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The United States understands that the Dragon is sharpening its claws. The constant stream of anti-China rhetoric from the Philippines will encourage Beijing to decapitate the Philippines when the opportunity arises. Everyone is waiting for the refurbished Philippine frigate (which is a 50-year-old American coast guard cutter) to fire its gun. That will be the start of the Sino-Philippine War.

As a reminder, all Chinese ballistic and cruise missiles are thermonuclear-capable. China is not a country that you mouth-off at if you value your existence.

When the 5,000km Underground Great Wall opens up for a thermonuclear strike, the U.S. will be quaking in its boots. There's enough thermonuclear firepower to level a continent in the 5,000km Underground Great Wall. It's full of DF-5B 10-MIRVed, DF-31A 3-MIRVed, and DF-41 10-MIRVed ICBMs.

Back off from China bashing, Philippine officials told | GulfNews.com

"Back off from China bashing, Philippine officials told

‘Shame China’ policy has contributed largely to the deteriorating relations between the Philippines and China

By Barbara Mae Dacanay, Bureau Chief
Published: 13:52 August 12, 2013

Manila: Senior officials of the US have advised Philippine officials, including President Benigno Aquino to back off from a rhetoric of China-bashing, a columnist said.

American officials have taken a strategy “not to vulgarise” the implementation of their policy to increase US presence in the Asia Pacific region, columnist Ellen Tordesillas of Inbox quoted former Philippine representative to the United Nations Lauro Baja as saying.

“They [American officials] want a stable region. They don’t want to prejudice their strategic relations with China, which is more important than claims [of six countries, including China’s] over rocks and shoals [in the South China Sea],” Baja was also quoted as saying.

Americans officials have also agreed with Philippine analysts’ view that the “Shame China” policy undertaken by Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario has contributed largely to the deteriorating relations between the Philippines and China, said Tordesillas, hinting this could affect the US strategy of rebalanced power in the Asia Pacific.

“Aquino can be stubborn. But he listens to America,” Tordesillas said.

As a proof of this, Foreign Affairs Secretary Del Rosario, admitted that his office has started “looking for a modus vivendi with China,” said Tordesillas, but did not give more details.

At the same time, “two weeks before the President’s State of the Nation Address [Sona in July 2013], US officials advised the DFA [department of foreign affairs] and Malacanang [the presidential palace] to tone down their anti-China rhetorics to reduce tension in the region.

“That explains why in last month’s Sona there was no mention, not a word, about conflict with China,” said the columnist.

This was surprising because of new reports stating that China has deployed again its vessels near Ayungin Shoal in the South China Sea.

Aquino’s 2013 Sona was relatively tame in comparison with his anti-China statements in his Sona in 2011 and 2012.

In 2012, Aquino decided to send back Philippine ships near Bajo de Masinloc or the Scarborrough Shoal in the South China Sea off northern Luzon, when he learned that Chinese vessels returned there following a resolved stand-off in May.

In response, “the US relayed the advice through defence officials that it would not be wise [for Malacanang, the presidential palace] to send back the ships to Bajo de Masinloc. The ships were not sent back,” said Tordesillas who quoted an unnamed source.

Because of China’s relentless show of maritime power in the South China Sea, the Philippines also filed a suit with the UN Arbitral Court to resolve the issue internationally.

The columnist did not categorically say if the US has agreed to this approach when she said: “The US has taken a neutral position in the conflicting claims in the South China Sea and has always been consistent in urging for a peaceful resolution of the conflicting claims.”

Earlier, US President Barack Obama announced the rebalancing of US military forces from Middle East to Asia, also called a Pivot to Asia policy. Analysts said it was meant to stem China’s hegemonic-tendencies in the region.

China, Taiwan, and Vietnam claim the whole of the South China Sea based on their historical rights on the said area. Brunei, Malaysia, and Philippines claim some parts of the Spratly Archipelago in the South China Sea, based on the United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) which grants 200 nautical miles exclusive economic zone to countries starting from their shores."
 
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The US needs to play a balancing act.

