U.S. Threatens Egypt With Sanctions Over Russian Arms Deal

[Amun]

I wonder what the proponents of F-16s for Pakistan would do, if ever Pakistan began purchasing big ticket weapons such S-400s or Su-35s from the Russian Federation, and as a result the Zionist States of America impose crippling sanctions on Pakistan? What you say to that? What solutions would you offer then?

I believe Pakistan can cooperate with China for the 5th generation Fighters.

no problem for the US
The US easly can find a new lovely dictator in Egypt instead of SISI to work for American-Israeli interests
the US and S.Arabia supported SISI to make military coup in Egypt

btw in 2018 The US gave $1 billion military aid to Egypt

Inferiority complex again with any Egyptian thread .

Talking to other PDF members to suppress this delusion ..... US imposed Sanctions on Egypt once Sisi is elected as a president. Egyptian people only have the right to elect or overthrow any president.... done with Mubarak ( pro America) and with Morsi (Pro Turkey ) that’s why the 2 countries are angry with Egypt and Egyptians.

BTW your Dictator Erdogan was in Washington 2 days ago during Israeli bombing GAZA but never mention it ( cowered) and no other nation in the world care about seize fire except Egypt ..... so stop your hypocrisy.

Basically, anything that can challenge Israel's military superiority isn't allowed. And if Egypt doesn't heed their call, Uncle Sam will call the Gulf Arabs to suspend all financial aid to Egypt. Egypt has tough choices to make here.

The relations between Egypt and Gulf Arab countries is much more important than any relation with US .
That thing is complicated and you will never understand it as Pakistani or Turks or Iranians .... it’s the language, culture , history and many other things .

Suffice it to say, that during the Egyptian Revolution in 2013 , US and Europe imposed sanctions on Egypt , Saudia Arabia announced that Every dollar decrease due to sanctions.... KSA will compensate Egypt .... and so did other GCC countries except Qatar as it is leaded by MB Government such as Turkey .

 

[Amun]

Egyptian F-16s cant fire AMRAAMs infact US has sold none to Egypt. Now US doesnt want Egypt to buy SU-35s. Seems like US is speaking for its pony Israel so it remains the dominant air power in the region. On the other hand Egypt is so naive, it is busy opposing Turkey at every possible opportunity it gets. Such a tyranny of times when u cant figure out the difference between your enemies and friends!

Really , I don’t know how any person can talk about any thing while he is not aware about ....?!

FYI
Egypt never opposing Turkey, Turkey started it all due to the Egyptian people revolution against Morsi which led to the army to step in ( Morsi was a pro Turkey) believing that Egypt should follow Turkey as MB Member ( as Erdogan).

That was the beginning, then Turkey started to work against Egyptian interests world wide .... Egypt responded by expelling Turkish ambassador and calling the Egyptian ambassador from Ankara and stopped the RO-RO agreement that was signed during MB government.

After that Turkey hosted every terrorist comes from Egypt either stayed in Turkey or moved to Syria ( I have many examples) to extent that there are many TV channels broadcasting from Turkey incites the terrorists in Egypt to commit terroristic operations in Egypt.

And in every gathering the Turkish Dictator who ruled Turkey for about 20 years , in every gathering he attacks Egypt and arguing the west to be against Egypt.
But the Egyptian Government never speaks against Turkey but it has actions on the ground that is more harmful ..... and the day will come sooner or later that Turkey will pay the price of hostility against Egypt.

 

[MMM-E]

Inferiority complex again with any Egyptian thread .

I am only superiority complex against criminal dictator puppet Sisi who killed over 5.000 innocent Egyptian civilians

US imposed Sanctions on Egypt once Sisi is elected as a president

nah

the US and S.Arabia found puppet Sisi to make a military coup against elected president of Egypt MOURSI to destroy alliance between Turkey and Egypt .. and Israel is very happy about it

even TRUMP said that where is my favourite dictator ( Sisi ) ? shame on Egypt

Erdogan was in Washington 2 days ago during Israeli bombing GAZA but never mention it ( cowered) and no other nation in the world care about seize fire except Egypt ..... so stop your hypocrisy.

