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How about DF100? It's a long-range hypersonic cruise missile with a “near space” flight altitude, capable to hit a moving object more than a thousand kms away. And it's already in service with the PLA Rocket Force. I think it (or some variant) would be a good fit to the VLS on 055/052D considering its size and capability.

Possible DF100 in Type 055 ?


It is more mysterious than the Dongfeng 17, and only by its name, what is unique about the Dongfeng 100 missile?

2020-09-10

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last year’s National Day military parade can be said to impress everyone. my country’s current top long-range strike weapons can be said to have appeared one by one, and even include the Dongfeng 17 hypersonic missile and the famous Dongfeng 21D and Dongfeng 26 Wait for anti-ship ballistic missiles.
But in fact, compared to Dongfeng 17, there is a missile that has been very low-key since its appearance, and it is rarely seen on the spot. But in fact, this missile is also one of my country's killer features, which is the Dongfeng 100 supersonic. cruise missile. So, what is unique about this missile? Today, Brother Tiger will talk about this unusually low-key weaponry.

I believe many people have noticed that the full name of Dongfeng 100 is very special, and it is called a supersonic cruise missile. In the missile industry, these two terms are generally seldom combined. Take cruise missiles as an example. The general pursuit is hit accuracy and range. In this regard, the Tomahawk cruise missile of the US military and the Longsword 10 of our country are typical. When attacking ground targets, its range often exceeds thousands of kilometers. After the replacement of nuclear warheads, because the warhead is lighter and smaller, it can fill up more fuel, and its range has reached a terrifying 2500 kilometers. Sword 10 is similar. In terms of hitting accuracy, the Tomahawk cruise missile can reach the 5-meter level when GPS+ terrain matching guidance is used, and it can directly attack the enemy’s key facilities, such as the command center or reinforced aircraft. The only shortcoming of cruise missiles That is, the mobility is relatively poor and the speed is relatively slow. Take the Tomahawk as an example, its flying speed is only about 0.9 Mach, and it can easily be intercepted by ground air defense systems. For example, my country still retains a large number of antiaircraft artillery units, which are actually used to intercept incoming cruises Missile.

On the Syrian battlefield, the US military once dropped more than 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles at one time, but they were intercepted by the Russian-made air defense system equipped in Syria. Cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk, the 10 common in my country, and the Russian caliber are a problem in actual combat. It is okay to bully a small country, but it is not enough to deal with a large country with a complete air defense system.

But Dongfeng 100 is different. This missile is also a cruise missile.
It has a long range and can reach more than 1200 kilometers, but its most outstanding performance is speed. It is understood that due to the use of a new composite power unit, This allows the missile to fly at a speed of Mach 3 to 4 throughout the entire process, and it can also perform complex maneuvers at the end to increase the probability of penetration.

This is not the end, it is inseparable from the flying height that can achieve such a fast flight speed. In order to improve the penetration rate of traditional cruise missiles such as Tomahawk, it often relies on terrain matching until it adopts ultra-low-altitude flight, but it is still not difficult to intercept at the end, while Dongfeng 100 is different. Its flying height is very delicate. It happens to be located in a nearby space of 30 to 60 kilometers, which is the same as the flying height of my country's Dongfeng 17 hypersonic missile warhead. The missile at this height is very difficult to intercept. Why?

This is mainly because, ah, the current air defense system actually has a large neutral position. For example, conventional long-range air defense missiles, the maximum shooting height is often difficult to exceed 30 kilometers, and the general anti-missile interceptor, The lower limit of its shooting height is very high, often above 100 kilometers, and the middle part of the height belongs to the adjacent space. At present, only the THAAD system of the United States can intercept this high-level anti-missile system.

The reason why is very difficult to intercept is mainly due to the seeker of the anti-missile system. Since the seeker of the anti-missile interceptor outside the atmosphere does not need to consider the heating problem of the warhead at high speed, all infrared seekers are used. However, ordinary air defense systems cannot intercept high-speed targets due to the limited shooting height. In the adjacent space, there are both high speed and high temperature caused by friction, which will cause the infrared seeker to fail, so it cannot be intercepted.

Although the THAAD system's interceptor missiles can work in adjacent spaces by placing the infrared seeker on the side of the warhead to avoid high temperature areas, they have poor maneuverability and can only strike ballistic missiles, and cannot intercept DF100 at all. This kind of maneuvering target. And this is only part of the performance characteristics of Dongfeng 100. As a multi-purpose cruise missile, it can not only attack land targets, but also attack ships at sea.Fight.

Since the Dongfeng 100 cruise missile itself is launched vertically, it does not rule out the possibility of boarding warships in the future. For example, my country’s 055 destroyer has a huge vertical launch system that allows Dongfeng 100 to be directly inserted without modification.
By then, the 055 destroyer will be able to achieve precision strikes against targets at sea and land 1,000 kilometers away.
 
