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U.S. Opposition to Breast-Feeding Resolution Stuns World Health Officials

Ban it. Simple solution. Nowhere have I ever advocated force feeding formula milk to anyone. Am only saying give mothers an alternative. But if you think the product is that evil -- ban it. Simple as that.

Again...This is nothing more than a troll thread.
The product in itself is not evil . it can be better described as flawed.
The evil ones are the ones who while knew that their advertisement is wrong and misleading pushed forward with those advertising campaigns.so they could make some more money at the expense of the babies who could benefit from their mother milk .
It simply evil to give away free formula to the mother of the newborn babies . its just making sure that the baby won't use anything but bottle. Its taking the choice away.

This resolution was not about taking choices away. It was to no more about increasing the awareness .other wise nowhere in it there was any ban .
 
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@Hack-Hook

Ever heard of Enfamil A+?

Every mother is not in the position to breastfeed her child on a 24/7 basis.; many women have jobs; biological factors also come into play.

No harm in promoting breastfeeding but a large number of women benefit from access to Formula Milk.

Every child is not the same in behavior either. A child might refuse breastfeeding at some point.

These matters aren't so black and white.
 
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i'm no expert on formula baby-food dude :)

and yes, i agree, not every mother is able to breast-feed.
that doesn't mean i don't support the UN advertising it as the preferred option, at least until someone proves to me an internationally affordable baby-food formula product is as good as the milk from a healthy well-fed mother.
 
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You know what "WHO" stands for?

And bringing breast feeding to the UN is not? You want to nurse your baby? Do so. Formula? Your choice. Not every woman is capable of nursing her baby, so formula is an alternative. Or are you MEN telling everyone that it is easy for women to nurse? The UN resolution is about discouraging the use of formula. And we objected. But our objection does not equate to the harsh language like we 'oppose' breastfeeding.

Finally...A couple of MEN from a culture that oppresses women is criticizing US about breastfeeding. Get a grip on yourselves. :rolleyes:

Female breasts don't give donations to politicians

female breasts are a threat to US existance
 
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@peacefan
@Hack-Hook

Ever heard of Enfamil A+?

Every mother is not in the position to breastfeed her child on a 24/7 basis.; many women have jobs; biological factors also come into play.

No harm in promoting breastfeeding but a large number of women benefit from access to Formula Milk.

Every child is not the same in behavior either. A child might refuse breastfeeding at some point.

These matters aren't so black and white.
Yeah another company with history of false advertisement for its formula
http://adage.com/article/news/enfamil-maker-loses-false-advertising-suit-pbm/140827/

Let see how they played on mothers feeling to sale their product.
There are plenty of other ways to save on baby expenses without cutting back on nutrition," and "It may be temping to try a less expensive store brand, but only Enfamil Lipil is clinically prove to improve brain and eye development
Also at issue was a direct mailer that went out to more than 1 million people showing a blurry picture of a cartoon duck juxtaposed with a clear picture of the same image to get across the idea that products not containing Enfamil's blend of ingredients are inferior and could cause poor eye and brain development.
and this is the jury verdict in that case (there is 3 more case against the same company)
store-brand infant formulas are nutritionally equivalent to, and confer the same developmental benefits as, the more expensive national brands like Enfamil. Buying a heavily marketed formula from a big pharmaceutical company does not get you any closer to breast milk.”
And another court verdict
According to an August 2012 lawsuit, the maker of Enfamil, Mead Johnson & Co., falsely advertise its baby formulas as containing prebiotics that have immunity-related health benefits for babies. Specifically, the lawsuit states, “Enfamil’s ‘Natural Defense Dual Prebiotics’ do not provide health benefits as represented and certainly are not ‘proven’ to do so. Moreover, there is not competent and reliable scientific evidence supporting the Misrepresentation, and any purported link between immune response and prebiotics in the Mislabeled Products is entirely speculative.” It goes on to say, “experts agree that breast milk is immeasurably superior to baby formula in terms of infant nutrition and other health benefits. Therefore, it is misleading for Defendant to advertise the Mislabeled Products as similar to breast milk when formula cannot provide anywhere near the level of benefits provided by breast milk.” (Route v. Mead Johnson Nutrition Co. d/b/a Mead Johnson & Co., LLC, Case No. 12-cv-7350, C.D.Ca.)

