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Some retired F-22 pilot was flying a passenger plane and accidentally pulled off a cobra manuever. Hence the strange contrail.
U.S. Pentagon Can't Explain Mystery Missile Off California Coast
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Looks like the contrail of a booster rocket.
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Does This Picture Prove That The California Missile Was Actually A Commercial Jet?
Does This Picture Prove That The California Missile Was Actually A Commercial Jet?
Does This Picture Prove That The California Missile Was Actually A Commercial Jet?
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Yes, I was about to post that. Its just an optical illusion, just a commercial jet.
Reminds me of all the 9-11 videos where people saw script in smoke, ghosts and what not!
Three possible explanations..
1.It was an Al-Qaeda operation that involved the usage of a new long range rocket developed by disaffected engineers working at Khan Research Laboratories in Pakistan.. this operation was financed by the Indonesian girlfriend of one of Bin laden's brothers using money she received as "hush benefits"..The money was sent using the hawala system to a Taliban head honcho who runs a part time fried fish stall in Peshawar's Qissa Khwani bazaar with an ex ISI agent as a shareholder.
The men boarded their luxury yaght in Dubai after spending two days and two nights(inclusive of breakfast at $699) at the Burj al-Arab hotel..
After making contact with a cuban agent at cape horn they boarded a makeshift log raft for the final journey towards the American east coast to carry out their nefarious designs...
2. It was a couple of amateur rocket freaks who wanted to test out a new design but could not get the permission to do so.
3.That or a starving Shark ate a barrel of gasoline and
eventually he had to pass gas.. and is now the world record holder for "longest time spent by a shark out of water"
I personally think it was #3..
1.It was an Al-Qaeda operation that involved the usage of a new long range rocket developed by disaffected engineers working at Khan Research Laboratories in Pakistan.. this operation was financed by the Indonesian girlfriend of one of Bin laden's brothers using money she received as "hush benefits"..The money was sent using the hawala system to a Taliban head honcho who runs a part time fried fish stall in Peshawar's Qissa Khwani bazaar with an ex ISI agent as a shareholder.
The men boarded their luxury yaght in Dubai after spending two days and two nights(inclusive of breakfast at $699) at the Burj al-Arab hotel..
After making contact with a cuban agent at cape horn they boarded a makeshift log raft for the final journey towards the American east coast to carry out their nefarious designs...
2. It was a couple of amateur rocket freaks who wanted to test out a new design but could not get the permission to do so.
3.That or a starving Shark ate a barrel of gasoline and
eventually he had to pass gas.. and is now the world record holder for "longest time spent by a shark out of water"
I personally think it was #3..
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Air Force Command Brings Focus to Nuclear Enterprise
By Cheryl Pellerin
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 9, 2010 Over the past 15 months, the Air Force has built from scratch a model new command that will sustain and modernize U.S. intercontinental ballistic missile wings and the nuclear-capable bomber fleet, the general who leads the new command said today.
Some people have likened that to trying to build an airplane while actually having to fly it, Air Force Lt. Gen. Frank G. Klotz told a group of defense reporters here. And at times, it has seemed like that to us.
Global Strike Command is the Air Forces first new major command in 27 years. Its also part of a larger strategy that Air Force Secretary Michael B. Donley and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton A. Schwartz drafted to bring focus and attention back to the nuclear enterprise, Klotz said.
The command, activated in August 2009 with headquarters at Barksdale Air Force Base, La., has gone from 47 permanent staff and an equal number of temporary-duty staff to a staff of 800, plus 100 contractors.
We had to publish the guidance, the instructions and the checklists that govern activities inside the bomber and the ICBM worlds, Klotz said. As it turned out, we had to write nearly 200 of these documents that were several hundred pages long and ensure that they got trained and implemented in the field. Its a pretty daunting task.
The command is responsible for three ICBM wings, two B-52 Stratofortress wings and the only B-2 Spirit wing. About 23,000 people assigned to the command work in locations around the world.
For the first time since the end of the Cold War, Klotz said, the Air Force legs of the nuclear triad -- which is composed of land-based ICBMs, strategic missiles and ballistic-missile submarines -- are back under one command.
During the Cold War, Strategic Air Command was responsible for the Air Force segments of the triad.