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DF-100 is hypersonic not supersonic. It is both problem in the translation software and in Tiger brother's claim. He is not always reliable and giving the most accurate information but he does know quite a lot more than typical military fan. Tiger brother says high supersonic. In Chinese hypersonic does not have a special word. In Chinese "hypersonic" is called "high supersonic". The DF-100 is above mach 3 or 4 speed and the cone inlet is hypersonic design.

DF-100 is not gliding vehicle like one shown with DF-17. It is just scramjet powered low hypersonic speed like mach 6 or 7. First boost to extremely high altitude and travel path is secret. United States already understand the DF-17 HGV and DF-100. Better things are secret and involve EMP cruise missiles and other electronic weapons. Shown is always meaning either the weapon is quite well known already by enemy intelligence or better is already reached service.

US was watching the full scale HGV tests already back in 2014. The testing for hypersonic was years and years before 2014 when the weapon reached service already. Shown to public in 2019, five years after already known to be in service.
 
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Revisiting the emphasis on what the weapon arsenal of a Type 055 DDG can do!

From Henri Kenhmann at East Pendulum on 2020.10.09:

A recent video from the Chinese navy once again confirms a few points that we already knew about the Type 055 destroyer:

  • the 130mm caliber gun can fire guided shells
  • the VLS can fire cruise missiles against ground targets, and anti-submarine weapons
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China’s Type 055 destroyer has anti-stealth, anti-satellite capabilities: report



By Liu Xuanzun Source: Global Times Published: 2020/10/11 18:04:41
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Photo taken on Jan. 12, 2020 shows the ceremony of the commissioning of the Nanchang, China's first Type 055 guided-missile destroyer, in the port city of Qingdao, east China's Shandong Province. The commission of Nanchang marks the Navy's leap from the third generation to the fourth generation of destroyers, according to a statement from the Navy. Photo: Xinhua

China's domestically developed 10,000 ton-class Type 055 guided missile destroyer can counter stealth aircraft and low-Earth orbit satellites, a state-owned media has recently revealed for the first time, leading Chinese experts to say on Sunday that the capabilities will give Chinese forces a key edge over their opponents in modern warfare.

The Type 055 is equipped with a dual-band radar system that has anti-stealth and anti-satellite capabilities in low-Earth orbit, China Central Television (CCTV) reported over the weekend.

The anti-satellite capability in particular has prompted discussions among military observers.

Some of the advanced radar systems produced by modern technologies can detect low-Earth orbit aircraft, which often circulate the Earth at an altitude of 300 to 500 kilometers, Wang Ya'nan, a Chinese aviation and space expert and the chief editor of Beijing-based Aerospace Knowledge magazine, told the Global Times on Sunday.

If the radar system has a high enough performance, it can not only detect, but also track the satellites, Wang said, noting that this means the radar can then guide weapons to attack the satellites.

With a displacement of more than 10,000 tons, the Type 055 is a 180-meter-long, 20-meter-wide guided missile destroyer with 112 vertical launch missile cells capable of launching a combination of surface-to-air missiles, anti-ship missiles, land-attack missiles and anti-submarine missiles, according to previous media reports.

Given the large size of the Type 055, it would be naturally able to carry a type of air-defense missile capable of reaching targets in low-Earth orbit, Wang predicted, noting that the radar system used on the Type 055 can also transmit data via data chain to land-based air-defense forces which can launch anti-satellite missiles.

In a test in 2007, China successfully destroyed a satellite, BBC reported at the time. Liu Jianchao, then spokesperson of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, confirmed the test and stressed China was committed to the peaceful development of outer space.

US aegis ships also have anti-satellite capabilities. In 2008, a Standard Missile-3 fired from the USS Lake Erie guided missile cruiser struck a crippled US spy satellite, Reuters reported at that time.

Low-Earth orbit satellites can monitor vast regions of battlefields and provide rich intelligence to their operators. In wartime, if one side can suppress hostile satellites, it can neutralize a key part of a hostile intelligence source and gain an advantage for itself, Wang said.

While it is also the first time that China's state-owned media has confirmed the Type 055's anti-stealth capability, it is not much of a surprise when compared with its anti-satellite capability, as China has already revealed several types of anti-stealth radar systems in many open occasions, military observers said.

The US has equipped its Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps with F-35 stealth fighter jets in addition to previously commissioned F-22 stealth fighter jets and B-2 stealth bombers. It is also selling a large amount of F-35s to its allies in the Asia-Pacific region.

This makes anti-stealth capability essential to countering potential threats from US stealth warplanes, analysts said.


