Type 075 Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) News & Discussions

[Deino]

The no. 02 075 is out again ...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1446681152803131401

 

[Polestar 2]

It was Russia that refused to sell attack helicopter to China after China replicated the Su-27 technology. With Russia weapons sales on the decline, most likely China willing to pay huge sums until Kamov willing to sell the KA-52 at risk of being reverse engineered. Win-win for both, Kamov gets huge profit they need to keep its business afloat while China gets the technology transfer for heavy attack helicopter.

I doubt Russia will refused to sell ka-52. If Russia don't sell, we can convert the Z-20 into a better utility attack help onboard LHD. Remember engine bottleneck is no more since the engine install on Z-20 basically allows China to pursue a heavy attack helo.

The no. 02 075 is out again ...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1446681152803131401

Very disappointed this ship not able to commission on Oct 01.

 

[kungfugymnast]

I doubt Russia will refused to sell ka-52. If Russia don't sell, we can convert the Z-20 into a better utility attack help onboard LHD. Remember engine bottleneck is no more since the engine install on Z-20 basically allows China to pursue a heavy attack helo.

Very disappointed this ship not able to commission on Oct 01.

Powerful attack helicopter like Ka-52 has technology that China doesn't own and Z-20 engine (copy of Blackhawk) is outclassed if compared to Ka-52 engine. China still have much to pickup in terms of attack helicopter. It doesn't matter if 2nd Type 075 being commissioned later

 

[DJ_Viper]

http://www.cnshipnet.com/news/12/59682.html
According to the news, 3 Type 075 LHD Will be built for the first batch

Japan is converting it's LHD's into -35 aircraft carriers. Does China has any program of its own for VTOL aircrafts for PLAAN?

 

[Daniel808]

Japan is converting it's LHD's into -35 aircraft carriers. Does China has any program of its own for VTOL aircrafts for PLAAN?

As long as I know, it doesn't.

But China at this moment already have Type 076 LHA Programme running, which will be equipped with MVDC EMALS Catapult & Arresting Gear to launch Stealth UCAV & J-35 Stealth Fighter.

So they will goes their own way, a different way from US and Japan take

Possible Design of Type 076 LHA

Btw, Izumo doesn't have LHD (Amphibious Operation) Capability.

It's a small class carrier that would operate 12 F-35 onboard her deck

 

[sinophilia]

As long as I know, it doesn't.

But China at this moment already have Type 076 LHA Programme running, which will be equipped with MVDC EMALS Catapult & Arresting Gear to launch Stealth UCAV & J-35 Stealth Fighter.

So they will goes their own way, a different way from US and Japan take

Possible Design of Type 076 LHA
View attachment 783871

Btw, Izumo doesn't have LHD (Amphibious Operation) Capability.

It's a small class carrier that would operate 12 F-35 onboard her deck

What proof is there it'll launch J-35? Unless J-35 is coming in a VTOL variant which is probably never gonna happen.

 

[Daniel808]

What proof is there it'll launch J-35? Unless J-35 is coming in a VTOL variant which is probably never gonna happen.

EMALS & Arresting Gear

 

[kungfugymnast]

EMALS & Arresting Gear

Type 076 is still a concept that will only realise if China intended not to develop STOVL fighter at all. Fitting EMALS and arrestor cables on amphibious ship (smaller than Type003) is just not practical resulting in less space for amphibious landing assault vehicles and personnel. Better they hire the Russian engineers that designed STOVL for F-35B where they could get 6 STOVL fighters to operate from Type 075 and future 076.

 

[casual]

Type 076 is still a concept that will only realise if China intended not to develop STOVL fighter at all. Fitting EMALS and arrestor cables on amphibious ship (smaller than Type003) is just not practical resulting in less space for amphibious landing assault vehicles and personnel. Better they hire the Russian engineers that designed STOVL for F-35B where they could get 6 STOVL fighters to operate from Type 075 and future 076.

EMALS and arrestor cables doesn't take up much space so I don't know what you are going on about. STOVL capability gimps fighters's performance and would take at least a decade to develop. China doesn't have a decade to wait for a STOVL fighter.

 

[vi-va]

As long as I know, it doesn't.

But China at this moment already have Type 076 LHA Programme running, which will be equipped with MVDC EMALS Catapult & Arresting Gear to launch Stealth UCAV & J-35 Stealth Fighter.

So they will goes their own way, a different way from US and Japan take

Possible Design of Type 076 LHA
View attachment 783871

Btw, Izumo doesn't have LHD (Amphibious Operation) Capability.

It's a small class carrier that would operate 12 F-35 onboard her deck

Possible Design of Type 076 LHA is wrong.
The landing runway can't be designed that way. The aircraft will crash.

 

[Daniel808]

Possible Design of Type 076 LHA is wrong.
The landing runway can't be designed that way. The aircraft will crash.

AVIC doesn't think so

https://twitter.com/x/status/1446158566633598983

 

[Daniel808]

A blurry image shows the Chinese Navy's second Type 075 PLANS Guangxi (LHD-32) arrived at a military port in the Eastern Theater Navy. It’s on schedule to enter service soon. (Image via wb/捣蛋就捣蛋)

 

[Daniel808]

The Third one (LHD-33) also left for Sea Trials

https://twitter.com/x/status/1463900220647882753

 

[Shotgunner51]

MVDC EMALS Catapult & Arresting Gear to launch Stealth UCAV & J-35

Bro in my opinion UCAV yes but J-35 unlikely, size of EMALS/AR will likely be limited to 5~10 tons aka "mini" version, after all 076 is fighting an amphibious warfare, it is a LHD in nature (floodable well deck, limited sail speed) and serves the needs of marine corp. The marine air wing need helos, a lot of them.

A complete/comprehensive naval air wing can only be operated from CV (001/2/3, can be assigned to the same task fleet as 076 if situation requires) which is designed to efficiently operate 40~50 tons MTOWs. LHA or "mini carrier" concept is yet to be explored, it may fit navies of smaller size but at current stage PLAN should focus on building regular CV (003) and LHD (075/076), both of these in good numbers.

AVIC doesn't think so

https://twitter.com/x/status/1446158566633598983

The AVIC animation shows GJ-11 catapulted from axial deck, but can't see angled deck and arresting gear though, still an interesting 076 concept!

 

[Daniel808]

Bro in my opinion UCAV yes but J-35 unlikely, size of EMALS/AR will likely be limited to 5~10 tons aka "mini" version, after all 076 is fighting an amphibious warfare, it is a LHD in nature (floodable well deck, limited sail speed) and serves the needs of marine corp. The marine air wing need helos, a lot of them.

A complete/comprehensive naval air wing can only be operated from CV (001/2/3, can be assigned to the same task fleet as 076 if situation requires) which is designed to efficiently operate 40~50 tons MTOWs. LHA or "mini carrier" concept is yet to be explored, it may fit navies of smaller size but at current stage PLAN should focus on building regular CV (003) and LHD (075/076), both of these in good numbers.

The AVIC animation shows GJ-11 catapulted from axial deck, but can't see angled deck and arresting gear though, still an interesting 076 concept!

Bro If that the case, they wouldn't need 30 Tonnes Class Elevator onboard Type 076 LHA

But yeah, who knows?

Every option is still on the table at this moment, until this Type 076 LHA commissioned

The Third one (LHD-33) also left for Sea Trials

https://twitter.com/x/status/1463900220647882753

https://twitter.com/x/status/1464843050325139460