On the one hand, they want to send China a signal about who's boss. But, on the other, they don't want some trigger happy local cowboy to start something which could spiral out of control and drag the US into a military conflict.
 
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Wow again flase flaggers with no brain what can i say about leftist they hate America claiming to hate every imperialist but when it comes to china and her nationalist imperialist bros? nada wala (none) i think people call that hypocrisy:omghaha:
 
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Wow again flase flaggers with no brain what can i say about leftist they hate America claiming to hate every imperialist but when it comes to china and her nationalist imperialist bros? nada wala (none) i think people call that hypocrisy:omghaha:

And the Philippines claiming the Spratly Islands were discovered as "terra nullius" by Tomas Cloma, while there was a Republic of China garrison on the islands isn't imperialist. :omghaha: According to the Philippines, the military garrison on Taiping island (Itu Aba) which every other country has no problem acknowledging was nonexistent.
 
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Huh and why last time i check imeprial china is landmass and the Philippines is archipelago read UNCLOS oh wait?! taewan is not a recognized country is it? oh my that's problematic and since its not so i guess you need to solve that and other thing that whole garrison thing was made just after on so its illegal by international law and yes so as military force again imperialistic once again your foolish imeprialist arguments as atomic weight of nothing :omghaha: and you can go suck on it now
 
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Educate yourself Zero-Ding. UNCLOS only deals with marine boundaries. When there is a landmass, no matter how small, in that body of water, UBCLOS rules do not apply.

Spend more time to improve the marine traffics in your country, so you don;t have collisions every second day.
 
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Educate yourself Zero-Ding. UNCLOS only deals with marine boundaries. When there is a landmass, no matter how small, in that body of water, UBCLOS rules do not apply.

Spend more time to improve the marine traffics in your country, so you don;t have collisions every second day.

Really i think you forgot what was that again oh yes archipelago doctrine? please as if you know any better? if anything you and the rest of the anti filipino club need education more than i do so please stop being condescending you know it does not serve your counter at all well non you in that club of yours.
 
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UNCLOS never mention any archipelago doctrine. It does mention archipelago water which agrees with what I said.

Clean your glasses and read the UNCLOS again carefully.
 
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really now check again
The Archipelagic Doctrine specifies that an archipelago shall be regarded as a single unit and that its territorial jurisdiction includes the waters around, between and connecting the islands regardless of their breadth and dimensions. It also includes the insular and submarine areas. Under this doctrine, the basis of determining the boundaries of the archipelago should be the straight line connected by points in the outer islands or periphery of the archipelago.

This doctrine is reflected under Article 1 (National Territory) of the 1987 Philippine Constitution. Thus, The Philippine Territory is exempted from the 3 mile (now 12 mile) rule.

The Archipelagic Doctrine was based on the works of the late Senator Arturo Tolentino. He presented it in 1956 but it was approved only in 1982 by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas (UNCLOS). It was originally signed by 130 countries.

case and point
 
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Huh and why last time i check imeprial china is landmass and the Philippines is archipelago read UNCLOS oh wait?! taewan is not a recognized country is it? oh my that's problematic and since its not so i guess you need to solve that and other thing that whole garrison thing was made just after on so its illegal by international law and yes so as military force again imperialistic once again your foolish imeprialist arguments as atomic weight of nothing :omghaha: and you can go suck on it now

For everyone who is not a Filipino, I present the facts:

The Spratly Islands were disputed between France and the Republic of China in the 1930s. Japan invaded the islands and after the Japanese were defeated, the Republic of China was designated to receive the Japanese surrenders in the Spratlys at the end of WW 2 in 1945. The Republic of China then established garrisons on the islands in 1945 before Vietnam was even an independent country. The Republic of China (Taiwan) has the oldest military presence and claims on the islands. The American colony known as the Philippines did not claim the Spratly islands or even take notice of them before independence in 1946. After independence, the Filipino Tomas Cloma suddenly claimed he "discovered" the already occupied Spratly islands, and based on this claim the Marcos government in the Philippines (the butcherer of tens of thousands of Moro civlians) claimed the Spratlys in the 1970s.

