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U.S. flies B-52 over South Korea after North's nuclear test

It is presence itself that is significant. Think how Saudis think US base in their country.

If they are really against it then they will ask the U.S to leave, just like the Philippines public/political establishment did with the former U.S Subic bay military base(a decision they now regret and are begging the U.S to return for obvious reasons. lool).
 
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true. but they think they are the same country, unfortunately split into two. same applies to china. that was why china demanded us to withdraw troops from taiwan before restoring ties with us. same attitude. i guess it may be difficult for us military men to understand such sentiment.
Aahh...The typical civilian condescension that those who serves in the military must be stupid.
 
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Aahh...The typical civilian condescension that those who serves in the military must be stupid.
wrong. most military men are just decent and intelligent as others. however, regardless the good intention of regular soldiers, one thing to remember is that military is just a gun. someone else pulls the trigger. the ill feeling towards foreign troops is not towards the regular soldiers. it is towards the one who may pull the trigger.
 
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Nah, North Korea can dismantle its nuke program, reform its vicious little dictatorship,negotiate with both the US AND South Korea, and can agree to mutual drawdowns on the DMZ. Otherwise they can go suck lemons.
Let us withdraw first if NK dismental Nukes it is fair deal for both parties

If US kept it ego only people suffer

If NK Dont dismantel US can comeback anytime
 
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Let us withdraw first if NK dismental Nukes it is fair deal for both parties

If US kept it ego only people suffer

If NK Dont dismantel US can comeback anytime
yeah, what NK is doing is just getting into a vicious circle. they should soften the tension with the south to make south korean feel the need to ask US withdraw.
 
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wrong. most military men are just decent and intelligent as others. however, regardless the good intention of regular soldiers, one thing to remember is that military is just a gun. someone else pulls the trigger. the ill feeling towards foreign troops is not towards the regular soldiers. it is towards the one who may pull the trigger.
So basically...What you are concerned most is North Koreans' opinions, not South Koreans', and if there are any South Koreans' opinions, the only one that matters is the withdrawal of US military presence.

What else should we expect from a Chinese...:lol:
 
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So basically...What you are concerned most is North Koreans' opinions, not South Koreans', and if there are any South Koreans' opinions, the only one that matters is the withdrawal of US military presence.

What else should we expect from a Chinese...:lol:
I was just explaining the behavior and demand of NK. Of course I will say NK's opinions. Why would I say SK's opinion when I talk about NK. In the end, it is the US opinion that matters the most. Think about it. When US withdrew troops from Taiwan, did it give a rat's a$$ about Taiwanese opinion?
 
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The U.S should have sent My favorite aircraft.....................

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A U.S. Air Force B-2 Spirit aircraft assigned to the 509th Bomb Wing approaches the refueling boom of a KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft assigned to the 108th Wing

instead of sending
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B 52 breaking the sound barrier.

or
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U.S. Air Force B-1 bomber flying low and fast
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Alien tech :smitten:
 
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I was just explaining the behavior and demand of NK. Of course I will say NK's opinions. Why would I say SK's opinion when I talk about NK. In the end, it is the US opinion that matters the most. Think about it. When US withdrew troops from Taiwan, did it give a rat's a$$ about Taiwanese opinion?
We still support Taiwan in ways China does not like. So yes...We do care about Taiwan's opinions. :lol:
 
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The U.S should have sent My favorite aircraft.....................

7c91e3bd1d5ca4d5f8a47cd53f98362f.jpg

A U.S. Air Force B-2 Spirit aircraft assigned to the 509th Bomb Wing approaches the refueling boom of a KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft assigned to the 108th Wing

instead of sending
537779ed41cce99812ba8171fd7c7cac.jpg

B 52 breaking the sound barrier.

or
0ecadc4763b910aa55201b50363cd6e1.jpg

U.S. Air Force B-1 bomber flying low and fast
1da48ec9d99c1c9f90d51c60a9d48354.jpg


Alien tech :smitten:

We've done that before
 
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Let us withdraw first if NK dismental Nukes it is fair deal for both parties

If US kept it ego only people suffer

If NK Dont dismantel US can comeback anytime

South Korea would need to agree first and foremost, it would not be a unilateral deal between the US and NK, that's what I meant by including South Korea.

Given NK has invaded SK unprovoked before, I don't think they'd trust them enough to agree.

Moving troops and supplies is not instantaneous as well. Both Leaving and coming back would take time, time North Korea could exploit.

Frankly at this point our trust in NK is 0. Every time they have come for peace talks and nuclear talks, they have reneged.

Removing troops from the DMZ does not mean removing troops from the country btw, so when I say mutual drawdowns on the DMZ, US troops would still be around.

Unless NK can make the SK government demand US withdrawal, the US is going to stay. We certainly aren't going to do it unilaterally on a deal with North Korea of all countries.
 
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North Korea's nuke is made for US troops in South Korea. It is not made for South Korean. It chooses nuke because it has nothing else to deter US troops. US should withdraw from South Korea as the latter is well capable of defending itself from North Korea.
But their is a problem, south itself is asking the US to do what is the US is doing. It is inviting the US to show off it's military muscle in the Korean peninsula. It cannot be that a N bomb meant for US troops will not harm the Korean civies.
N Korean dictatorship is brutal and over the board... peace.
 
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