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U.S. intelligence had suspected that Mohammad Omar was ill in Pakistan

So are you comparing Mullah Omar with Charles De Gaulle?? :woot: :rofl:

You're not serious are you? That's akin to comparing Talib Haqqani to George Washington! :cheesy:

Exactly!!!

"the moral equivalent of our founding fathers".........Ronald Regan - President of the United States
 
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Individuals are entitled to their opinions. He life/death meant nothing for the majority.
Individuals who are part of the administration of the forum are openly endorsing Internationally declared terrorists and brutal dictators like mullah omar and that is kosher? Where would you draw the line, AQ? Al Nusra? Isis? TTP?
 
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Individuals who are part of the administration of the forum are openly endorsing Internationally declared terrorists and brutal dictators like mullah omar and that is kosher? Where would you draw the line, AQ? Al Nusra? Isis? TTP?

TT's are not a part of the admin team. I don't agree with it but that's freedom of speech. We have people endorsing the likes of all sorts.
 
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Mullah Omar was not a terrorist. If he was, US would not have been publicly talking to Taliban.

Fact is Taliban never were terrorists. They were offspring of a violent period of Afghan history but were very much Afghan and established exemplary peace in mid 90s Afghanistan when the Mujahideen were slitting each others throats and the country was in bigger turmoil than it was under Soviet occupation.

Twist the facts and you can easily term them terrorists.

We have come round a full circle to accept Afghan Taliban legitimacy. Talking to them is a testament to that reality. Instead of terming them terrorists for decade and a half, it would have been much better to accept their legitimacy and to to talk to them instead of fighting them. Fighting has resulted in loss of thousands of lives of both sides of the war.
they had created a hell on earth not much different to the caliphate in Iraq and Syria

they also came to power after a brutal civil war, again, not unlike the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria

and all through their brutal regime India supported the northern alliance, while Pakistan and Sauds supported the Talibs, no wonder Pakistan has turned into the jihad factory of the world.

"long live mullah omar" - pakistan defence forum think tank :big_boss:

@CENTCOM :whistle:
 
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Taliban did not do 9/11, and who did it, it remains unproven. Mullah Omar asked Americans for proof against OBL's alleged involvement and Americans refused to provide for either they never had any such proof or were too arrogant to do that. Mullah Omar sacrificed his government but kept his promise, promise of a true gentleman. America invaded Afghanistan and since then his men are fighting invaders just like Vietnamese fought, or Iraqi insurgents did.

And as far as Americans declaring everybody, who does not happen to toe their line, as terrorist is concerned, George Washington, the father of USA, was declared as terrorist by the British (against whom Washington was fighting) so lets not go into this joke of declaring terrorist for it means nothing.
 
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He was a friendly head of state that was deposed in 2001. What is wrong with Pakistan having treated him. I hope Pakistan looked after Mullah Omar and gave him full gun salute on his burial. He is to us like Charles De Gaulle was with the Allies. I hope Pakistan is looking after his family. I don't know about America but I would like to think that Pakistan stands by it's friends.

Mullah Omar RIP.

Where were these folks when the Pakistani Taliban were in full swing blowing targets up and down Pakistan? The TTP found safe havens well within Taliban territory, where they carried on regardless attacking Pakistan. Fighters from the TTP bolstered the Afghan Taliban's fighting ranks.

They were acquaintances at best, never friends and towards the end engaged in duplicity.
 
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You guys need to make up your minds— yesterday there were a bunch of threads with the Pakistani members arguing that the Afghan Taliban's claims prove he didn't die in Pakistan. As I read those threads, they implicitly suggested that if he had died in Pakistan, it would have been an embarrassment. No you say, if he was in Pakistan, it was legitimate as a former head of state of a friendly government. Some have called him a 'true gentleman'.

Fact is that he was the worst kind of fascist who terrorised his country. Killed and tortured thousands on the basis of some medieval ideology and set his already troubled nation back a few more decades. I have to work in Afghanistan occasionally and have yet to meet a young person who doesn't resent their lost years due to the Taliban regime.

To make matters worse, it was Pakistan who radicalised the Nang Pashtuns with its 'Islam over tribe' policy, with it's usual aim to push what it saw as its strategic interests in Afghanistan. The usual 'the Americans made us do it' claim doesn't hold either because you started the islamisation of the tribes in Daoud Khan's first term (when he was Prime Minister), well before the Americans were interested.
 
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Are you serious about this? Where were these folks when the Pakistani Taliban were in full swing blowing targets up and down Pakistan? The TTP found safe havens well within Taliban territory, where they carried on regardless attacking Pakistan. Fighters from the TTP bolstered the Afghan Taliban's fighting ranks.

They were acquaintances at best, never friends and towards the end engaged in duplicity.
A better question to ask would be, where were Musharraf's and Kiyani's troops? Why they allowed TTP to roam freely in Pakistan? What our intelligence agencies were doing?

Afghans have never been friendly towards Pakistan so I would expect least from them, but I do have the right to question my own military, what she was doing?
 
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A better question to ask would be, where were Musharraf's and Kiyani's troops? Why they allowed TTP to roam freely in Pakistan? What our intelligence agencies were doing?

Afghans have never been friendly towards Pakistan so I would expect least from them, but I do have the right to question my own military, what she was doing?

I agree that is something that has to be questioned. The answer is that they did precious little during that time, and Pakistan lost thousands of men.
 
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He was a friendly head of state that was deposed in 2001. What is wrong with Pakistan having treated him. I hope Pakistan looked after Mullah Omar and gave him full gun salute on his burial. He is to us like Charles De Gaulle was with the Allies. I hope Pakistan is looking after his family. I don't know about America but I would like to think that Pakistan stands by it's friends.

Mullah Omar RIP.


For a start Mullah Omar should be given Nishan-e-Paksitan, never mind if it is posthumous; may be even Nishan-e-Haider if the rules permit that to happen.

But for now it may be RIP Talks, then even maybe RIP Taliban.... then Viva Daesh... who knows?
Its a spanner in the works.

By the way, there are now reports that Jalaluddin Haqqani is dead too.

Jalaluddin Haqqani is dead, say Taliban sources - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

My condolences to the Pakistani members, he was your valued friend and ally.


Sad... there is a sad song appropriate for this:
Sangam - Dost Dost Na Raha - Mukesh - YouTube

RIP some more guys.
 
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