So please don't talk to me in support of any special brand.

And there are ways for woman who had to go to work to gave their own milk to the babies .one is using these
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but even if they don't want that . this resolution is not about banning the formula . its about regulating the advertisement to stop such false advertise as that Enfamil a+ advertisement and not advertise them in maternity wards .
If the mother really needs them let she made her decision away from such outlandish lies as our formula enhance your baby immune system or it increase brain development or your baby have better eyesight with our formula .
 
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@Hack-Hook

I pointed out a particular product. Enfamil A+ Starter Infant Formula (Mead Johnson Nutrition) is arguably the best and safest Formula Milk you can find in the markets. Nevertheless, it is wise to consult your doctor before you consider an alternative to breastfeeding.

Read this article to understand issues of breastfeeding: https://pickyeaterblog.com/whats-the-best-organic-formula-for-your-baby/

Breastfeeding pumps are really expensive and impractical. Sorry, not sold.
 
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@Hack-Hook

I pointed out a particular product. Enfamil A+ Starter Infant Formula (Mead Johnson Nutrition) is arguably the best and safest Formula Milk you can find in the markets. Nevertheless, it is wise to consult your doctor before you consider an alternative to breastfeeding.

Read this article to understand issues of breastfeeding: https://pickyeaterblog.com/whats-the-best-organic-formula-for-your-baby/

Breastfeeding pumps are really expensive and impractical. Sorry, not sold.
a digitized ,electrical breast pomp is more expensive yes but you by it once for around 70-100$ you buy each can of Enfanil A+ for 17$ , you use the pomp for 2 years , I wonder how many can of formula you need in those 2 years ?
by the way a top quality hand operated pomp can be bought at the price of a single can of Enfamil A+ and again show me a research that prove any claim about that special brand of milk .specially that the producer already 3 times have been sentenced for false advertisement .

by the way since when Blogs are acceptable source in discussing scientific matters ?
and from these signs
Breastfeeding is HARD. Not hard as in “oh this is hard I don’t feel like doing it,” but hard as in: my baby won’t latch; I have low milk supply; my baby isn’t gaining weight; I physically can’t breastfeed because I have a health condition; my nipples are sore/bleeding/cracked/blistered; I’m in excruciating pain; I have no place to pump at work; I have mastitis; I’ve seen x# of lactation consultants and I’m still having problems nursing; etc.

let me give you solution ?
you have mastitis ,the cure is not to stop breastfeeding and continue doing so , that's the treatment.
your baby won't latch ? the solution is fix your technique , consult with a specialist to teach you how to breast feed the child. in short its your problem not the child.
you have low milk supply ? no you don't have low milk supply , you continue breast feed the baby on demand and you see ,your milk quantity increase .
you have condition like sore or blistered nipple ? breast feed with other nipple and use warm compress the condition resolve itself and you can continue breast feed with that nipple .
its cracked just don't use soap for washing your breast after giving milk to baby ,just use simple and plan old water.
you don't need to pomp at work you can do it at home .


the only acceptable of stopping breastfeeding is TB, AIDS, Failure to gain weight and one or two other condition.
even its recommended you breast feed your baby if you have HIV but don't have access to Clean water.


by the way the writer of the blog even don't knew exclusiveness breast feeding is up to 6 month not one year and in 6mmonth to 1 year we must ready the baby for family food because at one year the baby must be able to eat with the rest of the family (well except some very limited food such as
  • Slippery foods such as whole grapes; large pieces of meats, poultry, and hot dogs; candy and cough drops.
  • Small, hard foods such as nuts, seeds, popcorn, chips, pretzels, raw carrots, and raisins.
  • Sticky foods such as peanut butter and marshmallows.)
and sadly your blog even don't provide any evidence hat organic formula is better than non organic ones and go out to recommend it and then conclude European formula is better than American one again without any evidence .
and again that blog talk about prebiotic something that never proven to have any benefit for the child only claims by some company to sell their formula at twice the price.
 
