U.S. Seizes Iranian Fuel Cargoes for First Time

[yavar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295364138328178688

 

[ashool]

Many ships fly under different flags. Especially for a country with a sanctions busting network. So a ship flying with a different flag doesn’t mean much about who the owner is. Iran has tens if not hundreds of front companies to disguise itself.

Not saying this is the case here per se, but just saying relying on flag of ship is not reliable.

are you became healthy now why when u find out reality dont apologize for your fake news like ur bosses in that shitty flag of urs and if not and still harts go to fire rescue maybe they can do some thing for you rembo or pompio s son lol

 

[mohsen]

Currently Iran has no government, some traitors and liars and nothing more!

اعتراض حقوقی ایران به توقیف سوخت صادراتی به ونزوئلا | پایگاه اطلاع رسانی رجا

 

[Pandora]

New Cold war is flaring up and such occurrences will become normal. Expect Iran to capture few tankers around straits of Hormuz or at least blow them up in unexplained circumstances. Major events are creating a clear divide among-st US led and China led block. With US and EU economies in $hit tatters they want another war or at least a cold war to slow down economic growth of their competitors. In its current state China will over take US with 5-6 years.

 

[Metal 0-1]

 

[Metal 0-1]

 

[Dariush the Great]

Currently Iran has no government, some traitors and liars and nothing more!

اعتراض حقوقی ایران به توقیف سوخت صادراتی به ونزوئلا | پایگاه اطلاع رسانی رجا

Hala agar Ahmadinejad ya yeki mesle un bud chekar mikard ? chekar mitunestan bekonan ?

 

[mohsen]

Hala agar Ahmadinejad ya yeki mesle un bud chekar mikard ? chekar mitunestan bekonan ?

Doing nothing (treason) would have been enough. there are people who will do their job.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Doing nothing (treason) would have been enough. there are people who will do their job.

So why are those people who can do the job sitting quiet on their *** and doing nothing ? How does boarding a fuel tanker and then releasing it a few hours later add anything meaningful to Iran's deterrence ?

Do you also know Rouhani has no control over Iran's armed forces, special forces etc ? You gotta grab the collar of Khamenei and his inner circle asking why they are not responding at all.

 

[mohsen]

So why are those people who can do the job sitting quiet on their *** and doing nothing ? How does boarding a fuel tanker and then releasing it a few hours later add anything meaningful to Iran's deterrence ?

Do you also know Rouhani has no control over Iran's armed forces, special forces etc ? You gotta grab the collar of Khamenei and his inner circle asking why they are not responding at all.

Rouhani is the president and the head of NSC, so yes he can ask the IRGC to release them and they will do it. it has happened several times before and nobody denies these FACTS!

 

[Dariush the Great]

Rouhani is the president and the head of NSC, so yes he can ask the IRGC to release them and they will do it. it has happened several times before and nobody denies these FACTS!

False! IRGC only answers to the supreme leader's office and the leader himself.

 

[SalarHaqq]

False! IRGC only answers to the supreme leader's office and the leader himself.

The Supreme Leader's effective powers and margin of action are not defined merely by legal (constitutional) regulations, but also by the reality of the exercice and distribution of power accross a variety of centers in the realms of politics, economy, culture and society.

Defeatist and western-apologetic liberals exercice control over a large share of all these realms. Any radical action by the Leader will be met by a counter-reaction from liberals, who have invested all spheres of Iranian politics, society, economy and culture. Before acting, the Leader must take into account and integrate this reaction into his calculations.

The 2009 "Green Movement" fitna, during which the capital Tehran was gripped for no less than 6 months by system-threatening unrest at the instigation of dissident establishment liberals, deeply shattered the Islamic Republic by proving and illustrating the capacity of the western-apologetic fifth column. Faezeh Rafsanjani and other moderate or reformist figures repeatedly threatened, either directly or indirectly, to have people descend into the streets in case of major disagreements with their political rivals on decision making. In many ways, assorted domestic opponents are a far greater threat to Iran than the US and zionist regimes will ever manage to be.

So, it makes little sense to blame perceivedly insufficient boldness in the confrontation against external enemies on the Leader, while at the same time ignoring the fact that the Leader has no absolute powers and that he is facing not only said external enemies (a global superpower no less) but also a domestic fifth column that is constantly threatening to destabilize the entire system and thereby to put Iran's survival at risk if and when the defenders of Iranian sovereignty go too far in their actions.

Those who claim to be on the "eghtedaar geraa" line and rightfully criticize the liberal Rohani administration for its defeatist policies vis a vis the west, must understand that the only way for the Leader and the IRGC to be able to act more forcefully against foreign enemies is to reduce the influence of liberals within the system. Otherwise it will not be possible.

