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I really don't have time to educate every Chinaman thinking they are not poor. Some are even saying explosive population growth is good here. If you have explosive population growth you need explosive growth rates and as many suspect China is cooking the books and growth rates are even lower than they reported. When, not if, China faces economic crises it won't get its back straight anymore. In other words, China had its best time.

STRATFOR: “CHINA WILL COLLAPSE” | PRAGMATIC CAPITALISM

East-Asia is Japanese domain. They will need resources and population for their economy and they will reach their goals in the region because that is their altaic destiny.
 
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Turkish members please stop making fun of yourself and your country ,, you and anyone from EU has no match for China , either militarily or economically ... but first I want to say something to Chinese members , stop abusing muslims or islam . I read some disturbing post from Chinese members in early pages ..
for turk brothers , you guys should know that china is now different , even US has debt on china .. so economically they are bigger than your turkey and other EU nations ... I really respect turkey as a close ally of Pakistan but in case of any military adventure from US and its ally against china we will support Chinese ..
Chinese are not alone in this region , if china and Russia stand up against US and EU , you can only imagine what they are capable of ...
for Chinese brothers , you should not worry we got your back :D
similar to that in case of any country attack KSA or Turkey we will support our brothers , but stop using bad language about country , civilization and religion ...

P.s for turk members please stop cheering on the ottoman empire which is long gone now , and now turkey is a complete different country , there was turk who established a caliphate in world as Ottoman empire and today turkey is trying to be a part of EU , and they are humiliating you from decade by rejecting ...
as far as japan and south korea is concern they are nothing but puppets of US , they do whatever their Master , uncle sam ask them to do ... they don't even go to pee without taking permission of US ... japan and Germany once a huge civilizations and militaries but that's long gone ... stop living in past and face the reality ... China is on the edge of becoming the Super power , they are only behind US , because of Less warships and Air craft Carriers ... and I know they are working on it.......
and also anyone here who thinks china has no ally , if in case of US aggression to Chinese Russia will intervene ...I think Russians are enough to give a huge Nightmare to whole EU ....
 
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The fact that this piss-poor attempt of a troll thread reached 7 pages shows that people still haven't familiarized themselves with the correct procedure. Don't respond - just report every single post. This rotten kebab has been banned countless times before, and he will get banned again.
 
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LOL, cheaper labor can not replace the intelligence. The Chinese did not just export cloth or shoes, we exporting computers, cars, smartphones, aircrafts, ships etc hi-tech electronic and mechanical products. China has more advanced tech and skills than ur thought. We producing everything, is there anything u can find out no "Made in China" logo/ mark ?



Oops .. ............we thought China =
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...Fun little fact, Yankees lost the Korean War.

Well the Chinese and Koreans sure didn't win. Have you seen North Korea lately ? The retarded fetal alcohol syndrome stricken illegitimate step-child of China and Russia. If you call that 'winning', I want to lose.:rofl:
 
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Turkish members please stop making fun of yourself and your country ,, you and anyone from EU has no match for China , either militarily or economically ... but first I want to say something to Chinese members , stop abusing muslims or islam . I read some disturbing post from Chinese members in early pages ..
for turk brothers , you guys should know that china is now different , even US has debt on china .. so economically they are bigger than your turkey and other EU nations ... I really respect turkey as a close ally of Pakistan but in case of any military adventure from US and its ally against china we will support Chinese ..
Chinese are not alone in this region , if china and Russia stand up against US and EU , you can only imagine what they are capable of ...
for Chinese brothers , you should worry we got your back :D
similar to that in case of any country attack KSA or Turkey we will support our brothers , but stop using bad language about country , civilization and religion ...

