Type 076 Amphibious Assault Ship (LHD?) News & Discussions

[clarkgap]

Over the past several month, some well known sources like @yankeesama的帧察小队 has indicated that PLAN plan to build a new type of Amphibious Assault Ship which operate the UAVs instead of the SVTOL like F-35B. In 29th July, POP3 said PLAN is going to build a new LHA ship - type 076. (http://www.top81cn.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1182182&extra=page=1&page=1&m=2)

Seven documents about XX6 (076?) program already been posted on the official platform of Procurement bidding for PLA:

1. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1262651908966850562.shtml
2. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1265163086971015170.shtml
3. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1265163242520547330.shtml
4. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1271368456409722882.shtml?v=20200612170715
5. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1281141276601761794.shtml?v=20200709162057
6. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1285132769307475969.shtml
7. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1285132769173258241.shtml

Some important entries:

Part-1:
(56).电CXX装置装X结构性能计算及结构强度计算指南 (Electromagnetic XX device)

(58).XXX升降机装X结构性能计算及结构强度计算指南 (Munitions Elevator)

(63).边岛式上层建筑结构性能计算 (Island)

Part-2:
(24).中压直流综合电力系统磁场特征及防护技术研究 (Medium voltage DC integrated power system)

(33).基于无人J甲板的全J多功能水幕系统优化及模拟试验研究 (UAV deck)

(41).两Q攻击JHSH防护装备优化及洗消工艺研究 (Amphibious Assault Ship)

Part-4:
(8).30吨级舷内升降机研改 (30 tons flight deck elevator)

(17).1600kN级主推力轴承研改 (1600kN Main Thrust shaft)

(19).6MW级柴油机进、排气消音器研制 (6MW Diesel Engine)

(21).21MW级燃气轮机进气过滤装置改进研制（部套件）(21MW Gas Turbine)

Part-6:
(10).电CTS槽通风换气装置研制 (EMALS)

 

[Figaro]

Over the past several month, some well known sources like @yankeesama的帧察小队 has indicated that PLAN plan to build a new type of Amphibious Assault Ship which operate the UAVs instead of the SVTOL like F-35B. In 29th July, POP3 said PLAN is going to build a new LHA ship - type 076. (http://www.top81cn.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1182182&extra=page=1&page=1&m=2)

Seven documents about XX6 (076?) program already been posted on the official platform of Procurement bidding for PLA:

1. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1262651908966850562.shtml
2. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1265163086971015170.shtml
3. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1265163242520547330.shtml
4. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1271368456409722882.shtml?v=20200612170715
5. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1281141276601761794.shtml?v=20200709162057
6. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1285132769307475969.shtml
7. http://www.weain.mil.cn/cggg/jggg/1285132769173258241.shtml

Some important entries:

Part-1:
(56).电CXX装置装X结构性能计算及结构强度计算指南 (Electromagnetic XX device)

(58).XXX升降机装X结构性能计算及结构强度计算指南 (Munitions Elevator)

(63).边岛式上层建筑结构性能计算 (Island)

Part-2:
(24).中压直流综合电力系统磁场特征及防护技术研究 (Medium voltage DC integrated power system)

(33).基于无人J甲板的全J多功能水幕系统优化及模拟试验研究 (UAV deck)

(41).两Q攻击JHSH防护装备优化及洗消工艺研究 (Amphibious Assault Ship)

Part-4:
(8).30吨级舷内升降机研改 (30 tons flight deck elevator)

(17).1600kN级主推力轴承研改 (1699kN Main Thrust shaft)

(19).6MW级柴油机进、排气消音器研制 (6MW Diesel Engine)

(21).21MW级燃气轮机进气过滤装置改进研制（部套件）(21MW Gas Turbine)

Part-6:
(10).电CTS槽通风换气装置研制 (EMALS)

Hey welcome back! Haven't seen you around in a very long time

 

[aliaselin]

I think it should be called as "unmanned assault weapon carrier".

