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U.K. pass bill to remove citizenship without notice

the tide can turn in the next election when labor wins and decides that gujrati people are terrorists or North Indians are terrorists because of Kashmir ….. its upper dangerous to allow politicians to decide who is a good citizen and who is not ….. this same rule can be used against polish who speak against the Goverment …… so removing a naturalized citizen is an extremely bad idea

I think this bill is to target the Khalistan Sikhs.
 
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I think this bill is to target the Khalistan Sikhs.

the Khalistan’s are less of a problem here, said that the point I wanted to make was that these laws are pure evil and all should fight this we are all in this together

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The British government is escalating its assault on democratic rights, quietly introducing new amendments into its authoritarian Nationality and Borders Bill as it passes through report stage.
The latest update, noted in the UK’s media only by the Guardian, would further strengthen the state’s ability to revoke citizenship, without even needing to give notice of their actions. The new provision could be applied retrospectively to people deprived of citizenship before it became law.
The 111-page Bill is at committee stage ahead of its third reading in the House of Commons. It is due to receive royal assent in the spring and become law.
The power to strip citizenship has been steadily extended over the last two decades. Although provision existed in law prior to the Labour government’s Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002, in practice no deprivation powers were used between 1973 and 2002. Before 2002, the law only allowed deprivation of citizenship from naturalised citizens, not citizens by birth.
Tony Blair’s 1997-2007 Labour government extended the power to all British citizens, including birth citizens, in cases deemed “prejudicial” to national interests.
Since then, successive governments have further relaxed the legal constraints and broadened the range of justifications. Labour led the way. A 2006 amendment authorised deprivation of citizenship if it was “conducive to the public good.”
This has formed the basis for attacks on rights over the last decade, with successive Tory administrations linking the provision ever more closely to immigration. For the first time, the 2014 Immigration Act allowed for citizenship deprivation even where it might cause statelessness.
It set three conditions if statelessness might result: it only covered naturalised citizens; it applied to “seriously prejudicial” conduct; and the Secretary of State should have “reasonable grounds” for thinking the person can acquire citizenship elsewhere.
The number of deprivations of citizenship has risen drastically as a result. A Freedom of Information (FoI) request revealed that 81 deprivation orders were issued between 2011 and 2015. There were 14 in 2016, followed by 104 in 2017.
The government has already signalled its intentions. In 2019, then Home Secretary Sajid Javid revoked the citizenship of Shamima Begum, who had left Britain in 2015 as a 15-year-old schoolgirl to join, after being groomed online, the Islamic State (IS) group in Syria. Rendering her effectively stateless was justified on the grounds that she would be entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship.
The Bangladeshi government rejected this, as she had never visited the country, had no Bangladeshi passport, and had never applied for one. They said if Begum had been involved with IS in Pakistan she would face the death penalty: “If anyone is found to be involved with terrorism,” said Abdul Momen, Bangladeshi Minister for Foreign Affairs, “We have a simple rule. There will be capital punishment. And nothing else.”
Her case was used to generate a xenophobic and anti-Muslim storm and was a test case for further attacks. Israeli journalists have noted that all Jews, who are entitled to Israeli citizenship if they emigrate, could easily be deprived of British citizenship under the terms of the amendment.
Clause 9 of the current Bill, which was added without any discussion earlier this month, extends the provision, allowing the government to evade “Notice of a decision to deprive a person of citizenship” if that is not “reasonably practicable.” It also exempts the government from responsibility for notifying the person if this is deemed in the interests of national security, diplomatic relations or otherwise in the public interest.
This discretionary approach would augment the Home Secretary’s draconian powers. It was presaged by a 2018 provision allowing the government to “notify” someone simply by placing a copy of the order on their file if their whereabouts were unknown.
Now the requirement for notification has been eliminated altogether in cases where the home secretary deems it necessary. From the wording in the Bill, it seems this provision can also be applied retrospectively if an individual was not notified before the clause became law, which casts doubt on the possibility of appealing the decision.
May Foa, director of human rights organisation Reprieve, said the new clause would give Home Secretary Priti Patel “unprecedented power to remove your citizenship in secret, without even having to tell you, and effectively deny you an appeal. Under this regime, a person accused of speeding would be afforded more rights than someone at risk of being deprived of their British nationality. This once again shows how little regard this government has for the rule of law.”
Emily Ramsden of advocacy group Rights and Security International told Middle East Eye, “Allowing the government to strip people of citizenship without even telling them would deepen the already Kafkaesque struggle of people deprived of citizenship—most of whom are likely from migrant communities—to protect their rights against abuses of power that are allowed to go unchecked by independent judges.”
It is a deliberate removal of those rights. The Nazis stripped Jews and political opponents of their regime of their citizenship to deprive them of their basic legal and democratic rights. In the post-war period, there has been a consensus view of citizenship, cited by Ramsden, as “the right to have rights.”
Johnson’s government explicitly rejects this. In a typically underhanded statement, a Home Office official described British citizenship as “a privilege, not a right.” The Home Office justified amending the law “so citizenship can be deprived where it is not practicable to give notice, for example if there is no way of communicating with the person,” although this repressive condition already exists in law.
The government denies the Bill extends its scope to deprive citizenship, but the amendment is part of a raft of measures that tear up international legal obligations. The Bill is draft legislation of an autocratic despotism. A team of leading immigration lawyers have called it the “biggest legal assault on international refugee law ever seen in the UK,” breaching international and domestic law in at least 10 ways.
Patel has seized on last weekend’s terrorist bombing in a carpark at Liverpool hospital to attack both the asylum system and any rule of law based on democratic rights. The bombing, she said, reflected “how dysfunctional” the asylum system is, and how “we need to change” a “professional legal services industry [that] has based itself on rights of appeal, going to the courts day in, day out at the expense of the taxpayers through legal aid.”
The attack by the Home Office on lawyers emphasises there is to be no legal recourse for anyone. The Bill would criminalise anyone arriving in the UK by “irregular means” and “illegal routes.”
This is already in violation of the UN Refugee Convention and the European Convention of Human Rights. The Bill further criminalises anyone who seeks to save the lives of those in trouble during such perilous journeys. Its fascistic “ pushback ” policy will grant immunity to Border Force staff if migrants die in the English Channel in the process of its enforcement. In breach of all maritime laws, the provision demonstrates the government’s determination to make deliberate acts of murder official policy.
The Home Office is seeking to impose even more sweeping attacks on the right to asylum, as part of its declared “hostile environment” against refugees. The immediate deportation of detained migrants to a processing centre in Albania is being proposed, according to plans leaked to the Times on Thursday. This emulates the Australian government’s so-called “ Pacific solution ” —cruel, indefinite detention in remote locations. The Times reported, “Albanian ministers played down the report of an agreement today, although The Times understands that the talks are continuing. Edi Rama, the Albanian prime minister…”
“Offshore processing” is significantly more expensive even than detention in Britain but is part of attempts to tear up legal obligations. Detaining migrants at centres against their will would breach international law. The newspaper said that “Plans to fly illegal Channel arrivals out of the UK within seven days would cost £100,000 per asylum seeker.”