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The Epic Battle Between Breast Milk and Infant-Formula Companies
When Trump administration officials opposed a WHO breast-feeding resolution, they followed a long history of policymakers listening to baby-formula manufacturers.

OLGA KHAZAN
JUL 10, 2018

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It was an issue over which a strong show of American exceptionalism wasn’t exactly expected: breast milk.

According to a recent report from The New York Times’ Andrew Jacobs, American officials at the World Health Assembly in Geneva this spring wanted to modify a breastfeeding resolution, and they went to the mat to do it, threatening other countries unless they promised to drop it.

The American delegates wanted to ditch language in the nonbinding resolution that called on governments to “protect, promote, and support breastfeeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of unhealthy food products. When that didn’t work, they threatened Ecuador, the country that intended to introduce the breastfeeding measure, with punitive trade and aid measures. Ultimately, it was Russia that agreed to introduce the breastfeeding resolution, and the U.S.’s efforts were “largely unsuccessful,” the Times reported.

A spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which led the negotiation on the resolution, denied that trade sanctions were part of the discussion about the resolution. “Recent reporting attempts to portray the U.S. position at the recent World Health Assembly as ‘anti-breastfeeding’ are patently false,” HHS national spokesperson Caitlin Oakley told me. “The United States was fighting to protect women’s abilities to make the best choices for the nutrition of their babies.”

Nevertheless, the episode shocked health-policy advocates because breastfeeding seems so, well, wholesome. To some critics of the U.S. delegation’s actions, it seemed like an example of the Trump administration bowing to the food industry and infant-formula manufacturers. “What this battle in Geneva showed us is that we have a U.S. government that is strongly aligned with the interests of the infant-formula industry and dairy industry, and are willing to play hardball,” said Lucy Sullivan, the director of 1,000 Days, an advocacy group that works on nutrition for mothers and children.

Sullivan and other health advocates point to a “stakeholder listening session” that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services held with industry groups and nonprofits two weeks before the World Health Organization meeting in Geneva. As usual, dairy, grocery, and baby-formula groups gave their opinion to the U.S. delegates about the who resolutions. What seemed different this year, health advocates told me, is how forcefully the U.S. delegates acted on the trade groups’ opposition.

A representative from Nestle, which makes baby formula and baby food, spoke out at the session, according to Mary Champeny, a program officer with the nutrition group Helen Keller International who was at the listening session. The company said it opposed the resolution because of its reference to an earlier, 2016 World Health Assembly resolution, which they said “restricts complementary feeding,” the gradual introduction of solid foods along with breast milk starting at around six months of age. Champeny remembers another group, a supermarket lobby, also speaking out against part of the resolution at the same session. In talking points from the listening session provided to The Atlantic, a Nestle representative wrote, among other things, “We believe that to significantly increase breastfeeding rates and promote healthy diets, the Guidance when implemented by Member States should consider other important measures other than simply recommending additional restrictions on the promotion of commercial baby food.”

In prepared remarks written for the listening session, a coalition of dairy interest groups seemed to take issue with the fact that WHA guidance “redefines all milk products for children up to age three as ‘breastmilk substitutes,’” and said they “urge the U.S. government to ensure the WHA does not endorse the Guidance or call on member states to implement the Guidance.” Regarding another provision, the dairy groups said, “We encourage the United States to ensure that any future recommendations from who explicitly recognize the benefit of engaging with the food and beverage industry.”