At the end of the Cold War, those responsibilities were divested, Klotz said. The bombers went to Air Combat Command and the ICBMs went to Air Force Space Command.
That meant two different commands with two different commanders and two different organizations with different priorities and different resources were focusing on the Air Force nuclear enterprise, Klotz said.
Our thought was that there was some fraying in the nuclear enterprise as a result, he added, and to bring focus back to the enterprise, a number of steps were taken, including creation of the Air Force Global Strike Command.
In April 2009, President Barack Obama told a large audience in Hradčany Square in Prague in the Czech Republic that the United States would take concrete steps toward helping to create a world without nuclear weapons.
We will reduce the role of nuclear weapons in our national security strategy and urge others to do the same, Obama said, adding that as long as such weapons exist, the United States will maintain a safe, secure and effective arsenal to deter any adversary, and guarantee that defense to our allies.
That position is manifest in the Defense Departments April 2010 Nuclear Posture Review Report, Klotz said, and in the attention to our enterprise provided by senior leadership from [Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates] on down, as well as the resourcing that goes with it.
Still, the number of U.S. nuclear weapons is declining, from nine operational bases and 1,054 missiles to three bases today and 450 missiles, he said. During the Cold War, Strategic Air Command had more than 1,000 bombers. Today, 76 B-52s and 20 B-2s make up the bomber inventory.
But I still think there is a compelling need for a balance across the bomber, the ICBM and the sea-launched ballistic legs, Klotz said.
Klotz said he also supports ratification of a new strategic arms reduction treaty between the United States and Russia, which together are stewards of more than 90 percent of the worlds nuclear weapons. The old START treaty lapsed Dec. 5, and the Senate has not yet voted on the new treaty.
The secretary of defense, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the commander of [U.S.] Strategic Command and virtually every former commander of Strategic Command have very cogent and compelling arguments in favor of ratifying the treaty, he said.
Klotz, who has been working in arms control and arms control policy since the mid-1970s, said such a treaty facilitates important communication between the two largest nuclear powers.
Its critically important that the United States and Russia have a continuous dialog on issues related to nuclear policy, including such areas as security, safety and command and control, he said.
This type of interaction in which the arms control treaties are the centerpiece, the nexus around which all that takes place, are critically important for understanding, for transparency and for openness between the two largest nuclear powers, the general added.
By Cheryl Pellerin
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 9, 2010 Over the past 15 months, the Air Force has built from scratch a model new command that will sustain and modernize U.S. intercontinental ballistic missile wings and the nuclear-capable bomber fleet, the general who leads the new command said today.
Some people have likened that to trying to build an airplane while actually having to fly it, Air Force Lt. Gen. Frank G. Klotz told a group of defense reporters here. And at times, it has seemed like that to us.
Global Strike Command is the Air Forces first new major command in 27 years. Its also part of a larger strategy that Air Force Secretary Michael B. Donley and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton A. Schwartz drafted to bring focus and attention back to the nuclear enterprise, Klotz said.
The command, activated in August 2009 with headquarters at Barksdale Air Force Base, La., has gone from 47 permanent staff and an equal number of temporary-duty staff to a staff of 800, plus 100 contractors.
We had to publish the guidance, the instructions and the checklists that govern activities inside the bomber and the ICBM worlds, Klotz said. As it turned out, we had to write nearly 200 of these documents that were several hundred pages long and ensure that they got trained and implemented in the field. Its a pretty daunting task.
The command is responsible for three ICBM wings, two B-52 Stratofortress wings and the only B-2 Spirit wing. About 23,000 people assigned to the command work in locations around the world.
For the first time since the end of the Cold War, Klotz said, the Air Force legs of the nuclear triad -- which is composed of land-based ICBMs, strategic missiles and ballistic-missile submarines -- are back under one command.
During the Cold War, Strategic Air Command was responsible for the Air Force segments of the triad.
At the end of the Cold War, those responsibilities were divested, Klotz said. The bombers went to Air Combat Command and the ICBMs went to Air Force Space Command.
That meant two different commands with two different commanders and two different organizations with different priorities and different resources were focusing on the Air Force nuclear enterprise, Klotz said.
