UAE accuses Iran of destabilising Middle East

[raptor22]

uae lacks of good sam systems they should buy some or more maybe some chinese?

I also would recommend many turkish korkut..

and since tehran is far than 1000km away but from iran they (iran) can hit everything in uae (500km from coast) its somehow bad for a ballistic missle system to buy... so some 300 km ballistic missles would not threaten iran much

I think a combination of sam etc and good airforce is the key to encouter any thread or just to keep mouthes shut..




what? whats about this question, is it a joke? he wont say it from his own tongue.. the key to identify him is when you see a big army in front of mekka wich dissapears by an earthquake.. and than wait for the black flags from east who will join them..

I mean as far as I know he is from descendants of the prophet (pbuh) and he is about to make the world a better place to live a world full of justice and fairness .. then why we are waiting for? why we don't choose him to put an end to all oppression and unjust in the world once for all ...

 

[Timur]

I mean as far as I know he is from descendants of the prophet (pbuh) and he is about to make the world a better place to live a world full of justice and fairness .. then why we are waiting for? why we don't choose him to put an end to all oppression and unjust in the world once for all ...

because we are ppl who are differnt from ppl like omar r.a. different from khalid ibn walid and salah ad din and nureddin and fatih sultan mehmet we do not have their spirits because we are bound to this world.. that is why.. even if mahdi would come today how would the muslims response be? they would label him as a terrorist.. they would labal any muslim leader as terrorist or bad that is the real issue and that is why they all suffer

 

[raptor22]

because we are ppl who are differnt from ppl like omar r.a. different from khalid ibn walid and salah ad din and nureddin and fatih sultan mehmet we do not have their spirits because we are bound to this world.. that is why.. even if mahdi would come today how would the muslims response be? they would label him as a terrorist.. they would labal any muslim leader as terrorist or bad that is the real issue and that is why they all suffer

I don't get it ... you mean we can not choose because we ain't as good as Omar r.a.? that's why?
The point is base upon prophet prophecies Mahdi is gonna be descendants of the prophet (pbuh) therefore all we need to do is just to ask people whom are direct blood of the prophet (pbuh) those who their names are Mahdi and choose one of them and appoint him as Imam to put an end to all these oppression once for good ...

 

[Timur]

I don't get it

t we do not have their spirits

we are bound to this world

I add we dont care for ahira we care for dunya now I think it must be clear why...

 

[raptor22]

I add we dont care for ahira we care for dunya now I think it must be clear why...

I don't get it 'cause I have never seen a single verse in holy Quran or other Islamic books, Hadith etc etc that people are supposed to choose and appoint an Imam ... let alone to talk about the spirituality and goodness of those whom are supposed to choose or caring about ahira or dunya ... if you know any prophet , messenger or successor whom ever was chosen by people rather than God please tell me ...

 

[Luffy 500]

@Oscar @Irfan Baloch @Serpentine What about this poster @2800 ? This guy is utterly unable to write a single sentence without reviling what he calls "wahabis" as pigs and dogs. Any post even suspected of making iranians uncomfortable are promptly deleted but iranians get away with almost all sort of abuse. It seems stating facts are now banned in PDF where as abuse and maligning of normative orthodox islam is encouraged under the banner of "attacking wahabism" . WHy this double standard?

@Oscar how come this following thread of mine was locked?

https://defence.pk/threads/south-african-muslim-scholars-block-egypts-war-criminal-“grand-mufti”-visit.451637/

Was this worse than what iranians like the poster below posts?

Those PGCC Wahhabi pigs .

S snake's head

satanic najdi man made beliefs

animals such as dog and cat behave much better than wahhabis

First of all do not bring religion you wahhabi turd.

Shut up wahhabi pig.

How's this guy isn't banned yet? If any "Wahhabi" said half the things he has been saying he'll be long gone....

