U.S. Flies B-52s Through China’s Expanded Air Defense Zone

[Juice]

Right on bro. Many of these are Desi Canadians.




Maps are there all the times. It depends who has the muscles to enforce them.




That was uncharacteristic of Juice.

Hope he apologizes soon.

Was in poor taste, sorry guys.

 

[HariPrasad]

The Chinese are going o shoot out warnings.

Warning No 12554698762410

 

[xenon54 out]

They humiliate you, you must react otherwise it will be the shame

Seriously, how old are you?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Why do you guys think would China shoot down unarmed B-52's??


One day, when everything has worked out to plan, China will challenge aerial vehicles, force them to land or shoot them down and will claim that they have had enough of the nonsense. I don't think any country of the world, including the US, is in any position to go to war with China.

I don't think china is in any position to go to war with usa.USA can defeat china without firing a single shot.

 

[GoodBoy]

Wait and watch Indians on this forum becoming cheerleaders for the Yanks.

Nah... the term "cheerleader" is patented by Pakistan since they do cheerleading for China all the time.

Seems USA is waiting for a chance. Japanese are will patrol Senkakus often and in the coming days Japanese will violate the airspace more often.

I am not talking on behalf of USA here.

If you mark international air space and Maritime space as yours, china will become a joke. More and more countries will fly in that space and each time a country defies the law china will only issue a threat since USA will back those countries.

It's already a joke specially when they issue warnings to almost everyone, they are just shy of warning themselves.

 

[Mav3rick]

I don't think china is in any position to go to war with usa.USA can defeat china without firing a single shot.

I can agree with the part in bold, however the other statement can be said for China rather then US in case of a financial war. In any case neither China nor the US can afford to go to war against each other because both are actually capable of hitting the other back hard......unlike Afghanistan or Iraq.

 

[notsuperstitious]

You didn't quote me in full i also said:



And what status quo are you talking about ? Did the Philippines ever completely own the Spratly islands ? Did Vietnam ? The Philippines didn't even claim the Scarborough Shoal untill 1978! And China is bullying how ? Did China threaten to invade ? Blockade ? Sanctioned anyone ? Did they send in the PLAN ? There are often multiple parties claiming these territories and China is just one of them. What is so different between what China is doing and the other claimants ?

read here:



Scarborough Shoal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't think US involvement in the region is immaterial. If you like to know, a lot of the countries in the backyard of the US welcomes Chinese activities there including military cooperation is that a failure of US diplomacy ?

I can't argue with denial. Lets just disagree on whether China is bullying other smaller neighbors or not and move on.

 

[Oldman1]

We don't need to waste our time with those 1950s junks.

Don't underestimate upgraded 1950s junk that can destroy a couple of cities since they are capable nuclear platforms. Or in other scenarios destroy a carrier battle group like your carrier and its escorts. Or military bases. We still fly them because we don't need to reinvent the wheel. Thats how good the bombers are.

By the way the Chinese govt. claims the B52 was in your space for 2 and half hours and you guys didn't do crap. Where is your fighter planes?

 

[ephone]

Do not need bring China into that again.

China was then in the historical culture revolution and Mao almost shut down everything, e.g. basic schools, universities and etc. Red Guards could even attack military places then. The whole country is in a chaos.

I do not think China was in any mood joining in another conflict.

We operate solo. We don't need Pakistan or North Korea to fight out battles like you needed the Soviets/Russians to fight Pakistan.

what ,then what is base of this thread?
We need Soviets/Russia in 1971 because US intervene and send their 7th fleet to bay of bengal.Even china is also prepared to attack India .We have our own limit we cant take US,UK and China simultaneously at that time.If china can take entire US ,Japan and NATO forces,why you guys stay in bay when 2 B-52 flow over your new so called ADIZ?,why you cant send fighters to escort them out of your area like yanks do?.

If it is that easy, I would have already done that if I were U.S.

I don't think china is in any position to go to war with usa.USA can defeat china without firing a single shot.

The irony is that it is OK for other countries to draw whatever ADZ they want. When China does it, well, a bunch of idiots jump up and down like monkeys.

Where were they now 40 or 50 years ago when those ADZ were drawn at the first time and then afterwards until now???

 

[Rainmaker]

China's biggest mistake is trying to provoke a conflict in the air.Chinese pilots and copy flankers are shooting turkeys for raptors aand USA pilots and even japanese pilots on modified f-15s with AMRAAMS.

