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U.S., Russia, Saudi and Turkey mull new Syria transition ideas

The Ba'ath Party , was established in 7 April 1947 by Michel Aflaq, Salah al-Din al-Bitar and Zaki al-Arsuzi in Syria.

And Baath party was supported by USSR and later Baath party was spread into Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan etc.

In 1970's Anwar Saadat was the first to move away from Baath Party which resulted in the end of Cold war in Middle East.


 
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Russia, U.S. discuss organizing Syria political process
3:41 p.m. EDT October 24, 2015

DAMASCUS, Syria — Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Saturday discussed ways of organizing a political process between the Syrian government and its opponents, a day after the two met in Vienna along with the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

The top diplomats from the four countries put forward new ideas to revive a failed push for a political transition in Syria that would end the country's civil war, Kerry said after Friday's meeting. But they remained deeply divided over the future of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

The follow-up telephone discussion between Lavrov and Kerry was initiated by Kerry, the Russian foreign ministry said.

According to U.S. State Department spokesman John Kirby, Kerry and Lavrov "focused on their shared pursuit of options to achieve ?a political transition and discussed the potential for future multi-lateral meetings on the topic." ?

Separately, Lavrov said Saturday that Russia was ready to support the Free Syrian Army in its fight against the Islamic State group. The Free Syrian Army is the main Western-backed opposition group fighting Assad.

"We are ready to include the patriotic opposition, among them the Free Syrian Army, to support them from the air," he said in an interview aired Saturday on state television channel Rossiya-1.

But he said the Americans would not give Moscow the locations of the opposition group and the locations of terrorist groups. He said the U.S. was refusing to coordinate their anti-terrorist campaign in Syria, calling it a "big mistake."

"We are ready for such coordination as thoroughly as possible," he said.

Syria is in its fifth year of a civil war that has killed hundreds of thousands, spurred a massive refugee crisis in Europe and led to the emergence of the Islamic State group and Russia's direct military intervention.

Russia says it is targeting IS and other terrorists in Syria, but most of the Russian airstrikes have focused on areas where the militants do not have an active presence.

Syria's parliament speaker said Saturday that Syria, along with its allies Russia and Iran, is working to push forward a political solution in parallel with the fight against terrorism on the ground, by activating dialogue with the "national opposition" that rejects foreign intervention in Syria's internal affairs.

The comments by Jihad al-Laham came during a meeting in Damascus with a visiting Russian parliamentary delegation. He said Syrian-Russian coordination "has started achieving results" by driving out terrorism.

Meanwhile, the United Nations said Saturday it had mistakenly sent hundreds of boxes of expired biscuits to besieged civilians in rebel-held areas near Damascus as part of a relief convoy earlier this month.

A total of 320 out of 650 boxes of high energy biscuits sent to Zabadani and Madaya on Oct. 18 had expired a month earlier.

"We can confirm that this was the result of an unfortunate human error during the loading process," Yacoub El Hillo, the U.N. Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator in Syria, said in a statement Saturday.

He said the U.N. Syria team is taking the issue "very seriously" and working with its humanitarian partners to rectify the situation, but added that medical sources had confirmed that eating the expired biscuits would pose no health threats.

The aid convoy that went into Zabadani and Madaya was a rare instance of assistance reaching besieged areas near Damascus during a cease-fire between Syrian government forces and their allies and insurgents.

The U.N. statement came after concerns were raised that children consuming the expired biscuits could become sick.

El Hillo said the U.N. has sent a request to all parties involved, including the Syrian government, to facilitate immediate access to the areas to replace the biscuits and allow medical personnel to examine and treat potential patients.

Meanwhile, World Health Organization officials said no new polio cases have been reported in the Middle East for more than 18 months despite continuing conflict, declining immunization rates and mass population displacement, leading experts to believe an outbreak has been successfully halted.

The outbreak which officials say paralyzed 36 children in Syria and two in Iraq between October 2013 and April 2014 prompted fears of a major epidemic and was followed by the largest ever immunization response in the history of the Middle East.

Heintz reported from Moscow. Associated Press writer Zeina Karam in Beirut contributed to this report.
 
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The pathetic Muslim and Arab leaders have betrayed Syria and its people. They have close to no credibility left.