These iranians have a free run here bro. Anything that makes iranians uncomfortable quickly gets taken down for some reason but iranians can abuse anyone and get away with it.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@Oscar @Irfan Baloch @Serpentine What about this poster @2800 ? This guy is utterly unable to write a single sentence without reviling what he calls "wahabis" as pigs and dogs. Any post even suspected of making iranians uncomfortable are promptly deleted but iranians get away with almost all sort of abuse. It seems stating facts are now banned in PDF where as abuse and maligning of normative orthodox islam is encouraged under the banner of "attacking wahabism" . WHy this double standard?

@Oscar how come this following thread of mine was locked?

https://defence.pk/threads/south-african-muslim-scholars-block-egypts-war-criminal-“grand-mufti”-visit.451637/

Was this worse than what iranians like the poster below posts?














These iranians have a free run here bro. Anything that makes iranians uncomfortable quickly gets taken down for some reason but iranians can abuse anyone and get away with it.

I know what you are saying and sadly he is the extremist version of the other side

 

[Aramagedon]

I know what you are saying and sadly he is the extremist version of the other side

No dear I don't takfir anyone and I am too far from being an extremist. But what do you except me when saudis insulted imam Mahdi (A) or insult Shias left and right ? This @alarabi guy as a typical saudi has created tens threads against Iran and in all of them has put ' Safavid ' tag. He always calls Iranians and Shias ' Safavid '.

If I say wahhabi I don't means all of saudis at all, I only mean the guys who slay Muslims in Iraq & Syria but @alarabi always calls Shias Safavid. Safavid Empire is not beginning of Shia Islam. History of Shia Islam goes back to several centuries before Savafid Empire. The first Egyptian Empire after Islam was Shia and also the first Iranian Empire after Islam was Shia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimid_Caliphate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyid_dynasty

 

[Sipahi]

Both of them are India's best friend along with Afghanistan, why don't Iran and UAE ask Bharat to mediate

 

[Timur]

I don't get it 'cause I have never seen a single verse in holy Quran or other Islamic books, Hadith etc etc that people are supposed to choose and appoint an Imam ... let alone to talk about the spirituality and goodness of those whom are supposed to choose or caring about ahira or dunya ... if you know any prophet , messenger or successor whom ever was chosen by people rather than God please tell me ...

I don't know why you don't get it..

Lol you simply wrote many times to choose him.. I never said to choose him.. What's your point.. I wrote that we Muslims only care for dunya and that's why we are punished.. We are mostly not Ready and many of us would reject him..

Also I know what you are up to with the word choosing..and I will not get into this different discussion because it could lead to a ban

Man I know that you know much more about your Mahdi Specially that he lives in the secret that he has disappeared and that he controls the affairs of the world in your version..

Actually there are places where you guys think he hides or has vanished

This holds a major key role in your believe so no way from the beginning that you think to go around to find him or similar things

Let's end it we are deeply off topic

 

[raptor22]

I don't know why you don't get it..

Lol you simply wrote many times to choose him.. I never said to choose him.. What's your point.. I wrote that we Muslims only care for dunya and that's why we are punished.. We are mostly not Ready and many of us would reject him..

Also I know what you are up to with the word choosing..and I will not get into this different discussion because it could lead to a ban

Man I know that you know much more about your Mahdi Specially that he lives in the secret that he has disappeared and that he controls the affairs of the world in your version..

Actually there are places where you guys think he hides or has vanished

This holds a major key role in your believe so no way from the beginning that you think to go around to find him or similar things

Let's end it we are deeply off topic

Actually I think I made my point clear and you grasp it very well ....and I wonder how you are gonna explain it to yourself ....the point is no one except God could appoint .... it's what happened to all 124000 prophets from Adam to Khatam ... that's why the idea of Saqifah is not appealing ...

2:124: And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."​

19:49 : So when he had left them and those they worshipped other than Allah , We gave him Isaac and Jacob, and each [of them] We made a prophet.