This latest tussle in Geneva follows a decades-long battle by infant-formula makers to promote themselves as essentially on par with breast milk. And while health experts instead say “breast is best,” as this incident shows, policymakers aren’t always willing to put legislation behind that message.

Formula makers have responded to the cultural battle over breastfeeding in true corporate form: by lobbying for their interests and marketing their products. For example, Abbott Laboratories, which makes Similac and other formulas, spent $790,000 on lobbying this year, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Though the company has spent more in past years, this year their disclosure lists having lobbied the U.S. Trade Representative, among others, on “proposals regarding infant nutrition marketing.”

“We support the who’s goal of increasing breastfeeding rates, including promoting exclusive breastfeeding during the first six months of life, where possible, and continued breastfeeding up to and beyond two years of age,” an Abbott spokesperson told me via email. “It is also important for all mothers and their health-care teams to choose the best feeding options for their babies and themselves.”

Some women rely on formula because they can’t or prefer not to breastfeed. Many women, especially working mothers in economically prosperous countries, breastfeed and supplement with formula. But health experts have concerns that poor women in developing countries buy formula because they think it’s better than breastmilk, then dilute it, sometimes with unsafe water, when they run low. In developing countries, formula has been found to increase the risk of infant death, when compared with breastfeeding. While the consequences of formula are not as severe in rich nations, the World Health Organization and the American Academy of Pediatricsboth recommend exclusive breastfeeding for the first six months of a baby’s life because of breast milk’s health benefits. A British charity went so far as to call formula “The Baby Killer” in the 1970s. (Though formula maker Nestle sued for libel and won, a worldwide boycott of the company ensued.)

For decades, formula manufacturers went to creative lengths to get their product in the hands of new moms. In New York City in the 1970s, for example, the maker of Similac had a guarantee that every new mom leaving a city hospital would get a free supply of the formula, as Stephen Solomon wrote in The New York Times in 1981, and some companies employed nurse-like saleswomen who would give advice to new moms in maternity wards while subtly promoting infant formula. At the time, a doctor who worked for USAID blamed the reliance on infant formula for about a million infant deaths each year in developing countries.

That same year, the World Health Organization voted 118 to 1 to adopt a nonbinding code that advocated the end of promoting infant formula to the public. That one holdout vote? The United States. “Despite our governmental interest in encouragement of breastfeeding,” explained Elliott Abrams, then the Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs, according to The Times, the restrictions on formula advertisements “run counter to our constitutional guarantees of free speech and freedom of information.”

Today, countries that ban the advertising or promotion of infant formula, such as Brazil, tend to have higher rates of breastfeeding than those that don’t, like the United States. Still, even countries that adopted the who code into law don’t always crack down on formula manufacturers that break it.

Though 130 countries restricted advertising in the wake of the who code’s passage, a study in 2010 documented 500 violations of the code in 46 countries. One billboard in Laos, for example, showed a child happily eating “Bear Brand Formula Milk.” “This type of widespread marketing results in mothers’ recognizing certain brands and believing their children will be healthier with formula,” wrote the pediatrician June Pauline Brady in the Archives of Disease in Childhood in 2012.

In 2004, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services tried to do the opposite: to advertise breastfeeding. Health officials were going to release ads showing some of the health issues—in the form of insulin syringes and inhalers—that they claimed babies who aren’t breastfed are more likely to face, according to a Washington Post story from the time. But the infant-formula industry hired lobbyists to appeal to the department, and the ads were toned down to feature happier pictures of ice cream and flowers. The new campaign, in the end, did nothing to boost breastfeeding rates.

Two years later, Massachusetts went further, becoming the first state to ban gift bags filled with infant formula in maternity wards. But the decision, crafted by the state’s Department of Public Health, was reversed by then-Governor Mitt Romney. The following month, Bristol-Myers Squibb, which makes formula, announced it would build a plant in Massachusetts. (“The decision to build our facility in Devens did not involve any consideration of our Mead Johnson business,” said a Bristol Myers Squibb spokesperson, referencing a former subsidiary.)