 
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How about DF100? It's a long-range hypersonic cruise missile with a “near space” flight altitude, capable to hit a moving object more than a thousand kms away. And it's already in service with the PLA Rocket Force. I think it (or some variant) would be a good fit to the VLS on 055/052D considering its size and capability.

Pakistan should look at getting these and putting them on the last 3 of the Hangor class. A modified VLS section like on the Amur 950 design. Especially if the range is over 1000 km away. A better option then the Babur 3 SLCM at under 500 km.

1200km would be perfect to hold Delhi and Mumbai in range from the waters just off the coast of Pakistan.

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China’s Type 055 destroyer has anti-stealth, anti-satellite capabilities: report



By Liu Xuanzun Source: Global Times Published: 2020/10/11 18:04:41
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24604ac7-0e70-40a7-a518-7cd0eadb0d9c.jpeg

Photo taken on Jan. 12, 2020 shows the ceremony of the commissioning of the Nanchang, China's first Type 055 guided-missile destroyer, in the port city of Qingdao, east China's Shandong Province. The commission of Nanchang marks the Navy's leap from the third generation to the fourth generation of destroyers, according to a statement from the Navy. Photo: Xinhua

China's domestically developed 10,000 ton-class Type 055 guided missile destroyer can counter stealth aircraft and low-Earth orbit satellites, a state-owned media has recently revealed for the first time, leading Chinese experts to say on Sunday that the capabilities will give Chinese forces a key edge over their opponents in modern warfare.

The Type 055 is equipped with a dual-band radar system that has anti-stealth and anti-satellite capabilities in low-Earth orbit, China Central Television (CCTV) reported over the weekend.

The anti-satellite capability in particular has prompted discussions among military observers.

Some of the advanced radar systems produced by modern technologies can detect low-Earth orbit aircraft, which often circulate the Earth at an altitude of 300 to 500 kilometers, Wang Ya'nan, a Chinese aviation and space expert and the chief editor of Beijing-based Aerospace Knowledge magazine, told the Global Times on Sunday.

If the radar system has a high enough performance, it can not only detect, but also track the satellites, Wang said, noting that this means the radar can then guide weapons to attack the satellites.

With a displacement of more than 10,000 tons, the Type 055 is a 180-meter-long, 20-meter-wide guided missile destroyer with 112 vertical launch missile cells capable of launching a combination of surface-to-air missiles, anti-ship missiles, land-attack missiles and anti-submarine missiles, according to previous media reports.

Given the large size of the Type 055, it would be naturally able to carry a type of air-defense missile capable of reaching targets in low-Earth orbit, Wang predicted, noting that the radar system used on the Type 055 can also transmit data via data chain to land-based air-defense forces which can launch anti-satellite missiles.

In a test in 2007, China successfully destroyed a satellite, BBC reported at the time. Liu Jianchao, then spokesperson of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, confirmed the test and stressed China was committed to the peaceful development of outer space.

US aegis ships also have anti-satellite capabilities. In 2008, a Standard Missile-3 fired from the USS Lake Erie guided missile cruiser struck a crippled US spy satellite, Reuters reported at that time.

Low-Earth orbit satellites can monitor vast regions of battlefields and provide rich intelligence to their operators. In wartime, if one side can suppress hostile satellites, it can neutralize a key part of a hostile intelligence source and gain an advantage for itself, Wang said.

While it is also the first time that China's state-owned media has confirmed the Type 055's anti-stealth capability, it is not much of a surprise when compared with its anti-satellite capability, as China has already revealed several types of anti-stealth radar systems in many open occasions, military observers said.

The US has equipped its Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps with F-35 stealth fighter jets in addition to previously commissioned F-22 stealth fighter jets and B-2 stealth bombers. It is also selling a large amount of F-35s to its allies in the Asia-Pacific region.

This makes anti-stealth capability essential to countering potential threats from US stealth warplanes, analysts said.



Any indication the HQ-19 ABM Missiles will be integrated into this ship? If not a follow up version could add 16 cells for them, and be at parity with the largest Aegis ships (now that the US is planning to retire the Ticonderoga class cruisers); South Korea’s Sejong the Great destroyers.
 
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Any indication the HQ-19 ABM Missiles will be integrated into this ship? If not a follow up version could add 16 cells for them, and be at parity with the largest Aegis ships (now that the US is planning to retire the Ticonderoga class cruisers); South Korea’s Sejong the Great destroyers.

Counter ballistic missile and satellites even GPS orbit level are part of the job for Type 055. Launch cell always planned to be deep and wide enough to carry current or future generations of Chinese BMD and anti-satellite missiles. I will be surprised if they do not carry these. Even carrying DF-21 modified for anti-ship is suggested. They have two different launch cell depth and the deeper ones can also be used to carry four anti air missiles depending on what kind of purpose the mission is.
 
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