P.s for turk members please stop cheering on the ottoman empire which is long gone now , and now turkey is a complete different country , there was turk who established a caliphate in world as Ottoman empire and today turkey is trying to be a part of EU , and they are humiliating you from decade by rejecting ...
as far as japan and south korea is concern they are nothing but puppets of US , they do whatever their Master , uncle sam ask them to do ... they don't even go to pee without taking permission of US ... japan and Germany once a huge civilizations and militaries but that's long gone ... stop living in past and face the reality ... China is on the edge of becoming the Super power , they are only behind US , because of Less warships and Air craft Carriers ... and I know they are working on it.......
and also anyone here who thinks china has no ally , if in case of US aggression to Chinese Russia will intervene ...I think Russians are enough to give a huge Nightmare to whole EU ....
Nothing true at all in what you wrote nobody here wants the Ottoman empire back.
And neither South Korea nor Japan are pawns of the US
 
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Nothing true at all in what you wrote nobody here wants the Ottoman empire back.
And neither South Korea nor Japan are pawns of the US

well for your first statement , its not that no one wants ottoman empire back , its that no one can bring it back ....
and for second statement , you are free to disagree with me sir ... but sometimes reality hurts
 
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well for your first statement , its not that no one wants ottoman empire back , its that no one can bring it back ....
and for second statement , you are free to disagree with me sir ... but sometimes reality hurts
This is not reality after looking at Chinas history with Korea and Japan i can understand why they work with the US
 
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Bro, I am Bangladeshi, not Chinese.

I have been to Xinjiang, Urumqi, drove north to Altai city and flew down to Kashgar and drove to remote Kyrgyz areas. I have met many Uighur, Kyrgyz and Kazakhs there. In several trips I spent close to 2 months and made some life long Uighur friends. I know what Chinese are doing in Xinjiang, I have seen first hand. Whatever Chinese is doing there, does not justify the terrorist attacks, which I am sure is externally instigated and funded.

Japanese have no hope of winning against China or take over anything, they are one tenth the population of China, they have reached the limit of their human and economic development, and China is still growing 7.5% a year. I am sorry to say bro, you are mistaken about your impression about Japan. Even Koreans are beating Japan in many sectors like electronics and cars. Like I said Japan had one chance when China was weak and they blew it.

Those extremists are willing to stir up the tension between Hans and Uighurs.

They want to stir up the resentment of the majority Han Chinese towards Uighurs, so they can justify the independence of Xinjiang.

Of course, we are not stupid of falling into their little trap.
 
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This is not reality after looking at Chinas history with Korea and Japan i can understand why they work with the US

sir if you go for history than why japan and Germany is working with US , who Fcuk their country ??? strange isn't it ???
japan , Germany and south korea simply cant go against the will of US ,
all of these countries are very advance , Germany is one of my favorite country , but its reality that now they are nothing but pets of US , recently their president phones were tapped by US agency and they cant do anything .. just sit and protest with Obama ..
for japan ... no comment :(
 
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Those extremists are willing to stir up the tension between Hans and Uighurs.

They want to stir up the resentment of the majority Han Chinese towards Uighurs, so they can justify the independence of Xinjiang.

Of course, we are not stupid of falling into their little trap.
After what your chinese countrymen wrote on this and other Threads i wouldnt bet on it
 
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After what your chinese countrymen wrote on this and other Threads i wouldnt bet on it

They are trolls, and they are nobody to affect the policy makers in China.

Uighur's culture is always being promoted in a positive light, and do you feel these people are getting oppressed?


As i said before, the terrorists are trolls just like OP here, they want us to fall into their trap, while we Chinese aren't stupid either.
 
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As Indian you must admit, we Indians are Western Pawns.

How else would India have had the Hainan...........oops.........Hubli incident

Hainan Island incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And do not forget the humiliating Belgrade.....oops.........Brunei embassy bombing

U.S. bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unless we Indians start thinking like Chinese, we will always lose and never be victorious like the CHinese were in 1971 war, where they took over Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh from us

Thats why you Indians were colonised by the muslims and happily lived under western rule for centuries without ever protesting.

Why else would every western empire consider India an ally? Because the Indians love being a slave to the white man.

India was already throughly crushed and defeated in the only war between China and India.
Thats a humiliation you Indians have been living with for 50 years.
When our troops entered India last April, we saw how much fight the gutless Indian military truely has :coffee:

Funny how Indians laughing at us when in every major geopolitical event they love siding with western empires like a bunch of helpless slaves :lol:

Oh boy you hit in to their sensitive parts.That was funny:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Wasn't as funny as the 1962 mauling :lol:

After what your chinese countrymen wrote on this and other Threads i wouldnt bet on it

Who wrote?