As recently as February of this year, a report by the group Changing Markets Foundation found that Nestle pitched its baby formulas as “closest to,” “inspired by,” and “following the example of” human breast milk, The Guardian reported. In some cases, the company contradicted itself, promoting Brazilian formula as being free of sucrose “for baby’s good health” while tucking sucrose into its South African formula. (A Nestle spokesperson told me, “The Changing Markets Foundation report on infant formula raises some important points. We engaged with CMF in a dialogue to clarify these points. We hope to collectively address the critically important challenge of ensuring access to the right nutrition for infants.”)

A few weeks later, an investigation by The Guardian and Save the Children found that infant-formula makers were offering health workers in the Philippines “free trips to lavish conferences, meals, tickets to shows and the cinema and even gambling chips, earning their loyalty,” in violation of the country’s laws. The investigation found:

TV advertising campaigns for follow-on milk by brands such as Bonna—which portray the “Bonna kid” as one who is smarter and succeeds in life—convinced them, they said, that bottle feeding is not only as good for the baby’s health as breast milk but will bolster their IQ and future prospects. Store displays of formula were splashed with claims such as “clinically proven to give the IQ + EQ advantage.”

The reporters spoke with one woman who could only afford to give her baby half-bottles of the formula. The girl’s stomach, they wrote, was visibly swollen from malnutrition.

Since 1981, the infant-formula who code has been updated through resolutions at the World Health Assembly. The last update was in 2016, during the Obama administration, and it was a big policy push, according to Elizabeth Zehner, a project director with Helen Keller International. As they often do, industry groups spoke out against it, said Sullivan, the 1,000 Days director who attended the 2016 session. The World Health Assembly “welcomed” the 2016 resolution “with appreciation,” a notch below endorsing it.

However, this year’s resolution wasn’t about updating the code. It was more modest, simply intended to remind countries of the importance of promoting breastfeeding, Sullivan said, and notify them about best practices around breastfeeding and HIV, or during natural disasters.

So it surprised health advocates that the United States would use such heavy-handed efforts to try to kill it. “They used very aggressive tactics to get rid of a resolution that really wasn’t a policy grab,” Zehner said.

Of course, aggressive is often the way of the Trump administration. As President Trump wrote on Twitter yesterday, “The failing NY Times Fake News story today about breast feeding must be called out.”



Why Trump Administration Officials Opposed a Breast-Feeding Resolution - The Atlantic
 
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a digitized ,electrical breast pomp is more expensive yes but you by it once for around 70-100$ you buy each can of Enfanil A+ for 17$ , you use the pomp for 2 years , I wonder how many can of formula you need in those 2 years ?
by the way a top quality hand operated pomp can be bought at the price of a single can of Enfamil A+ and again show me a research that prove any claim about that special brand of milk .specially that the producer already 3 times have been sentenced for false advertisement .

by the way since when Blogs are acceptable source in discussing scientific matters ?
and from these signs


let me give you solution ?
you have mastitis ,the cure is not to stop breastfeeding and continue doing so , that's the treatment.
your baby won't latch ? the solution is fix your technique , consult with a specialist to teach you how to breast feed the child. in short its your problem not the child.
you have low milk supply ? no you don't have low milk supply , you continue breast feed the baby on demand and you see ,your milk quantity increase .
you have condition like sore or blistered nipple ? breast feed with other nipple and use warm compress the condition resolve itself and you can continue breast feed with that nipple .
its cracked just don't use soap for washing your breast after giving milk to baby ,just use simple and plan old water.
you don't need to pomp at work you can do it at home .


the only acceptable of stopping breastfeeding is TB, AIDS, Failure to gain weight and one or two other condition.
even its recommended you breast feed your baby if you have HIV but don't have access to Clean water.


