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In "free" countries, everything is polarized. Even the education. Luckily China adopted universal education. I believe China will eventually win in the China-US competition due to the different routes. In 19th century, UK was elit education. Germany was univeral education.
The UK still beat Germany because of its political, cultural and financial advantages. So having better engineers isnt enough. Your country can get defeated and those engineers end up working for the victors like German and Soviet engineers ending up going to the US.
 
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Diversity is progressive for a country? Really? Look at the world. Reality tells different stories.
China is one of most united countries because we are not bonded by interest but culture and blood. China went through very poor, very miserable period of time. We still stick together. Compared with China, US is like spoiled one.

To keep its present status, US has to maintain an absolute dominant position in every field. Which is very costly and fragile. China doesn't have to surpass US in every field. China just needs to break through several spots. Domino falls will happen in US.
China is not a great nation like the US. Maybe it will be in the future when Chinese culture is more hospitable but not today.

Billions of people from third world countries want to migrate to the US, not China. Millions have even risked their lives to get there. Kabul Airport is a good example.
 
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China is not a great nation like the US. Maybe it will be in the future when Chinese culture is more hospitable but not today.

Billions of people from third world countries want to migrate to the US, not China. Millions have even risked their lives to get there. Kabul Airport is a good example.
Is Japan a great nation?

The US started out as an immigrant nation as the continent needed immigration to build its population. China will never be an immigrant nation.
 
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The UK still beat Germany because of its political, cultural and financial advantages. So having better engineers isnt enough. Your country can get defeated and those engineers end up working for the victors like German and Soviet engineers ending up going to the US.
No. Germany was way powerful than UK in almost every field. UK could beat Germany because the big brother helped UK. It's not fair game in the first place. Universal education is important not because there are more engineers. It is because well educated population fosters efficiency and healthy social environment. Which in turn helps further development.

China will be bigger version Germany. And this time no big brother helps US.
 
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Is Japan a great nation?

The US started out as an immigrant nation as the continent needed immigration to build its population. China will never be an immigrant nation.
Japan has been a fully developed nation for half a century but it's not a superpower.

Look at it this way. The US became the largesr economy in the mid-1880s but it didn't become a super power until after 1945.
 
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Is Japan a great nation?

The US started out as an immigrant nation as the continent needed immigration to build its population. China will never be an immigrant nation.
Japan is a rich nation, not a great nation.
 
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Is Japan a great nation?

The US started out as an immigrant nation as the continent needed immigration to build its population. China will never be an immigrant nation.
US no-owner-land dividend almost runs out. So does immigrant dividend.
 
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US used to have the capabilities. The technologies to create a space shuttle is quite similar to an orbital glider. Seems that US enginnering capabilities are entering terminal decay.

They didn't hit decay but they were ahead of everyone because they were industrial before than others and now everyone is catching up china being the first one because it is going at greater speed than others.

Majority will eventually catch up by default and surpass because they have their own regional competition which will also force them to surpass the US down the line the more hectic the regional rivalries and competition in Asia the faster the US will be left behind this is natural process and bound to happen
 
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Japan has been a fully developed nation for half a century but it's not a superpower.

Look at it this way. The US had the largest became economy in the mid-1880s but it didn't become a super power until after 1945.
Well in terms of China’s fundamentals, it certainly has what it takes to become a superpower. It already has that today. But it lacks the institutional power, which it is building now. There is no guarantee it will succeed although I would give it the benefit of the doubt. China is probably comparable to the US circa 1935.
No. Germany was way powerful than UK in almost every field. UK could beat Germany because the big brother helped UK. It's not fair game in the first place. Universal education is important not because there are more engineers. It is because well educated population fosters efficiency and healthy social environment. Which in turn helps further development.

China will be bigger version Germany. And this time no big brother helps US.
China has made great strides in universal education but there are still huge gaps. Rural areas are still far less educated than the urban areas.
 
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But it lacks the institutional power, which it is building now.
What institutional power is it building now? I know it is building institutions, which is not the same as institutional power. :)
China has made great strides in universal education but there are still huge gaps. Rural areas are still far less educated than the urban areas.
I bag to differ. I think the folks in urban areas of China are over-educated and lack of education at the same time.
 
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What institutional power is it building now? I know it is building institutions, which is not the same as institutional power. :)

I bag to differ. I think the folks in urban areas of China are over-educated.
Belt and road, sino Russian alliance, sco, etc generally expanding its influence.

Yes there is a huge gap in education between urban and rural China.
 
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Belt and road, sino Russian alliance, sco, etc generally expanding its influence.
Yes, that is expanding influence. Unfortunately, that is not expanding inspiration.
 
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Well in terms of China’s fundamentals, it certainly has what it takes to become a superpower. It already has that today. But it lacks the institutional power, which it is building now. There is no guarantee it will succeed although I would give it the benefit of the doubt. China is probably comparable to the US circa 1935.

China has made great strides in universal education but there are still huge gaps. Rural areas are still far less educated than the urban areas.
I'm very optimistic for China's future. China has everything to be successful. Huge land and population. Smart and hard working people. And genius government(Which some one may not agree on) .

Education in rural is not as bad as you think. Maybe can not compare to urban education. But still much better than most countries' standard.
 
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Yes, that is expanding influence. Unfortunately, that is not expanding inspiration.

China has been horrible with its image building, PR and media influence. That may change after it accomplishes economic and tech dominance though.
I'm very optimistic for China's future. China has everything to be successful. Huge land and population. Smart and hard working people. And genius government(Which some one may not agree on) .

Education in rural is not as bad as you think. Maybe can not compare to urban education. But still much better than most countries' standard.

Rural education is still pretty bad compared to Northern European countries like Germany.
 
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