2:30 And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

32:24 And We made from among them leaders guiding by Our command when they were patient and [when] they were certain of Our signs.
​

even prophet of God Moses (pbuh) ain't allowed to appoint an assistance for himself God did that:

25:35 And We had certainly given Moses the Scripture and appointed with him his brother Aaron as an assistant.​

As God says:

33:21 : There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.​

If we accept that the prophet (pbuh) didn't appoint anyone as successor , base on aforementioned verse not appointing was excellent pattern for Muslims to not do it in the future .... while if we take it vise versa which means what Omar and Abo Bakr did back then in Saqifah to appoint a successor for prophet (pbuh) and take it as an excellent pattern for the Ummah and its future then we should conclude that prophet (pbuh) was wrong in not appointing anyone .....which one is true? prophet pattern or Omar pattern? or prophet (pbuh) indeed appointed a successor ...

If you were able to choose the first Imam ( while God and his prophet couldn't or didn't think of it and left people on their own ) then please choose the last one and bring justice into the world once for good. as it seems God is busy ....


By the way the reason why his arrival has taken too long ain't about punishing humans , what do you think of God? an angry moody creatures that would behave like a child? the point is as far as we don't realize Imamat and its importance in the religion (Abraham had been already a prophet but as God says : Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people ..... ) and don't demand it by you heart nothing would happen ... what people did to 11 Imams? didn't they kill behead and poison all of them one by one ...?

 

[Timur]

Actually I think I made my point clear and you grasp it very well ....and I wonder how you are gonna explain it to yourself ....the point is no one except God could appoint .... it's what happened to all 124000 prophets from Adam to Khatam ... that's why the idea of Saqifah is not appealing ...

2:124: And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."​

19:49 : So when he had left them and those they worshipped other than Allah , We gave him Isaac and Jacob, and each [of them] We made a prophet.

2:30 And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

32:24 And We made from among them leaders guiding by Our command when they were patient and [when] they were certain of Our signs.
​

even prophet of God Moses (pbuh) ain't allowed to appoint an assistance for himself God did that:

25:35 And We had certainly given Moses the Scripture and appointed with him his brother Aaron as an assistant.​

As God says:

33:21 : There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.​

If we accept that the prophet (pbuh) didn't appoint anyone as successor , base on aforementioned verse not appointing was excellent pattern for Muslims to not do it in the future .... while if we take it vise versa which means what Omar and Abo Bakr did back then in Saqifah to appoint a successor for prophet (pbuh) and take it as an excellent pattern for the Ummah and its future then we should conclude that prophet (pbuh) was wrong in not appointing anyone .....which one is true? prophet pattern or Omar pattern? or prophet (pbuh) indeed appointed a successor ...

If you were able to choose the first Imam ( while God and his prophet couldn't or didn't think of it and left people on their own ) then please choose the last one and bring justice into the world once for good. as it seems God is busy ....


By the way the reason why his arrival has taken too long ain't about punishing humans , what do you think of God? an angry moody creatures that would behave like a child? the point is as far as we don't realize Imamat and its importance in the religion (Abraham had been already a prophet but as God says : Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people ..... ) and don't demand it by you heart nothing would happen ... what people did to 11 Imams? didn't they kill behead and poison all of them one by one ...?

I make it clear for everyone you wont accept anything you suggested because its the fundaments of your shia 12er religion.. you cant acceppt anything because you would destroy your shia 12er belief.. than you come with quran text about prophets.. so clearly your intention is about abu bakr r.a umar.a, uthman r.a and that they have been chosen..

and than you go further and think to apply that logic on me.. even if I said I did not say this ..this are your own words..

Who will choose that endtime imam?

what? whats about this question, is it a joke? he wont say it from his own tongue.. the key to identify him is when you see a big army in front of mekka wich dissapears by an earthquake.. and than wait for the black flags from east who will join them..

when you love quran than have a look at my signature and read the verses and think about THE CULTURE OF writing letters to mahdi:

29:17 35:13-14 21:66 7:194 16:107


more I cannot say to you.. and you dont need more so I wont reply even if I would have a strong desire to reply..

a

 

[Aramagedon]

Actually I think I made my point clear and you grasp it very well ....and I wonder how you are gonna explain it to yourself ....the point is no one except God could appoint .... it's what happened to all 124000 prophets from Adam to Khatam ... that's why the idea of Saqifah is not appealing ...