Also, before criticizing well-intentioned authorities, it is necessary to ask oneself if one did one's part at one's own modest level. A good way of freeing up the Leader's and IRGC's hands against constraints imposed on them by influential liberals, would be to help increase popular support for the former. With increased popular support, Leader and IRGC will be able to neutralize liberal blackmailing against firmer reaction to Iran's existential enemies. In other words, if one wishes to see more action by Iran, instead of painting Leader / IRGC and the liberals with the same brush, one must learn to throw support behind the only parties able and willing to take more decisive action but whose hands are tied to some extent by other parties unwilling to see Iran take such a route.

In the same way, anyone criticizing Leader or IRGC alongside the liberals for "not reacting enough" to external foes, should make sure to take part in elections and to vote for "eghtedaar geraa" candidates. They may volunteer with the Basij and law enforcement to control liberal-instigated riots aimed at pressuring Leader and IRGC into moderating their policies of resistance against the zio-Americans.

 

[Dariush the Great]

The Supreme Leader's effective powers and margin of action are not defined merely by legal (constitutional) regulations, but also by the reality of the exercice and distribution of power accross a variety of centers in the realms of politics, economy, culture and society.

Defeatist and western-apologetic liberals exercice control over a large share of all these realms. Any radical action by the Leader will be met by a counter-reaction from liberals, who have invested all spheres of Iranian politics, society, economy and culture. Before acting, the Leader must take into account and integrate this reaction into his calculations.

The 2009 "Green Movement" fitna, during which the capital Tehran was gripped for no less than 6 months by system-threatening unrest at the instigation of dissident establishment liberals, deeply shattered the Islamic Republic by proving and illustrating the capacity of the western-apologetic fifth column. Faezeh Rafsanjani and other moderate or reformist figures repeatedly threatened, either directly or indirectly, to have people descend into the streets in case of major disagreements with their political rivals on decision making. In many ways, assorted domestic opponents are a far greater threat to Iran than the US and zionist regimes will ever manage to be.

So, it makes little sense to blame perceivedly insufficient boldness in the confrontation against external enemies on the Leader, while at the same time ignoring the fact that the Leader has no absolute powers and that he is facing not only said external enemies (a global superpower no less) but also a domestic fifth column that is constantly threatening to destabilize the entire system and thereby to put Iran's survival at risk if and when the defenders of Iranian sovereignty go too far in their actions.

Those who claim to be on the "eghtedaar geraa" line and rightfully criticize the liberal Rohani administration for its defeatist policies vis a vis the west, must understand that the only way for the Leader and the IRGC to be able to act more forcefully against foreign enemies is to reduce the influence of liberals within the system. Otherwise it will not be possible.

Also, before criticizing well-intentioned authorities, it is necessary to ask oneself if one did one's part at one's own modest level. A good way of freeing up the Leader's and IRGC's hands against constraints imposed on them by influential liberals, would be to help increase popular support for the former. With increased popular support, Leader and IRGC will be able to neutralize liberal blackmailing against firmer reaction to Iran's existential enemies. In other words, if one wishes to see more action by Iran, instead of painting Leader / IRGC and the liberals with the same brush, one must learn to throw support behind the only parties able and willing to take more decisive action but whose hands are tied to some extent by other parties unwilling to see Iran take such a route.

In the same way, anyone criticizing Leader or IRGC alongside the liberals for "not reacting enough" to external foes, should make sure to take part in elections and to vote for "eghtedaar geraa" candidates. They may volunteer with the Basij and law enforcement to control liberal-instigated riots aimed at pressuring Leader and IRGC into moderating their policies of resistance against the zio-Americans.

Well, you are right that opposing forces hinder the supreme leader and his allies in their effort to effectively combat the Israeli,American agression. But if their struggle is sincere they will not let any sellout moderate to throw mud.

I am afraid that the resistance bloc in the Iranian estabilishment are also getting affected by tv rating and how others think of them. They should not care and release the brakes and go full steam on the enemies inside and outside just like what Khomeini did. If Khomeini had the power of today's Iran back in the 80's at his disposal he would have done much more for the country and regain its reputation. Current leadership is weak because of inaction.

So the capability is for sure there. Only the missiles stationed in Bandar Abbas for example is capable of totally destroying few Persian gulf states. What we lack is a modern-day Khomeini to warn others that Iran today is not the Iran of 1953.. it will break the jaw of any agressor.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Well, you are right that opposing forces hinder the supreme leader and his allies in their effort to effectively combat the Israeli,American agression. But if their struggle is sincere they will not let any sellout moderate to throw mud.

I am afraid that the resistance bloc in the Iranian estabilishment are also getting affected by tv rating and how others think of them. They should not care and release the brakes and go full steam on the enemies inside and outside just like what Khomeini did. If Khomeini had the power of today's Iran back in the 80's at his disposal he would have done much more for the country and regain its reputation. Current leadership is weak because of inaction.

So the capability is for sure there. Only the missiles stationed in Bandar Abbas for example is capable of totally destroying few Persian gulf states. What we lack is a modern-day Khomeini to warn others that Iran today is not the Iran of 1953.. it will break the jaw of any agressor.