by the way the writer of the blog even don't knew exclusiveness breast feeding is up to 6 month not one year and in 6mmonth to 1 year we must ready the baby for family food because at one year the baby must be able to eat with the rest of the family (well except some very limited food such as
  • Slippery foods such as whole grapes; large pieces of meats, poultry, and hot dogs; candy and cough drops.
  • Small, hard foods such as nuts, seeds, popcorn, chips, pretzels, raw carrots, and raisins.
  • Sticky foods such as peanut butter and marshmallows.)
and sadly your blog even don't provide any evidence hat organic formula is better than non organic ones and go out to recommend it and then conclude European formula is better than American one again without any evidence .
and again that blog talk about prebiotic something that never proven to have any benefit for the child only claims by some company to sell their formula at twice the price.
Breast pumps are expensive and overrated. Someone close to me used a manual breast pump and I noticed that it is tedious to use and its performance is not satisfactory either. Another individual close to me bought and used an electronic breast pump and it malfunctioned very soon.

I have consulted several doctors and each have a positive opinion of Enfamil A+ Starter Infant Formula (Mead Johnson Nutrition). Keep in mind that Pakistani doctors also advice mothers to breastfeed their babies by default.

I cited a blog of a mother, and a mother speak with experience. Breastfeeding is a complicated affair. A child might accept breastfeeding for a while but refuse it at a later stage irrespective of experience of mother in this matter. No child is same in behavior and tastes. Additionally, mothers do not produce same quantity of milk even if they are breastfeeding.

And as I pointed out earlier, working mothers are not in the position to breastfeed their babies on a consistent basis. They have to make do with alternatives at times.

No harm in promoting breastfeeding (I personally vouch for it) but it is not helpful to cast Formula Milk in negative light. Corporations behind Formula Milk have created many jobs and a large number of women are beneficiaries of their products worldwide.
 
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Breastfeeding or not should be up to the mother, not we, any country or UN can tell them what to do.

People missed this point, and jump into the 70 billions dollars "baby formula" thing head on.

if tomorrow UN decided Christianity is the best for humanity, would Pakistan not going to object it? That's the same thing, politicalize a decision to breastfeeding is like you want to politicalize personal choice. Who are WHO to tell each and individual what to do to think that is the best for their child, is it a bunch of doctor? Or a bunch of mothers?

Strange consider Smoking is a much bigger industry, and most doctor would tell you Smoking is bad for your health, yet I don't see any UN resolution on smoking ban. WHO didn't touch the big stuff and decided to open up on a small one? That is a strange topic to politicalize to begin with.
 
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Breastfeeding or not should be up to the mother, not we, any country or UN can tell them what to do.
I just think it is ironic that a couple of Chinese are in this criticizing US when their own China noted...

http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0808/c90000-9252592.html
China is facing a severe decline in breastfeeding. Statistics show that the proportion of pure breastfeeding among infants under 6 months dropped to 20.8 per cent in 2013 from 27.8 per cent in 2008, much lower than the world average of 38 per cent.
No one ragged on China. But hey...If it is US...:lol:
 
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The American delegates wanted to ditch language in the nonbinding resolution that called on governments to “protect, promote, and support breastfeeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of unhealthy food products.
The above is what is reported to be the issue.

On con side you have the US gov't(only one reported) and baby food industry.
On con side you have the arguments for special group cases and circumstances.
On con side they have the industry fund and organization to support.

On pro side you have the UN, WHO and countries from Africa and South America and health organizations.
On pro side you have overall picture of general scenario.
On pro side they have public/gov't fund and organization to support.

Presumably or ostensibly they all did it for the good of the babies.

Personally I think the US position is untenable, and I do not think I am alone in this. But democracy on global affair does not seem to work very well on the United State.
 
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Breast pumps are expensive and overrated. Someone close to me used a manual breast pump and I noticed that it is tedious to use and its performance is not satisfactory either. Another individual close to me bought and used an electronic breast pump and it malfunctioned very soon.

