have had a conflict with more or less since 1979) but not to Pakistanis. Yet shameless bootlickers of the Iranian regime like you (and anti-Arabs) will insult 500 million Arabs due to some unelected Arab regimes (who have done more for you than most other entities) while forgetting everything else. That's called hypocrisy and bias. I will speak out against it just like earlier in this thread.

I am actually in a rush as I have a dental appointment, but we can start a new thread on this and I can provide you some information.

 

[hussain0216]

Political agenda or not, we all know the complicated and bloody events that took part when the partition occurred, in particular in the vicinity of the newly founded border.

You are wrong. I actually know quite a bit about South Asian history (knew that before I joined) and I certainly did not learn less during my time on PDF or my interactions with users here. I am not an expert indeed (never claimed so, would be pathetic) nor do I speak any languages native to South Asia. That's also correct.

Being unique and having unique tribes, clans and ethnic groups in region x or y does not mean that those same regions x or y have no ties with each other. I can give you many examples from across the Arab world.

I was talking about immediate border regions from the very beginning. Even mentioned it specifically so I would not be told that Indians come in many shapes, forms and ethnicities. That's self-evident and logical for anyone with an even simplistic knowledge of South Asian history.

Ok, so according to you there are no ties between Pakistani Punjab and Indian Punjab.

How about Baluchistan in Pakistan and Iranian Baluchistan next door? Or what about KP and Eastern Afghanistan? Or what about Pakistani controlled Kashmir and the Indian controlled one? Or what about the Muhajirs of Pakistan that made up, what, some 15-20% of the population? Are most of them not from Indian Punjab, Hyderabad, Bihar, Bengal etc. where most Indian Muslims lived and continue to live in?



LOL. The GCC had one vote. The UAE nor KSA had one separate vote. Given the disagreements internally between the regimes in power (best exemplified by the Qatari crisis), it was expected.

So Turkey is your only friend, lol? The same Turkey that has closer ties to NATO than any other Muslim nation. In fact they are a NATO member. Closer ties with Israel than any Muslim nation? The same Turkey that supported the US after the Afghan invasion (NATO) more than any other Muslim nation?

Hypocrisy much.

Let us forget all the favors that those same Arab regimes have given Pakistan and by default the Pakistan people (remittances alone say hello).

Meanwhile Iran, nowhere to be seen, gives free 30 day visa to Indians and Saudi Arabians (a country that they have had a conflict with more or less since 1979) but not to Pakistanis. Yet shameless bootleggers like you will insult 500 million Arabs due to some unelected Arab regimes while forgetting everything else. That's called hypocrisy and bias. I will speak out against it just like earlier in this thread.

Lets go over it again


The U.S tries to screw Pakistan for not following stupid U.S strategy

No matter Pakistan only requires 3 votes to block

Turkey our brothers stand with us
China our iron friends stands with us

Saudi, of course Saudi our dear friends, brothers, of course they will stand with us stopping the machinations of the idiot Americans
We dont even need to bother running around to any other country...
Oh wait the Arabs fcuked us by rolling over like a dog because the U.S snapped its fingers

Between this and Emirates openly taking anti-Pak actions with india

Frankly the arabs are more a pain in the *** then anything else

The arabs are U.S stooges in Afghanistan and Pakistan should actively oppose their actions and defend Pakistan borders

 

[raptor22]

Such a competition ... so far Qatar won in court, should wait to see who is gonna win here ..

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Lets go over it again


The U.S tries to screw Pakistan for not following stupid U.S strategy

No matter Pakistan only requires 3 votes to block

Turkey our brothers stand with us
China our iron friends stands with us

Saudi, of course Saudi our dear friends, brothers, of course they will stand with us stopping the machinations of the idiot Americans
We dont even need to bother running around to any other country...
Oh wait the Arabs fcuked us by rolling over like a dog because the U.S snapped its fingers

Between this and Emirates openly taking anti-Pak actions with india

Frankly the arabs are more a pain in the *** then anything else

The arabs are U.S stooges in Afghanistan and Pakistan should actively oppose their actions and defend Pakistan borders

Moronic post.

Using your logic, Pakistan became an enemy of Arab states back in 2015 when Pakistan refused to send a symbolic amount of soldiers to the Saudi Arabian-Yemeni border (soldiers experienced with mountain warfare).

So you should not be crying using your moronic and childish logic.

China did not stand with you eventually.

The GCC had one combined vote. If say UAE boycotted it, nothing can be done.

Can you find KSA here cretin?

http://www.fatf-gafi.org/about/membersandobservers/

Anyway you can keep ranting. UAE soldiers were already in Afghanistan long ago (most respected foreign soldiers and never under attack almost) and if UAE and Qatar send some 100-200 troops to train the Afghan national army and help them, this will have no impact. However you can continue your conspiracy theories. The Americans are not going to leave Afghanistan anytime soon, I am afraid and if not them, the Russians would be looking to involve themselves again. None of those would follow the "Pakistani design" for Afghanistan that most Afghans are against as well judged from online forums and sentiments which go both ways as proven by PDF as well.