 

[Daniel808]

This is the Bidding Announcement. (So This is Official)

Interesting points :

CTS EMALS Catapult

21 MW Gas Turbine

Inboard Elevators

MVDC


If this is real, they are using MVDC (Direct Current) that's mean China's EMALS Technology is much superior than US MVAC (Alternative Current) EMALS.

Credit to Arineai @sdf

 

[Figaro]

If this is real, they are using MVDC (Direct Current) that's mean China's EMALS Technology is much superior than US MVAC (Alternative Current) EMALS.

Credit to Arineai @sdf

Why would it not be real

Btw, here is Yankee's article on the 076
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/fD7vdGkSnT5H4ydD68n4BQ

 

[Feng Leng]

Can the Type 076 submerge?

 

[52051]

There are other sources in China mentioned that Type-076 will be one hell of a LHA.

The ship will has a displacement of over 60,000 or more tonnes, the largest LHA in the world, even larger than most CVs saved for the super carriers.

And the LHA will equip with EMAL and all advanced UAVs, very exciting development.

According to the sources, the arrival of Type-076 will not stop the production of Type-072 and Type-075, or future Chinese super carriers, basically we want them all

Its one hottest topic in China's military fan BBS now

The other hot topic around China now is the confirmation from some reliable sources that China has two stealth bombers projects running at rapid progress, one supersonic and one subsonic

 

[IblinI]

There are other sources in China mentioned that Type-076 will be one hell of a LHA.

The ship will has a displacement of over 60,000 or more tonnes, the largest LHA in the world, even larger than most CVs saved for the super carriers.

And the LHA will equip with EMAL and all advanced UAVs, very exciting development.

According to the sources, the arrival of Type-076 will not stop the production of Type-072 and Type-075, or future Chinese super carriers, basically we want them all

Its one hottest topic in China's military fan BBS now

The other hot topic around China now is the confirmation from some reliable sources that China has two stealth bombers projects running at rapid progress, one supersonic and one subsonic

the other one is more like a stealth striker for tatical mission.

 

[Figaro]

There are other sources in China mentioned that Type-076 will be one hell of a LHA.

The ship will has a displacement of over 60,000 or more tonnes, the largest LHA in the world, even larger than most CVs saved for the super carriers.

And the LHA will equip with EMAL and all advanced UAVs, very exciting development.

According to the sources, the arrival of Type-076 will not stop the production of Type-072 and Type-075, or future Chinese super carriers, basically we want them all

Its one hottest topic in China's military fan BBS now

The other hot topic around China now is the confirmation from some reliable sources that China has two stealth bombers projects running at rapid progress, one supersonic and one subsonic

60,000 or more tonnes for a LHA? Then I can only see a 100,000 tonne nuclear powered aircraft carrier in the future ... looks like China is indeed pursuing a Ford style super carrier.

 

[IblinI]

60,000 or more tonnes for a LHA? Then I can only see a 100,000 tonne nuclear powered aircraft carrier in the future ... looks like China is indeed pursuing a Ford style super carrier.

still to be confirmed.

 

[Feng Leng]

60,000 or more tonnes for a LHA? Then I can only see a 100,000 tonne nuclear powered aircraft carrier in the future ... looks like China is indeed pursuing a Ford style super carrier.

The ultimate breakthrough for the Type 76 would be to internalize the flight deck and make it submersible. It only surfaces when launching and recovering.

 

[obj 705A]

I will just through the previous comments here:

I don't want to keep talking forever about how I don't think this vessel will exist so I just want to say it once more, regarding the chances of having this Type 076 CVL, I'm ten times more pessimistic than even Gordon Chang who still to this day continues saying "China collapse" even as China's GDP became more than double what it was.
I will only believe it when I see this CVL.

Any way moving on , just for the sake of argument let us say the CVL does exist, why the F are so many people on CJDBY calling it "drone mothership"? That is just.. heavy aircrafts can take off from a ski jump with reduced load which is why every major country dreams of having catapults so that they can launch whatever they want, if the Type 076 is equipped with catapults then it will launch the same kind of aircrafts launched from the Type 003 just in much lower numbers.