Well, I would disagree, because the situation nowadays is hugely different from the 80's.

1) First of all during the 80's, in-house liberals ready to bow to the west and unwiling to resist, were weak and concentrated among marginal, ancient political parties with very little popular backing, who had played a secondary role in the Revolution. Namely, Mehdi Baazargaan's Nehzate Aazaadi and their thoroughly liberal melli-mazhabyoon movement. They had so little influence that sidelining them was not an issue for Imam Khomeini, and presented no major political risks.

2) Those who are adhering to liberalism and rejecting resistance against Iran's enemies today, are none other than the former Islamic "radical left", joined by the "centrist pragmatist" faction formerly led by Hashemi Rafsanjaani. In other words, one of the three major establishment factions (the Islamic "left") converted overnight from a most radical version of anti-imperialism and anti-zionism to a western-apologetic, defeatist position. This happened right after the Montazeri / Mehdi Haashemi affair, i. e. shortly before Imam Khomeini's rehlat.

3) Today Iranian society itself is not the same. Every Iranian "eghtedaar garaa", before joining the "barandaaz" front under the pretext that the ledership is not doing enough against Iran's foreign enemies, should realize that nearly half their compatriots do not have patriotic views to begin with. Unless in a political system that is extremely repressive or even totalitarian, no leader can unobstructedly put into practice a patriotic or anti-imperialist agenda when half the population oppose said agenda.

* Revolutionary fervor and radicalism, which lasted for the entire decade of the 80's, has lost steam. Which from a sociological point of view is quite normal for any revolutionary event by the way.

* There was an imposed war in the 80's. This automatically strengthened the patriotic, sovereignist and anti-imperialist front against liberal, western-apologetic elements within the system. Thus the Supreme Leader of the time faced far less antagonism from within the system in pursuing the goals of the revolution than the current Supreme Leader does.

* Society largely moved towards liberalism. Liberal, pro-western and pro-secularist ideas were injected into Iranian society by intensive 24/7 propaganda from foreign-controlled media (satellite TV and internet-based blogs, websites and later "social media"), on a scale never seen before in human history. Watch Omid Dana's program where he compares the number of messages posted by the different language services of the BBC on Instagram, Twitter and so on: the BBC's Persian language accounts are posting something like ten times more propaganda than their second most prolific foreign service.

Now had the IR radically prevented the use of satellite dishes and receivers, had it cut Iran off from the internet (because building a national internet network not only takes time, it is being actively obstructed by in-house establishment liberals), then many of those who complain about insufficient reaction to the US, would complain about a lack of free access to international media.

Therefore, the Leader is facing far greater opposition from Iranian society when it comes to pursuing his anti-imperialist program, and liberals have it much easier mobilizing people to counter the Leader and the IRGC when needed, like the 2009 "Green Movement" fitna proved.

So clearly, the current Supreme Leader has a far more restricted margin of action when it comes to implementing revolutionary policies compared to his predecessor because domestic circumstances - both on the social and political levels, are incomparable to what they used to be in the 80's.

Considering all the above, we can even say it is nearly a wonder how ayatollah Khamenei managed to maintain the overall revolutionary, anti-imperial and anti-zionist orientation of the Islamic Republic, which is still the official norm, and how he prevented liberals from taking over altogether. In fact, very few persons would have been capable of such an extraordinary feat, which is why many patriotic and Muslim Iranians consider that history will later record his name as Khamenei the Great, alongside figures such as Darius, Shah Abbas or Amir Kabir.

@Raghfarm007

 

[Sineva]

The us has it seems finally begun the offloading of some of the pirated fuel cargoes,interestingly there apparently have been legal challenges made in the us courts contesting the "seizure" of these cargoes by their legal owners,this may account for the long delays in offloading some of these cargoes.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-unloads-confiscated-iranian-fuel-at-new-york-harbor/

BEIRUT, LEBANON (10:00 A.M.) – Ship tracking data from Refinitiv said one of two tankers carrying Iranian fuel seized by the United States was unloaded in New York on Thursday, ending a three-month journey.
In July, the U.S. Department of Justice confiscated 1.1 million barrels of fuel on board four privately owned tankers bound for Venezuela, as part of Washington’s efforts to disrupt trade between the two countries subject to sanctions.
Ship tracking data showed that 557,000 barrels of gasoline were unloaded in New York from the Singapore-flagged Maersk Progress tanker, after loading in Sri Lanka on July 4.
A U.S. Department of Justice spokesman declined to comment, the Reuters News Agency reported.
Maersk Progress was due to arrive in Houston last month, but has changed course.
The Euroforce, a second tanker carrying some of the confiscated fuel, has been anchored off the coast in Texas since September 9th.
The owners of four Iranian fuel shipments challenged the confiscation before a U.S. District Court, affirming their right to control shipments that they said were destined for clients in Peru and Colombia, and a lawyer for the companies said he had no knowledge of the discharge.