Meanwhile the average Afghans is not happy about either meddling.

 

[waz]

Lets go over it again


The U.S tries to screw Pakistan for not following stupid U.S strategy

No matter Pakistan only requires 3 votes to block

Turkey our brothers stand with us
China our iron friends stands with us

Saudi, of course Saudi our dear friends, brothers, of course they will stand with us stopping the machinations of the idiot Americans
We dont even need to bother running around to any other country...
Oh wait the Arabs fcuked us by rolling over like a dog because the U.S snapped its fingers

Between this and Emirates openly taking anti-Pak actions with india

Frankly the arabs are more a pain in the *** then anything else

The arabs are U.S stooges in Afghanistan and Pakistan should actively oppose their actions and defend Pakistan borders

The blanket term Arabs should not be used brother. Lastly stop your abuses e.g. Arab this and Arab that.

 

[hussain0216]

Using your logic, Pakistan became an enemy of Arab states back in 2015 when Pakistan refused to send a symbolic amount of soldiers to the Saudi Arabian-Yemeni border (soldiers experienced with mountain warfare).

Not partaking in your crazy wars was a wise and just decision.

The barking of the Emiratis are eye opener to every patriotic Pakistani

China did not stand with you eventually

Only because there was no longer any point after the GCC fcuked us

The GCC had one combined vote. If say UAE boycotted it, nothing can be done.

Any why wasent that one combined vote used to defend Pakistan against U.S prickish plans?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Not partaking in your crazy wars was a wise and just decision.

The barking of the Emiratis are eye opener to every patriotic Pakistani


Only because there was no longer any point after the GCC fcuked us


Any why wasent that one combined vote used to defend Pakistan against U.S prickish plans?

Fighting a terrorist cult in Yemen (Houthis) that since their founding in 1994 have waged several wars against the Yemeni state and killed 10.000's upon 10.000's of Yemenis and now openly talked (and acted through border attacks across the border) against harming one of your traditional allies (KSA) that helped you at your most difficult times numerous times when most other countries looked away and which to this very day continues to host the largest Pakistani diaspora in the world, is not asking for much. Some 100 Pakistani soldiers would have a supporting role. Eventually it was not needed but no doubt this decision left many regimes disappointed and I frankly don't blame them. It's all about national interests. For both parties.

Which barking is that and how is the barking different from the Iranian Mullah's that you worship who host no Pakistanis in comparison (unlike millions of Afghans) and who even deny you 30 day visas (a "honor" that they give to Saudi Arabians and Indians) on arrival unlike the same UAE that you are barking against?

Sure, keep telling yourself that. Spin it like you want to spin it. As long as the Arabs that you are obsessed about are put in a bad light.

Maybe because the GCC do not longer speak with one voice due to your beloved Qatari regime.

Supporting Taliban in Afghanistan is not crazy? Fighting the Houthi terrorist cult is. I see.

Where Pakistan and the same US not the major forces during the Afghan-Soviet war in that proxy fight between the US and USSR? Would you be barking today, had you lived during the 1980's? No, you would be defending your country's policy. Back then the US were great. A great ally. Now this has suddenly changed. Back in 2001, you supported the US invasion of Afghanistan (maybe not in public) but silently your regime (Musharaf) did. Hypocrite much?

Once again, so you understand it once and for all, the US invaded Afghanistan and meddled in it long before any Arabs had even heard the word Afghanistan. The US has a presence in Afghanistan, Arabs do not, for now. Arabs = tiny UAE and Qatar.

Americans are not going anywhere in Afghanistan. They have come to stay most likely in some kind of capacity. Russians have a presence in their satellite Central Asian states too pushing for greater influence as well. They don't follow your design for Afghanistan either. Quite frankly, I doubt that the Chinese do either.

Turkey is fighting side by side with American soldiers in Afghanistan and are a fellow NATO member state. Why are you not voicing your voice against this? A coward? Hypocrite? What is it? It's halal when NATO member Turkey does it in Afghanistan but when UAE or your beloved Qatari regime sends a symbolic number of troops (SUPPOSEDLY) to Afghanistan, it becomes haram?

People like you are simply too dumb to discuss with. It's a waste of time.

 

[hussain0216]

Fighting a terrorist cult in Yemen (Houthis) that since their founding in 1994 have waged several wars against the Yemeni state and killed 10.000's upon 10.000's of Yemenis and now openly talked (and acted through border attacks across the border) against harming one of your traditional allies (KSA) that helped you at your most difficult times numerous times when most other countries looked away and which to this very day continues to host the largest Pakistani diaspora in the world, is not asking for much. Some 100 Pakistani soldiers would have a supporting role. Eventually it was not needed but no doubt this decision left many regimes disappointed and I frankly don't blame them. It's all about national interests. For both parties.