Source: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/11/19/nabb-n19.html

Awesome news, Muslim terrorist and sympathizer's should be kicked out of Western countries and sent to the wonderful, rich Muslim countries where they can enjoy all the rights of their fellow Muslim citizens.
 
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Regardless of your views it is a tyrannical power. But the UK is going down the crapper in all aspects of life, so I only expect the vile bigots to grab more power in the next couple of years.
 
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Terrorists don't get the same rights as normal citizens. Stripping the citizenship will allow the UK government to deal with the terrorists accordingly.
You're implying that terrorism can only be imported and home grown terrorists is not terrorism
 
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the tide can turn in the next election when labor wins and decides that gujrati people are terrorists or North Indians are terrorists because of Kashmir ….. its upper dangerous to allow politicians to decide who is a good citizen and who is not ….. this same rule can be used against polish who speak against the Goverment …… so removing a naturalized citizen is an extremely bad idea




read the above response depending on who is in power this equation can change



in case of a natural born Uk resident it was decided to move th,e back to Bangladesh …… this could happen to any of you including Indians irrespective of what you think



yes we remember those black days when the conservatives thought it was ok to strip nationalities of people who had a dual nationality of France and supported Quebec independence.….. the idea that you can strip citizenship without a judge and a legal process is preposterous! In Canada history only 2-3 people have lost their citizenship and those people were convicted of war crimes. Otherwise we as a society should deal with the people who have lived here and have different thinking then the main stream. Alternatively let’s deport all the anti Vaxers …… this law should be fought at every level.

imagine if they start deporting citizens back because they got traffic tickets to show some politicians ability to look though

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When people talk about this why do they use british Bangladeshi as an example of revoking citizenship. There's been far more brit paks that joined isis and first to be convicted in Britain of joining isis is a pak woman
 
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the Khalistan’s are less of a problem here, said that the point I wanted to make was that these laws are pure evil and all should fight this we are all in this together

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Yes. All browns are at risk of losing their citizenship.
You're implying that terrorism can only be imported and home grown terrorists is not terrorism

When it is home grown it is not classified as terrorism. So not an issue.
 
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When people talk about this why do they use british Bangladeshi as an example of revoking citizenship. There's been far more brit paks that joined isis and first to be convicted in Britain of joining isis is a pak woman
??? He’s using it as a example because the bill was passed due to shamima begum who was British bangali, secondly he’s using it as a example, where does Pakistanis come in this? That’s like when dumbasses like you use Asians as a example of grooming gangs when majority of them are Caucasians. Guess you only speak up when it fits your agenda 🤣🤷‍♂️
the most well known jihadi in the uk is jihadi john, who was a Caucasian male, he should’ve used him as a example since he was the most notable of the lot, don’t you agree?
 
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Yes. All browns are at risk of losing their citizenship.


When it is home grown it is not classified as terrorism. So not an issue.

again in my example this law can be used against all Canadians brown or otherwise

see we browns are only 5-10% of the population in the west. In England the immigrants were polish and other Europeans that the English hate

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There are limitations what they can do if one is a citizen. Once they strip the citizenship a thorough background check could be done to collect the evidence and deliver swift justice.
what a weak arguement -
there is a reason, anti terror laws & anti terror courts exist.
Stripping someone off nationality will ensure nothing but injustice and inhumane treatment at black sites
 
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U.K. got, what they wanted 3 stooges to do there dirty policies in U.K. against the U.K. citizens. First joker is the mayor Sadeeq Khan has implemented a unpopular diesel ULEZ tax, then health secretary Sajid Javid threats of making millions people lose jobs of not taking the jabs. And then you got a Ugandan born Indian refugee Home Secretary Patel who is a right winger nutter hates all none whites lol
 
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U.K. got, what they wanted 3 stooges to do there dirty policies in U.K. against the U.K. citizens. First joker is the mayor Sadeeq Khan has implemented a unpopular diesel ULEZ tax, then health secretary Sajid Javid threats of making millions people lose jobs of not taking the jabs. And then you got a Ugandan born Indian refugee Home Secretary Patel who is a right winger nutter hates all none whites lol
UK politics never been more fun than when desis came.
 
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