well done ERDOGAN , good job against ungrateful Palestine , Palestine back stabbed Turkey over peace spring operation in Syria
Turkish People dont want to fight Israel and the US for the sake of useless Arabs and Persians
Turkey should stop supporting so-called muslims , traitor Arabs and ungrateful Persians and Turkey should be ally with Israel instead of criticizing Israel

since 2013 Turkey and Turkish Economy under attack by the US , Israel , the EU and their terrorist groups PKK/YPG , ISIS , FETO ... because of ERDOGAN's stupid action against Israeli SIMON PERES in DAVOS-2009 to support Palestine

also in 2010 only Turkey and Brazil supported Iran for nuclear program against Israel
also in 2012 Turkey and Egypt were allies against Israel
also in 2013 Turkey has started blocking Israel-the US backed plan in Syria , therefore the US and Israel tried to destroy ERDOGAN since 2013


ERDOGAN should stop supporting Arabs and Iran against Israel , because of Iran is ungrateful country and Arab dictators are puppet to the US to give Jerusalem to Israel and to kick Palestinians out of Jerusalem to Sinai/Egypt

And in every gathering the Turkish Dictator who ruled Turkey for about 20 years

ERDOGAN was selected by People in real democratic Election as like MERKEL

ERDOGAN rules Turkey since 2003
and MERKEL rules Germany since 2004

on the other hand the US,S.Arabia backed murderer dictator puppet SISI made a military coup in Egypt and killed over 5.000 Egyptians

btw the US,S.Arabia,the Uae backed FETO Terror organization's failed coup attemp against ERDOGAN in 2016

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

U.S. Threatens Egypt With Sanctions Over Russian Arms Deal
Administration warns Cairo to cancel planned purchase of Russian warplanes



WASHINGTON—The U.S. has warned Egypt of possible sanctions over Cairo’s decision to proceed with a purchase of Russian warplanes, a new source of friction with a country whose leader has been lauded by President Trump.

The warning came in a letter Wednesday from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Secretary of Defense Mark Esper urging Egypt’s defense minister to cancel a deal to buy Russian Su-35 warplanes. The letter, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, said Egypt risked sanctions under a U.S. law barring purchases...


https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-threatens-egypt-with-sanctions-over-russian-arms-deal-11573769929

The great nation of Egypt, the natural leader of the Arab world and its most populous country, has been reduced to nothing but a slave state of US, KSA, UAE, and Israel under Sisi.

First handing over islands to KSA, surrendering water rights to Ethiopian dams, and useless, pointless issues with Sudan (due to KSA,UAE pressure.)

I look for the day when the eagle of Salahuddin will rise again.

Really , I don’t know how any person can talk about any thing while he is not aware about ....?!

FYI
Egypt never opposing Turkey, Turkey stated it all due to the Egyptian people revolution against Morsi which led to the army to step in ( Morsi was a pro Turkey) believing that Egypt should follow Turkey as MB Member ( as Erdogan).

That was the beginning, then Turkey started to work against Egyptian interests world wide .... Egypt responded by expelling Turkish ambassador and calling the Egyptian ambassador from Ankara and stopped the RO-RO agreement that was signed during MB government.

After that Turkey hosted every terrorist comes from Egypt either stayed in Turkey or moved to Syria ( I have many examples) to extent that there are many TV channels broadcasting from Turkey incites the terrorists in Egypt to commit terroristic operations in Egypt.

And in every gathering the Turkish Dictator who ruled Turkey for about 20 years , in every gathering he attacks Egypt and arguing the west to be against Egypt.
But the Egyptian Government never speaks against Turkey but it has actions on the ground that is more harmful ..... and the day will come sooner or later that Turkey will pay the price of hostility against Egypt.

Actually, I have always observed that Egyptians, and North Africans in general, have a high degree of nostalgia for Ottoman empire days, and especially those of Muhammad Ali Pasha.

 

[PakAlp]

I clearly saw a shift in Egypt and Turkey attitude after the arab spring and the Turkish coup. These both nations decided to move from a pro USA relation to a balanced relation between Russia and USA. Military equipment was another big change.

I believe these both nations military and intelligence believe that the USA and west started the arab springs and the turkish coup. So after survival they started to build relation with Russia.

 

[obj 705A]

a country's military strength is not negotiatible, if the US would sell the F-35 to Egypt then that's good, however since the US is not willing to do so the only other option is the Su-35, the JF-17 has less range & payload than the Su-35 so it's not a good option either, the JF-17 can only be an alternative for the Mig-35 but not the Su-35.

furthermore it is best to diversify sources of weapons to avoid being at the mercy of any certain country's will.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Our Arab world leaders are animals and monkeys.