Nothing true at all in what you wrote nobody here wants the Ottoman empire back.
And neither South Korea nor Japan are pawns of the US

South Korea and Japan are colonies of the US.
This is a fact.
Any country that has foreign military bases in a pawn.

Well the Chinese and Koreans sure didn't win. Have you seen North Korea lately ? The retarded fetal alcohol syndrome stricken illegitimate step-child of China and Russia. If you call that 'winning', I want to lose.:rofl:

We kicked the Yankees out of NK.
Our military gained land, you lost land after getting smashed by our volunteer army.

I really don't have time to educate every Chinaman thinking they are not poor. Some are even saying explosive population growth is good here. If you have explosive population growth you need explosive growth rates and as many suspect China is cooking the books and growth rates are even lower than they reported. When, not if, China faces economic crises it won't get its back straight anymore. In other words, China had its best time.

STRATFOR: “CHINA WILL COLLAPSE” | PRAGMATIC CAPITALISM

East-Asia is Japanese domain. They will need resources and population for their economy and they will reach their goals in the region because that is their altaic destiny.

China will never collapse, its our birth right to rule Asia and thats exactly where things are headed.
No body has the power to stop China.
Chinese economy is already the largest and our government budgets alone is bigger than the economies of most countries.

Nothing, absolutely nothing will stop China.
It's our god given right to be number 1 power in Asia and by 2030 that will happen.

Keep crying Turk boy, because you know China is unstoppable.
 
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@cnleio middle class in China is very low. Most of Chinese have to get by with couple of bucks. And the ones that escaped the apple factory go abroad to talk about how great China is.
China is country without friends. Other than rogue states like North Korea who are your allies? Who will jump before a bullet for you? Nobody. Japan is natural dominant power in the region and all Chinese neighbors gravitating towards China. Japan will have their hegemony sooner or later. Also certain peoples in China won't have problem accepting Japanese power. Japan will use economy to turn certain regions against Beijng. Japan won't be stopped by US this time..

Chinese middle class is bigger than the Yankee middle class.
This is a fact.

China fights solo and wins solo like in the Korean War. We humiliated the Yankees and 16 of its allies and didn't need a single ally to help us.

Think again. It is already happening. China will be replaced by human respecting labor source countries.

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RealClearWorld - The 16 Countries That Will Replace China

We are already moving up the value chain.
China now exports more high tech capital intensive goods than labour intensive.
You are an economic noob.
 
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How Turkey Went From 'Zero Problems' to Zero Friends
And lost its leverage everywhere.
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Not so long ago, Turkey seemed to have found the elusive formula for foreign policy success. Its newly-adopted philosophy, "zero problems with neighbors,"won praise both at home and abroad as Ankara reengaged with the Middle East following a half century of estrangement. It expanded business and trade links with Arab states, as well as Iran, lifted visa restrictions with neighboring countries, and even helped mediate some of the region's toughest disputes, brokering talks between Syria and Israel, Fatah and Hamas, and Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Just a few years later, in the wake of the Arab Spring and its aftermath, that once-reliable formula is starting to look like alchemy. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has now burned his bridges with the military regime in Egypt, squabbled with Gulf monarchies for refusing to stand by deposed Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy, and started a war of words with Israel for having a hand in the coup that removed Morsy from power.

For a fleeting moment, Egypt was the centerpiece of Turkey's foreign policy in the Arab world. When Erdogan visited Cairo in September 2011, after the revolution that toppled Hosni Mubarak, he arrived to a hero's welcome, feted not only as the first major world leader to call on him to step down but as a regional power broker. That has now all changed: Turkey and Egypt pulled their ambassadors from each country amidst the dispute, and Erdogan publicly slammed the new government in Cairo. "Either Bashar [al-Assad] or [Egyptian army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi], there is no difference between them," he said last week. "I am saying that state terrorism is currently underway in Egypt."

This week, Erdogan dragged Israel into the dispute, saying that Israel was "behind" the coup in Cairo. The evidence for this perfidy, his office would later confirm, was a 2011 video of former Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy discussing the Arab Spring.

Former Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman shot back at Erdogan on Wednesday, saying that "everyone who hears [Erdogan's] hateful words and incitement understands beyond a doubt that he follows in the footsteps of Goebbels." Not to be outdone, an Egyptian government spokesman slammed Erdogan as a "Western agent."