I have consulted several doctors and each have a positive opinion of Enfamil A+ Starter Infant Formula (Mead Johnson Nutrition). Keep in mind that Pakistani doctors also advice mothers to breastfeed their babies by default.

I cited a blog of a mother, and a mother speak with experience. Breastfeeding is a complicated affair. A child might accept breastfeeding for a while but refuse it at a later stage irrespective of experience of mother in this matter. No child is same in behavior and tastes. Additionally, mothers do not produce same quantity of milk even if they are breastfeeding.

And as I pointed out earlier, working mothers are not in the position to breastfeed their babies on a consistent basis. They have to make do with alternatives at times.

No harm in promoting breastfeeding (I personally vouch for it) but it is not helpful to cast Formula Milk in negative light. Corporations behind Formula Milk have created many jobs and a large number of women are beneficiaries of their products worldwide.
Again advertisement for a brand .
Its not important what a mother or some doctor say . I'm a doctor and say that brand is no better than any other . if you can provide me with a research that prove me wrong .
That is just a plot to charge trove for that formula.

Breastfeeding or not should be up to the mother, not we, any country or UN can tell them what to do.

People missed this point, and jump into the 70 billions dollars "baby formula" thing head on.

if tomorrow UN decided Christianity is the best for humanity, would Pakistan not going to object it? That's the same thing, politicalize a decision to breastfeeding is like you want to politicalize personal choice. Who are WHO to tell each and individual what to do to think that is the best for their child, is it a bunch of doctor? Or a bunch of mothers?

Strange consider Smoking is a much bigger industry, and most doctor would tell you Smoking is bad for your health, yet I don't see any UN resolution on smoking ban. WHO didn't touch the big stuff and decided to open up on a small one? That is a strange topic to politicalize to begin with.
Nobody tell mother to do what . the resolution says to government don't advertise formula ,where in the resolution it say prohibit mothers from using formula .
And I'd the resolution even is not binding . also if who don't make such recommendation then what's it for ?

Also I get you are a person who is against WHO recommendation for vaccine and also against any other recommendation by who for example healthy diet dish and not smoking and reducing alcohol consumption ,being against drugs. And .........

By the way if mothers knew better why there was such high infant mortality rate before implementation of WHO suggestion and guideline . that alone show that mother don't knew the best they just copy what their mother did (in many cases mother in law)

I just think it is ironic that a couple of Chinese are in this criticizing US when their own China noted...

http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0808/c90000-9252592.html

No one ragged on China. But hey...If it is US...:lol:
Did China tried to stop the resolution ? If they tried that I would have criticised them too.
 
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the resolution says to government don't advertise formula
THAT is telling people what to do...….

WHO as a medical association, should be focus on advising, not passing resolution saying what is bad and what is good, you don't get to decide which is right and which is wrong for individual? If WHO get to have a say as to which is better for human being as a personal choice, where do it stop? Behaviour? Mental control? And even child birth?

What is WHO pass a resolution tomorrow and call for government banning all contraceptive advertisement when they say they said research show birth rate is in decline? I mean, WHO, like a doctor, can advise anyone not to do something, but telling what a government to do is stepping over the line.


Also I get you are a person who is against WHO recommendation for vaccine and also against any other recommendation by who for example healthy diet dish and not smoking and reducing alcohol consumption ,being against drugs. And ......…

Nope, because you still don't gets it.

What my belief is different than what WHO advice, I decided on what I believe or not, in this case, I wasn't against Breastfeeding, in fact, many of my relative are breastfeed and I am breastfeed and if I have a child with my wife, I will "recommend" her to breastfeed first. If all else fail, then try formula. But then if and when I am in serious health issue, at the same time I believe a DNR order is best for me.

That does not mean at the same time I think of the WHO policy is right. WHO does not get to decide which is good for my child, that is up to my wife to decide.

And I am guessing you are against "DNR" order.

For a GP, you sure as hell is closed minded.
 
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