Also one more thing, when poor countries want a CV , they build a small one (CVL) because they can't afford the CVN, however when a large power that can afford multiple CVNs starts building CVLs.. that means they want such a very large number of aircraft carriers that they decided to build CVLs alongside the CVNs.

It seems the PLAN has reached a conclusion (perhaps a long time ago) that modern naval war will be fought mainly with aircraft carriers instead of with DDGs.

They say it will have EMALS so it won't need STOVL.
Again if it has catapults it will launch all kinds of aircraft manned and unmanned, why the F do so many people keep on saying that it is just for drones!

As a LHA, it may don't have a sufficiently large storage/dock to keep manned fighters in, they have their priority through.

Dude wtf are you talking about, not enough space? It is no less than 45k tons, if the America class has enough space why shouldn't an equally sized (or perhaps even larger) CVL not have enough space! It has enough space guaranteed 100% period.

I don't think you quite understood my point, yeah I get it that it will use EMALS (if the ship exists) , what I was talking about is how some idiots on CJDBY keep on calling it "drone mothership" , it's not a "drone mothership" if even some puny ski jump can launch heavy aircrafts like the Flankers (even if with reduced payload) then why the F the superior catapults wouldn't be able to launch them! The answer is the Type 076 will able to launch the same kind of aircrafts launched by Type 003, whether it's J-31 or any other aircraft, it will just carry them in much smaller numbers (eg: 6 J-31, 18 helis, 6 drones).

I think, of course it can launch J-35.
But it will be effective to have some J-35 instead dozens of UCAV? That's the point of this discussion

It can have both of them at the same time , so it doesn't have to chose , equipping the CVL with arresting wires and catapults will increase it's price by several hundreds of millions of dollars , then the price will increase due to the enlargement and modifications of the flight deck, does any one really think china will increase the price this much and not put stealth fighters in it!

Seriously I can't it anymore , I've read way too many stupid comments talking about how this ship will be used exclusively for drones and not carry any fighters, it's literally giving me a headache, now excuse me I will take a paracetamol, I will avoid reading or commenting on the type 076 for as long as possible and instead I will just wait till it's launched.

 

[juj06750]

Over the past several month, some well known sources like @yankeesama的帧察小队 has indicated that PLAN plan to build a new type of Amphibious Assault Ship which operate the UAVs instead of the SVTOL like F-35B. In 29th July, POP3 said PLAN is going to build a new LHA ship - type 076.

my friend, don't take it too seriously until we finally see the delivery
we've spent hundreds of billions dollars for developemt of new weapons every year; and hundreds of biddings are ongoing right now; today many chinese companies often propose development of new weapons to chinese government; and chinese government chooses one of them and gives money for it; after years, we finally see the delivery! take look at our railgun; although china tested its railgun in the late 2017, it's still nowhere; upon the time, many western media expected the upcoming type 055 to equip with the railgun but it NEVER so far

 

[obj 705A]

I know I said "I won't comment on the type 076 for as long as possible" but apparently that "as long as possible" only lasted few hours, I think one day this ship is gonna get me banned.

Design wise , if it is 60k tonnes then that will make it just a little bit smaller than the British QE , so I wouldn't be surprised if it would have the same design as the proposed CATOBAR variant of the QE, but may be somehow with just one island instead of two if that is possible.

However if it is between 40k-50k tonnes then the best design is that of the Charles De Gaul carrier.

So to any dumb@ss who thinks the Type 076 won't be able to operate MANNED AIRCRAFTS take in to account the fact that there are ships as small as the Charles De Gaul that can operate MANNED AIRCRAFTS.

 

[clarkgap]

Design wise , if it is 60k tonnes then that will make it just a little bit smaller than the British QE , so I wouldn't be surprised if it would have the same design as the proposed CATOBAR variant of the QE, but may be somehow with just one island instead of two if that is possible.

However if it is between 40k-50k tonnes then the best design is that of the Charles De Gaul carrier.

So to any dumb@ss who thinks the Type 076 won't be able to operate MANNED AIRCRAFTS take in to account the fact that there are ships as small as the Charles De Gaul that can operate MANNED AIRCRAFTS.

Type 076 is an Amphibious Assault Ship include the well deck.