Ranging from that fake cunt alliance led by Pakistan (which is not needed as we have enough people, experience and arms) to other nonsense.


"ooo you Arabs can't fight" lol, because those that keep saying that happen to come from countries whom barely experienced any major wars recently thus there is no failures that can be observed. May the Mutawa'een overthrow all our governments and radicalize our people.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Ranging from that fake cunt alliance led by Pakistan (which is not needed as we have enough people, experience and arms) to other nonsense.

Raheel Sharif is an employee of KSA, it is dishonest to blame Pakistan for that.

Keep your anti-Pakistanism on check.

 

[Jugger]

America should not threaten Egypt Simply based on what’s buried under the Giza plateau.

America will need Egypt’s help to fully utilize the gate.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

For example, GCC did not approve of sanctions on Venezuela and hence Venezuela is not subject to economic sanctions like Iran. USA has only prohibited companies who are within USA to deal with Venezuela but there is no multilayered sanctions like Iran and non USA companies can still trade with Venezuela.

Good post overall.

Here you are talking about "secondary" or "extraterritorial" sanctions. But it's a bit more complicated because even 'primary' sanctions against Venezuela hinder its ability to trade oil with other countries because a lot of countries will only pay in USD but Venezuela cannot access the US financial system. Also, illegal seizure of Venezuelan assets in the USA leads to loss of liquid assets that could be used to fund humanitarian imports.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Good post overall.

Here you are talking about "secondary" or "extraterritorial" sanctions. But it's a bit more complicated because even 'primary' sanctions against Venezuela hinder its ability to trade oil with other countries because a lot of countries will only pay in USD but Venezuela cannot access the US financial system. Also, illegal seizure of Venezuelan assets in the USA leads to loss of liquid assets that could be used to fund humanitarian imports.

Yes, Venezuela will have difficulty in accessing funds via USA's financial system. Venezuelan funds are mostly from oil sales. Only meaningful asset Venezuela had in USA was Citgo but with USA stopping oil purchases from Venezuela, Citgo becomes useless for Venezuela even without USA seizing it. Citgo was not a liquid asset and may not have found a buyer quick enough to be usable. Primary sanctions are not very effective as other countries, mostly non EU ones, are willing to pay in non-dollar currency. Venezuela is inconvenienced only because it had a skewed trading pattern whereby it had severe surplus with countries like India while having heavy dependence on USA & EU for imports. So, it does cause inconvenience but is not a crippling sanction as in case of Iran. So, minor inconvenience not withstanding, primary sanctions can't make a country shake. They are simply too mild

 

[Amun]

The great nation of Egypt, the natural leader of the Arab world and its most populous country, has been reduced to nothing but a slave state of US, KSA, UAE, and Israel under Sisi.

First handing over islands to KSA, surrendering water rights to Ethiopian dams, and useless, pointless issues with Sudan (due to KSA,UAE pressure.)

I look for the day when the eagle of Salahuddin will rise again.



Actually, I have always observed that Egyptians, and North Africans in general, have a high degree of nostalgia for Ottoman empire days, and especially those of Muhammad Ali Pasha.

Again, we don’t care what is your opinion about Sisi or Egypt .... We are not slaves except for allah .... not like you pathetic haters who can’t say a word against US , be it Pakistan or Turkey ( who have delivered the Christian priest after a huge battle of BIG MOUTH) but we fought both US and Israel while you continued your big mouth support as usual.

You words covered with sweet words but filled with hate..... as for Othmans and their Turkish grandsons ..... they are a few minutes in the 7000 years of our great history ..... Turkey is a young impulsive nation don’t know how to live in peace with their neighbors .... even the Kurds who have no country (yet ) have a significant history than Turks who are in Anodal for just a few hundreds of years.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

The great nation of Egypt, the natural leader of the Arab world and its most populous country, has been reduced to nothing but a slave state of US, KSA, UAE, and Israel under Sisi.

First handing over islands to KSA, surrendering water rights to Ethiopian dams, and useless, pointless issues with Sudan (due to KSA,UAE pressure.)

I look for the day when the eagle of Salahuddin will rise again.