Spratly Islands (reefs, South China Sea) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

Vietnam Joins the World - Google knygos

Where in the World is the Philippines?

The Law of the Sea and Northeast Asia
 
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really now check again
The Archipelagic Doctrine specifies that an archipelago shall be regarded as a single unit and that its territorial jurisdiction includes the waters around, between and connecting the islands regardless of their breadth and dimensions. It also includes the insular and submarine areas. Under this doctrine, the basis of determining the boundaries of the archipelago should be the straight line connected by points in the outer islands or periphery of the archipelago.

This doctrine is reflected under Article 1 (National Territory) of the 1987 Philippine Constitution. Thus, The Philippine Territory is exempted from the 3 mile (now 12 mile) rule.

The Archipelagic Doctrine was based on the works of the late Senator Arturo Tolentino. He presented it in 1956 but it was approved only in 1982 by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas (UNCLOS). It was originally signed by 130 countries.

case and point
This is one of the common misconception Filipino made regarding China's 9-dotted claim and the jurisdiction surrounding UNCLOS. It's important to understand that during the ratification process of UNCLOS, China made a "key" diplomatic note to the UN insisting that China entitled to the adjacent water and continental shelf from the few Spratly's Islands that China administered and any overlapping water with the Philippine archipelago's EEZ shall be resolved through diplomatic channel. This means when certain Islands belong to China's jurisdiction "overlapping" with water from the Philippine archipelago, UNCLOS cannot superseded the very basic foundation of China-Philippine share water dispute. This very key point the Philippine continues to dismiss or shall I say, "unintelligibly" cannot comprehend UNCLOS law, in which case, China is not responsible for Philippine's misinformation. Do I need to pull out this note and agreement between China-Philippine or China-Vietnam?
 
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This is one of the common misconception Filipino made regarding China's 9-dotted claim and the jurisdiction surrounding UNCLOS. It's important to understand that during the ratification process of UNCLOS, China made a "key" diplomatic note to the UN insisting that China entitled to the adjacent water and continental shelf from the few Spratly's Islands that China administered and any overlapping water with the Philippine archipelago's EEZ shall be resolved through diplomatic channel. This means when certain Islands belong to China's jurisdiction "overlapping" with water from the Philippine archipelago, UNCLOS cannot superseded the very basic foundation of China-Philippine share water dispute. This very key point the Philippine continues to dismiss or shall I say, "unintelligibly" cannot comprehend UNCLOS law, in which case, China is not responsible for Philippine's misinformation. Do I need to pull out this note and agreement between China-Philippine or China-Vietnam?

Wow again land mass archipelago no brainier really!
 
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For everyone who is not a Filipino, I present the facts:

The Spratly Islands were disputed between France and the Republic of China in the 1930s. Japan invaded the islands and after the Japanese were defeated, the Republic of China was designated to receive the Japanese surrenders in the Spratlys at the end of WW 2 in 1945. The Republic of China then established garrisons on the islands in 1945 before Vietnam was even an independent country. The Republic of China (Taiwan) has the oldest military presence and claims on the islands. The American colony known as the Philippines did not claim the Spratly islands or even take notice of them before independence in 1946. After independence, the Filipino Tomas Cloma suddenly claimed he "discovered" the already occupied Spratly islands, and based on this claim the Marcos government in the Philippines (the butcherer of tens of thousands of Moro civlians) claimed the Spratlys in the 1970s.

Spratly Islands (reefs, South China Sea) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

Vietnam Joins the World - Google knygos

Where in the World is the Philippines?

The Law of the Sea and Northeast Asia

Wow allow to say this

Taewan is not a country

the republic of china which is taewan loss and the commie imperials are just using this to get resources to fed their power base

and the case is now in the ITCLOS and archipelago doctrine covers much of it so your continuous loligaing is useless and baseless due to the fact again one your ancestors traded and never ruled the area
 
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lmfao, stop posting zerowing, you're not sentient, let alone literate. no doubt all the pinoy lurkers here feel humiliated that out of all the possible candidates for defending the banana republic they call home, it had to be you.
 
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