2:124: And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."​

19:49 : So when he had left them and those they worshipped other than Allah , We gave him Isaac and Jacob, and each [of them] We made a prophet.

2:30 And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

32:24 And We made from among them leaders guiding by Our command when they were patient and [when] they were certain of Our signs.
​

even prophet of God Moses (pbuh) ain't allowed to appoint an assistance for himself God did that:

25:35 And We had certainly given Moses the Scripture and appointed with him his brother Aaron as an assistant.​

As God says:

33:21 : There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.​

If we accept that the prophet (pbuh) didn't appoint anyone as successor , base on aforementioned verse not appointing was excellent pattern for Muslims to not do it in the future .... while if we take it vise versa which means what Omar and Abo Bakr did back then in Saqifah to appoint a successor for prophet (pbuh) and take it as an excellent pattern for the Ummah and its future then we should conclude that prophet (pbuh) was wrong in not appointing anyone .....which one is true? prophet pattern or Omar pattern? or prophet (pbuh) indeed appointed a successor ...

If you were able to choose the first Imam ( while God and his prophet couldn't or didn't think of it and left people on their own ) then please choose the last one and bring justice into the world once for good. as it seems God is busy ....


By the way the reason why his arrival has taken too long ain't about punishing humans , what do you think of God? an angry moody creatures that would behave like a child? the point is as far as we don't realize Imamat and its importance in the religion (Abraham had been already a prophet but as God says : Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people ..... ) and don't demand it by you heart nothing would happen ... what people did to 11 Imams? didn't they kill behead and poison all of them one by one ...?

Very rich information.

 

[denel]

UAE accuses Iran of destabilising Middle East
Foreign18 HOURS AGO BY AGENCIES

The foreign minister of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) accused Iran of playing “the greatest role in causing tension and instability” in the Middle East on Saturday.

Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan pointed towards Iran’s “expansionist regional policies, flagrant violations of the principles of sovereignty and constant interference in the internal affairs of its neighbouring countries.”

He told the United Nations General Assembly’s annual ministerial meeting on Saturday that regional countries hoped last year’s nuclear deal between Iran and six major powers would change Tehran’s “hostile approach”, but those hopes were “quickly thwarted”.

“Iran wasted no time in continuing its efforts to undermine the security of the region, through aggressive rhetoric, blatant interference, producing and arming militias, (and) developing its ballistic missile program,” Al Nahyan said.

The UAE minister said Iran’s interference in Iraq’s internal affairs “has exacerbated… division among its people”.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2016/09/25/foreign/uae-accuses-iran-of-destabilising-middle-east/
Um ok :-//

Hog wash and they have blinders on.
If they have nuts beneath, then go and take out Assad and his croonies vs trying to bully and hit poor yemenis who cant fight back.

 

[raptor22]

I make it clear for everyone you wont accept anything you suggested because its the fundaments of your shia 12er religion.. you cant acceppt anything because you would destroy your shia 12er belief.. than you come with quran text about prophets.. so clearly your intention is about abu bakr r.a umar.a, uthman r.a and that they have been chosen..

and than you go further and think to apply that logic on me.. even if I said I did not say this ..this are your own words..





when you love quran than have a look at my signature and read the verses and think about THE CULTURE OF writing letters to mahdi:

29:17 35:13-14 21:66 7:194 16:107


more I cannot say to you.. and you dont need more so I wont reply even if I would have a strong desire to reply..

a

I simply asked who would choose him and you talked about how to identify him and an earthquake ...by the way it wouldn't change anything ... by the way my point is vivid and clear .. if you could choose then choose and if you're not supposed to do it then how did you choose the first ones ?