Dont care, your wars are frankly stupid
After FATF regardless of cost I dont want Pakistan to get involved in any arab plot or ploy or plan..
The Emiratis had been agitating against us for a long time and now are a open threat..
Not fighting alongside those clowns was a wise decision

Which barking is that and how is the barking different from the Iranian Mullah's that you worship who host no Pakistanis in comparison and who even deny you 30 day visas (a "honor" that they give to Saudi Arabians and Indians) on arrival unlike the same UAE that you are barking against?

What do I care about the Mullahs or iran? I simply respect their resilience against many odds

Once again, so you understand it once and for all, the US invaded Afghanistan and meddled in it long before any Arabs had even heard the word Afghanistan. The US has a presence in Afghanistan, Arabs do not, for now. Arabs = tiny UAE and Qatar.

Americans are not going anywhere in Afghanistan. They have come to most likely stay in some kind of capacity. Russians have a presence in their satellite Central Asian states too pushing for greater influence as well. They don't follow your design for Afghanistan either. Quite frankly, I doubt that the Chinese do either.

The Americans can have Afghanistan, its a hole filled with human trash, our only objective should be to defend Pakistans borders and ensuring the mess of Afghanistan dosent spill over

 

[Timur]

Brother, you do a great job exposing these hypocrits

The most funniest is that hypocrit Erdogan supporter. His own master is in beds with the Israelis yet he talks complete horseshit behind his computer in his comfy home in Germany.

man you are the most big retard I have ever met on internet.. hypocrit master look at your own flags and talk again..

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The blanket term Arabs should not be used brother. Lastly stop your abuses e.g. Arab this and Arab that.

When we say Arab in this thread, it’s referring to the GCCC and its puppets (Egypt,etc.) as they refer to themselves as ideological, political leaders of Arabs.

Of course the Arab masses are mostly poor and powerless, suffering one misfortune or another, directly resulting from US puppet GCCC and its proxies.

 

[Kaniska]

Says the self-proclaimed off-spring of Indians (Mughals).



You are a false-flagger, hence you obsession about Arabs. I smell an Indian troll. You claimed Arab, Mughal, Persian and Turkic ancestry already on this forum.

Those Arabs are the only people to date that have fought against Israel. The only people that have fought against the USA superpower as much. Iraq alone has fought two devastating wars against the US. A bunch of Arab teenagers (supposedly) harmed the US more than any other entity in the world since WW2. Poorly armed Syrians are fighting against another superpower (Russia) in Syria.

Get lost kid.

The same Arabs fought numerous wars against European empires in ancient and pre-colonial times. Where were you? Nowhere to be seen. We reached central France. That was as far as we went. We were a few 100 km away from Paris 1300 years ago.

Get lost from here, troll.



Says the pathetic hypocritical Islamist that lives in Germany and whose ancestral country (Turkey) is the biggest Western lapdog (using your logic) in the Muslim world since WW2. NATO member, hosting US bases, hosting Israeli embassies, having close economic ties with the Israeli apartheid state, doing everything that suited Western interests until recently when Turkey discovered that the Americans wanted a Kurdish state (second Israel in the region) etc.

The same ancestral country of his sent many more soldiers to Afghanistan as part of the US coalition after 2001 than UAE did. There are Turkish troops in Afghanistan to this day.

Pakistan users here are sleeping about this fact though since it became popular to bash Arabs here by some trolls.

The likes of @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan (Indian troll) won't mention that Turkey is working side by side with NATO in Afghanistan but when UAE and Qatar TALK about sending a symbolic number of troops his panties get on fire.

Pathetic hypocritical wannabe "Islamist" troll.

@Timur are you going to be a coward again and ignore my factual post and escape as usual later to bark elsewhere as usual? Does the truth hurt?

@Rukarl here he is in action again.

Man...why are you insulting us by tagging him as Indian troll...

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Man...why are you insulting us by tagging him as Indian troll...

Is calling him a self-proclaimed Mughal with supposed Arab, Persian and Turkic ancestry (as claimed by him) and showing him a photo of a Mughal descendent, "insulting Indians"? We have a different perception of the word "insult then".

BTW I do believe that he is an Indian false-flagger troll or at least a non-Pakistani troll.

Dont care, your wars are frankly stupid
After FATF regardless of cost I dont want Pakistan to get involved in any arab plot or ploy or plan..
The Emiratis had been agitating against us for a long time and now are a open threat..
Not fighting alongside those clowns was a wise decision




What do I care about the Mullahs or iran? I simply respect their resilience against many odds



The Americans can have Afghanistan, its a hole filled with human trash, our only objective should be to defend Pakistans borders and ensuring the mess of Afghanistan dosent spill over

Yes, it's stupid to destroy terrorists and enemies of the state. Great logic. As if your wars against domestic terrorists are any less "stupid" using your moronic "logic".

But we should care about some FATF where all member states blacklisted you with the exception of 1, lol?

Yes, go worship their non-existent "resilience" and lick their behinds. Once it was Arabs, then it became Iranians and now it is Turks.

Good, then we agree. I don't care about Afghanistan either. If it was up to me not a single Arab penny, a single Arab individual etc. would step foot in that perpetually failed country. If I could turn the time back I would have prevented this 38 years ago as well.