Our thought was that there was some fraying in the nuclear enterprise as a result, he added, and to bring focus back to the enterprise, a number of steps were taken, including creation of the Air Force Global Strike Command.
In April 2009, President Barack Obama told a large audience in Hradčany Square in Prague in the Czech Republic that the United States would take concrete steps toward helping to create a world without nuclear weapons.
We will reduce the role of nuclear weapons in our national security strategy and urge others to do the same, Obama said, adding that as long as such weapons exist, the United States will maintain a safe, secure and effective arsenal to deter any adversary, and guarantee that defense to our allies.
That position is manifest in the Defense Departments April 2010 Nuclear Posture Review Report, Klotz said, and in the attention to our enterprise provided by senior leadership from [Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates] on down, as well as the resourcing that goes with it.
Still, the number of U.S. nuclear weapons is declining, from nine operational bases and 1,054 missiles to three bases today and 450 missiles, he said. During the Cold War, Strategic Air Command had more than 1,000 bombers. Today, 76 B-52s and 20 B-2s make up the bomber inventory.
But I still think there is a compelling need for a balance across the bomber, the ICBM and the sea-launched ballistic legs, Klotz said.
Klotz said he also supports ratification of a new strategic arms reduction treaty between the United States and Russia, which together are stewards of more than 90 percent of the worlds nuclear weapons. The old START treaty lapsed Dec. 5, and the Senate has not yet voted on the new treaty.
The secretary of defense, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the commander of [U.S.] Strategic Command and virtually every former commander of Strategic Command have very cogent and compelling arguments in favor of ratifying the treaty, he said.
Klotz, who has been working in arms control and arms control policy since the mid-1970s, said such a treaty facilitates important communication between the two largest nuclear powers.
Its critically important that the United States and Russia have a continuous dialog on issues related to nuclear policy, including such areas as security, safety and command and control, he said.
This type of interaction in which the arms control treaties are the centerpiece, the nexus around which all that takes place, are critically important for understanding, for transparency and for openness between the two largest nuclear powers, the general added.
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Guys Guys... Its IRON MAN!!! (part 3)
Or John Travolta after eating too much lobya...
Or John Travolta after eating too much lobya...
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This is it. I've seen contrails that do this. The angle of the sun is important, and the winds aloft moderate. Real missile launches usually leave a denser trail of white smoke which is aluminum oxide from the fuel.
Look at the density of the smoke in this picture of a real launch. The contrail in the mystery is much wispier.
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reminds me of the far side cartoon, folks we may experience a little turblence.Still seems to be a mystery even searches of the area have failed to find a cause.
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Only solid motors leave behind that kind of thick columns. Unburnt Aluminium is the major culprit, since it reflects light. But not all solid rockets contain Al, some just polymer+oxydizer, some only nitrocellulose+nitroglycerine, though these are increasingly rarer types.
Some large liquids are so efficient there's almost no smoke, of course this doesn't mean no contrail. Water molecules will latch onto anything larger and cooler (expanding fumes loose heat) than themselves.
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Thanks gubbi, appreciate that, but it was Hafizzz and Fateh who found the evidence.
The pic I posted is a shuttle launch. Those do use powdered aluminum as a large portion of the solid fuel boosters. It is an energetic and reliable mixture. Air-air missiles used to use motors that smoked in a similar way, but the missile trail was easy to spot. Scientists began to work on smokeless solid fuels back in the 1970's, and now all the best A2A missiles are smokeless... impossible to visually acquire doing mach 3 to 5. Probably the same with modern SAM's.
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Thanks gubbi, appreciate that, but it was Hafizzz and Fateh who found the evidence.
The pic I posted is a shuttle launch. Those do use powdered aluminum as a large portion of the solid fuel boosters. It is an energetic and reliable mixture. Air-air missiles used to use motors that smoked in a similar way, but the missile trail was easy to spot. Scientists began to work on smokeless solid fuels back in the 1970's, and now all the best A2A missiles are smokeless... impossible to visually acquire doing mach 3 to 5. Probably the same with modern SAM's.
In my point of view this was test of newly developed ICBM from submarine & I think that it is developed specially to hide from anti-Missile systems or air defense heat detectors.
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