Please don't compare your incompetent airforce with ours.

It's a great insult to us.

I don't think china is in any position to go to war with usa.USA can defeat china without firing a single shot.

Oh not that oil embargo again

If our economy collapses, the American economy collapses far worse.

Obviously I wouldn't expect you to understand how the global economy and current financial system works.

 

[ravindra1455]

drop some neuclear bombs at these tini island and submerge them and live happily forever

 

[j20dragon]

Here are the crucial differences...

Defying China, U.S. bombers and Japanese planes fly through new air zone| Reuters

Spin all you want. The only thing it will do is make you dizzy.

It is not a spin. We already stated what needed to be stated. We have SAID known flights would not need to be report, which is an indication of routine flights that are not heading toward our territorial airspace. And we HAVE cited the US and Japan ADIZ as a case of normal protocol and procedure when we established our ADIZ. Therefore we expect people to follow the same procedure as they do to the US/Japan.

We have set up a question and answer section for media to ask for verification and clarification. Our announcement did not put out the detail on the distinction but it was clear we are talking about the US's ADIZ. Get it?

 

[j20dragon]

Air zone said not to affect routine flights

Flight plans are usually filed 24 hrs in advanced with established commercial corridors are already well known with habitual flight numbers. So when the Soviets/Russians penetrate Alaskan ADIZ they would not be filing any flight plans, and of course we are well within intercept and escort procedures. If we are not alert, they would be free to penetrate national airspace. Free as in being non-escorted, not free as in given permission.


We do not control what the media say. Whatever beef you have with the media, take it up with them.


You obviously did not understand the Reuters news article, so I will try again...

1- If the intention is to enter national airspace, assuming peaceful intent, then a flight plan must be file at least 24 hrs in advance. Then as the aircraft enter the ADIZ and responded appropriately, he will be allowed entrance into national airspace.

2- If the intention is NOT to enter national airspace but the journey require passage thru an ADIZ, the only thing required is appropriate response and national colors. The aircraft will be monitored to ensure that what was claimed in the response will match.

The Chinese rules for this new ADIZ is that all passages must have filed flight plans REGARDLESS if the intent is passage thru the ADIZ or entering Chinese national airspace.

The Chinese rules stands contrary to accepted courtesies. Yes, there is nothing to say that China cannot make such a demand, but this is a such radical departure from accepted INTERNATIONAL courtesies that just about every neighbor of China took offense at it.

You are so manipulative. PLEASE only respond to me.

If we REQUIRE all planes intent to passage through the ADIZ, then why did we announce that "known flights would not need be reported to our authority" and "The zone will not affect by routine flights"?

 

[danger007]

It is not a spin. We already stated what needed to be stated. We have SAID known flights would not need to be report, which is an indication of routine flights that are not heading toward our territorial airspace. And we HAVE cited the US and Japan ADIZ as a case of normal protocol and procedure when we established our ADIZ. Therefore we expect people to follow the same procedure as they do to the US/Japan.

We have set up a question and answer section for media to ask for verification and clarification. Our announcement did not put out the detail on the distinction but it was clear we are talking about the US's ADIZ. Get it?

Feel happy bro... You guys bringing Russian planes flies over USA ADIZ..... Fine fine... But there is a difference in this situation.... Neither Russia nor USA are trying to beat down each other...... clearly USA Pick its side by flying Bombers through newly established so called chinese ADIZ over the disputed island... which chyna and japan trying take on each other... get the difference.... lololololololololololololololololololol...... am afraid you don't even the difference.....

 

[j20dragon]

Feel happy bro... You guys bringing Russian planes flies over USA ADIZ..... Fine fine... But there is a difference in this situation.... Neither Russia nor USA are trying to beat down each other...... clearly USA Pick its side by flying Bombers through newly established so called chinese ADIZ over the disputed island... which chyna and japan trying take on each other... get the difference.... lololololololololololololololololololol...... am afraid you don't even the difference.....

I repeat, what the US did does not mean it has the same meaning to us. We said we were monitoring the US plane and did not deem it threaten our national airspace because its intent was not heading toward our national airspace, therefore, our response was masterful, which is to save "oil and energy" and keep mute.

You are mistaken that the US are trying to embarrass us. If they want to embarrass us, then they need to head their aircrafts toward our national airspace, not by purely visiting the zone.

Also, we already know the US sides with Japan because we are not friend alright? The question we want to know is whether the US will directly involved in a war with us over Japan. Do you understand?