Such disputes have left Turkey watchers wondering if Erdogan's bombastic approach is undermining his effectiveness. "Turkey did the right thing" by deploring the Egyptian coup, a former high-ranking Turkish diplomat told me, but found itself "on the wrong side of the international community."

Ankara should have thrown its weight around well before the Muslim Brotherhood was ousted from power, the diplomat added. "Turkey put too much emphasis on the success story of democracy in Egypt and did not see properly the wrong things that were being done by the Morsy regime."

The truth of the matter is that it was always only a matter of time before Turkey's heralded "zero problems" policy foundered. Having zero problems meant keeping your nose out of other countries' domestic affairs, and even cozying up to regional strongmen. That was possible so long as the regional status quo held: Turkey kept mum on post-election violence in Iran in 2009, for instance, and nurtured an alliance with Syria's Assad before the bloody revolt in that country. And in Libya, Erdogan had been only too happy to ignore Muammar al-Qaddafi's dismal human rights record, if that was the price to pay for Turkish businessmen to ink construction deals with his regime.

By blowing the regional status quo into oblivion, the Arab Spring forced Turkey out of this policy of non-interference. Ankara has struggled with the notion that it could not bend the region to its will: In Libya, before it ended up helping unseat Qaddafi, Turkey argued that the West had no business intervening against him. In Syria, it has broken completely with Assad, embroiling itself in a conflict that shows no sign of ending. And in Egypt, of course, it is setting itself on a collision course with the most populous state in the Arab world.

The extent to which Turkey has since ditched its softly-softly approach to the region has been surprising. One of the commandments of "zero problems" was what Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu referred to as "equidistance" -- that is, the refusal to take sides in regional disputes. This was always something of a myth, particularly when it came to the Israeli-Palestine dispute, where the government seldom missed a chance to bolster its regional and Islamic credentials by slighting the Israelis. But in the wake of the Arab Spring, equidistance appears to have gone into the gutter.

It's not only in Egypt where Turkey is now seen as a partisan actor, rather than a neutral problem-solver. In Iraq, it has openly defied Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government, accusing it of fomenting sectarian strife and going behind its back to negotiate oildeals with the Kurdish Regional Government, which administers the country's north. In Syria, it has lent unqualified support to the anti-regime rebels, letting them operate freely on its soil, turning a blind eye to their atrocities, and reportedlycriticizing the United States for branding the al Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra a terrorist group.

The former Turkish diplomat said that Ankara was right to support the demise of President Bashar al-Assad's regime, but deplored the ham-fisted way that it went about it. "Turkey was right to side with the people against the dictator, but it could have stopped there," he said. "By burning all bridges with the regime, Turkey lost its leverage with Assad." And when the international community, wary as the rebels' ranks swelled with jihadists, shied away from lending further support, "Turkey, to use a football term, found itself offside."

Erdogan is struggling with a new array of foreign policy challenges in other parts of the world, too. Turkey's image in the West took a beating this summer with the protests in Gezi Park. Erdogan's decision to put down the demonstrations with riot police, tear gas and water cannons undermined his relationship with the European Union: In late June, in the midst of the post-Gezi crackdown, Brussels decided to postpone a new round of accession talks with Ankara until October. Erdogan himself, meanwhile, has come under scathing criticism in the American press.

Turkey has done virtually nothing to undo the damage. Instead, officials have accused Western countries of orchestrating the protests and various "dark forces" -- including what Erdogan cryptically calls the international "interest rate lobby" -- of bankrolling them. The prime minister's new top advisor, Yigit Bulut, has no qualms about calling the European Union "a loser headed for a wholesale collapse" while Egemen Bagis, the very minister responsible for the accession talks, quipped, "If we have to, we could tell them, 'Get lost'."

While Turkey's foreign policy struggles in the Middle East may have been inevitable, its isolation elsewhere seems self-inflicted. Today, the country risks returning to the mindset of the 1990s, when tensions abounded with Arab and European countries, conspiracy theories poisoned the political debate, and Turks -- convinced they were a country under siege -- repeated faithfully, "The Turk has no friend but the Turk." Erdogan, it seems, has taken his country from "zero problems" to international headaches as far as the eye can see.

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How Turkey Went From 'Zero Problems' to Zero Friends
 
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