Our beloved and ancient Sham is violated by a bunch of vodka and heroin addicts while the pathetic leaders are looking at this joke of affairs like school girls scared of confrontation.

Syrians are on their own, sadly. Our glorious ancestors would be turning in their graves if they saw the situation of today. From cradle of civilization to cradle of retardation. Of course this is extremely harsh, but man, have the leaders since WW2 been largely pathetic in our part of the world. Our worst enemy could not have envisioned this.

If the cockroaches wanted something decisive to be done they would/could easily have done that long ago. But they are content with status quo. Their time will come though.

Finally you have realised the nature of the Arab and other Muslim leaders who are running the affairs of the Muslim states. That is the first step. Removing the obsolete and bringing to power honest and competent leaders is the next step and of course, that is the difficult part.
 
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The pathetic Muslim and Arab leaders have betrayed Syria and its people. They have close to no credibility left.

Our beloved and ancient Sham is violated by a bunch of vodka and heroin addicts while the pathetic leaders are looking at this joke of affairs like school girls scared of confrontation.

Syrians are on their own, sadly. Our glorious ancestors would be turning in their graves if they saw the situation of today. From cradle of civilization to cradle of retardation. Of course this is extremely harsh, but man, have the leaders since WW2 been largely pathetic in our part of the world. Our worst enemy could not have envisioned this.

If the cockroaches wanted something decisive to be done they would/could easily have done that long ago. But they are content with status quo. Their time will come though.
Remember the first crusade. We had rulers almost as bad as today but with a barely functioning back bone. What we lack is unity on the ground and frankly we are responsible for our own shortcomings.

Assad should remain after everything :) he solved the problem which he did not create Russia will make sure of it he remains and with Iran
How did he solve the problem and not create it.
Seriously what do u know about him and his fatger and their clan and what they have done.
 
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The pathetic Muslim and Arab leaders have betrayed Syria and its people. They have close to no credibility left.

Our beloved and ancient Sham is violated by a bunch of vodka and heroin addicts while the pathetic leaders are looking at this joke of affairs like school girls scared of confrontation.

Syrians are on their own, sadly. Our glorious ancestors would be turning in their graves if they saw the situation of today. From cradle of civilization to cradle of retardation. Of course this is extremely harsh, but man, have the leaders since WW2 been largely pathetic in our part of the world. Our worst enemy could not have envisioned this.

If the cockroaches wanted something decisive to be done they would/could easily have done that long ago. But they are content with status quo. Their time will come though.

What do you want arab leaders to do?Attack russian aircraft?
They are already providing arms and money.
 
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What do you want arab leaders to do?Attack russian aircraft?
They are already providing arms and money.

Uncle sam and its minions have helped Asad by creating ISIS. If ISIS wasn't there Russia wouldn't have the excuse to interfere and surely the illegitimate Asad regime would collapse.
 
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regime change back fired in Iraq as well as Syria....now American press is calling Saddam the good guys with a bad side!

I think here you are referring to the statement issued by Mr Trump.

That statement was linked to immigration to United States because of the wars there , at first he said that he will restrict immigration and then after 5 days he talked about he will welcome immigration of talented immigrants.

Foreign ministers arrive for day two of talks on resolving Syria crisis - watch on - uatoday.tv

13:50 Oct. 30, 2015
Tensions between Russia and the West high over Moscow's backing for Syrian President Assad


Foreign minister of the United States, France, Germany and Britain are in Vienna for day two of talks aimed at ending the conflict in Syria.

They are now joined by the EU's foreign policy chief Frederica Mogherini after questions were raised over Europe's role in the process.

Federica Mogherini, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs: "Let's see if the work we have done in coordination with the U.S. with Russia in these days in this weeks allows us to open this political space and create the possibility for a follow up for a beginning of a process that can lead us to political transition in Syria. That is the purpose of the meetings."


Diplomats say a possible outcome of the Vienna talks is a plan for pushing the Syria negotiations forward.

Divisions between Moscow and the West over the Middle Eastern State have deepened since Russia began bombing opposition fighters last month.
 
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The pathetic Muslim and Arab leaders have betrayed Syria and its people. They have close to no credibility left.

Our beloved and ancient Sham is violated by a bunch of vodka and heroin addicts while the pathetic leaders are looking at this joke of affairs like school girls scared of confrontation.