Actually, I have always observed that Egyptians, and North Africans in general, have a high degree of nostalgia for Ottoman empire days, and especially those of Muhammad Ali Pasha.

Don't fool yourself too much, if Turkey or Pakistan had taken an actual hostile stance against the US, I am talking actual hostile not the fake hostility of Erdogan (vocal words) then you would have seen some heavy damage upon you. Pakistan is still fed billions of US dollars for military arms and Turkey has not gone hostile against the US.


As for Egypt-KSA, those are 2 Arab states whom speak the same language, we don't see many disputes between one another. Sudan should be annexed by Egypt

When the great Saddam Hossain took a hostile stance against Ameriga all you fuggers including Pakistan become American buttbuddies, one day we'll Arabize you. Pakistanis will be Arabs.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Our Arab world leaders are animals and monkeys.

Ranging from that fake cunt alliance led by Pakistan (which is not needed as we have enough people, experience and arms) to other nonsense.


"ooo you Arabs can't fight" lol, because those that keep saying that happen to come from countries whom barely experienced any major wars recently thus there is no failures that can be observed. May the Mutawa'een overthrow all our governments and radicalize our people.

LOL who said Pakistan is leading an alliance? We are leading no Arab alliance. We only support KSA up to a certain extent. That is it. Our relations with the rest of the Arab world is lukewarm to say the least.

Arabs support India. They don't support Pakistan on Kashmir.

Don't fool yourself too much, if Turkey or Pakistan had taken an actual hostile stance against the US, I am talking actual hostile not the fake hostility of Erdogan (vocal words) then you would have seen some heavy damage upon you. Pakistan is still fed billions of US dollars for military arms and Turkey has not gone hostile against the US.


As for Egypt-KSA, those are 2 Arab states whom speak the same language, we don't see many disputes between one another. Sudan should be annexed by Egypt

When the great Saddam Hossain took a hostile stance against Ameriga all you fuggers including Pakistan become American buttbuddies, one day we'll Arabize you. Pakistanis will be Arabs.

Stop talking from your rear camel jockey cunt. Give actual concrete examples where Pakistan is today receiving billions from the US.

Pakistan receives absolutely no arms from the US. Certainly not billions worth of arms LOL Pakistan US relations are minimal. Both diplomatic and military relations. The US doesn't even have an ambassador in Pakistan. Trump ended all forms of aid and military to military relations between Pakistan and the US.

Pakistan has shown a massive middle finger to the US. We are fully allied with China. From CPEC to defence related projects. You need to wake up from the slumber silly bastard.

Don't mistake Pakistan with Arab nations. The last time I checked Arab leaders were screwing the Americans up their a$$. Some Arab nations receive billions of aid from the US. Pakistan wasn't occupied by the Americans. Your own country Iraq was occupied and turned to shit by the Americans. It hasn't recovered till this day. I can give you a list of other Arab countries that were occupied, raped and destroyed by the USA. Let the US try harm Pakistan and they will find out what the response will be. We are not Iraq or Syria that will lie down. We don't have Kurds that will pledge allegiance with the Americans. Pakistanis will collectively create another hole up the American rear. In fact, according to American admission we already did in Afghanistan LOL

Again, we don’t care what is your opinion about Sisi or Egypt .... We are not slaves except for allah .... not like you pathetic haters who can’t sauna word against US , be it Pakistan or Turkey ( who have delivered the Christian priest after a huge battle of BIG MOUTH) but we fought both US and Israel while you continued your big mouth support as usual.

You words covered with sweet words but filled with hate..... as for Othmans and their Turkish grandsons ..... they are a few minutes in the 7000 years of our great history ..... Turkey is a young impulsive nation don’t know how to live in peace with their neighbors .... even the Kurds who have no country (yet ) have a significant history than Turks who are in Anodal for just a few hundreds of years.

LOL Egypt receives billions in aid from Western nations including the US. Your entire tourism industry depends on Westerners. You share a border with Israel. You are as obedient as a lapdog to Western masters.

LOL at we fought both US and Israel. Who are you kidding here? You didn't even fight a US/Israeli cockroach.

 

[Shah_Deu]

a country's military strength is not negotiable, if the US would sell the F-35 to Egypt then that's good

since you are not allowed to have AMRAAMs, US will sell you the F-35s with hidden water tanks in the stealth bay to drop water for extinguishing forest fires.