Syrians are on their own, sadly. Our glorious ancestors would be turning in their graves if they saw the situation of today. From cradle of civilization to cradle of retardation. Of course this is extremely harsh, but man, have the leaders since WW2 been largely pathetic in our part of the world. Our worst enemy could not have envisioned this.

If the cockroaches wanted something decisive to be done they would/could easily have done that long ago. But they are content with status quo. Their time will come though.


I don't think so ! ;)

"Tel est pris qui croyait prendre".

Quelles sont les conséquences de ces frappes sur le terrain ?


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Uncle sam and its minions have helped Asad by creating ISIS. If ISIS wasn't there Russia wouldn't have the excuse to interfere and surely the illegitimate Asad regime would collapse.

Who are ISIS ?

Ex Baathists are in ranks of ISIS and are being used by all the powers.
 
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The pathetic Muslim and Arab leaders have betrayed Syria and its people. They have close to no credibility left.

Our beloved and ancient Sham is violated by a bunch of vodka and heroin addicts while the pathetic leaders are looking at this joke of affairs like school girls scared of confrontation.

Syrians are on their own, sadly. Our glorious ancestors would be turning in their graves if they saw the situation of today. From cradle of civilization to cradle of retardation. Of course this is extremely harsh, but man, have the leaders since WW2 been largely pathetic in our part of the world. Our worst enemy could not have envisioned this.

If the cockroaches wanted something decisive to be done they would/could easily have done that long ago. But they are content with status quo. Their time will come though.
Heroin addict , well who was the guy who was arrested several day ago in Lebanon . with 2 tons of narcotics ?
I wonder how much your monarchs are willing to pay Lebanon to fix the inconvenience ?
and I also wonder who is those glorious ancestor exactly , certainly not the girls who were buried at the birth time ,
or you mean the guys who ate camphor and wondered why the salt taste so?
the ones whom you call glorious ancestors were nothing but vassals of Roman and Persian empire who become
united by Islam at the time that long war weakened Roman and Persian empire. they were nothing but some
nomad tribal conquerors who could not ran the state and had to ask roman and Iranian to run it even 200 years
after the Islam .and later that Glorious Abbasid dynasty Gloriously become the vassal of Al-Booyed as a matter
of fact the Abbasid become Vassals of Iranian when we deposed and Killed the appointed caliph ,Al-Amin and
put Mamoon on his throne.

the only glorious ones with rich history I see Are people of Yemen ,Syria , Jordan , Lebanon and Iraq the rest were
just some nomads and when you look at the situation right now you see those glorious leaders of descendant of
those glorious nomads right now are busy destroying the History of Yemen , Syria and Iraq

Who are ISIS ?

Ex Baathists are in ranks of ISIS and are being used by all the powers.
Well after failed Arab Republic Syria Baath and Iraq Baath separated their way and Egypt completely renounce Baath party.
 
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Well after failed Arab Republic Syria Baath and Iraq Baath separated their way and Egypt completely renounce Baath party.

Baath party was backed by USSR during the cold war period be it Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Egypt.
 
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Who are ISIS ?

Ex Baathists are in ranks of ISIS and are being used by all the powers.

The question should be not who are manning ISIS because anybody can see that, it should be who are supplying weapons to ISIS!
 
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The question should be not who are manning ISIS because anybody can see that, it should be who are supplying weapons to ISIS!


No one supplies arms to ISIS. ISIS uses some captured arms. That's it. That's why their casualty is so high.
 
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The question should be not who are manning ISIS because anybody can see that, it should be who are supplying weapons to ISIS!

Ex Baathists have stored billions in oil deals and even now according to news reports earning millions by selling crude oil on daily basis.

No one supplies arms to ISIS. ISIS uses some captured arms. That's it. That's why their casualty is so high.

Baathists do have weapons supply lines from Russia and China.

More than 80 percent of the ammunition was manufactured in China, the former Soviet Union according to New york Times

According to the fact sheet, multiple armed groups in both Iraq and Syria now are in possession of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS). These are highly mobile shoulder-mounted weapons that can be used to down aircraft. Generally, these MANPADS were designed by Chinese, Russia, or Soviet weapon makers.
 
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