Type 052D DDG revealed

[skyknight]

Wrong. The P-15B doesn't even have long range air defense missiles that can compare with the HHQ-9 on the 052C and we have yet to see a 400 km anti ship missile on any of those.

India only builds a hull，and all the propulsion and electronic and weapon system are imported from the other countries，
If they can get the most advanced systems from USA，I admit it maybe better than 052D，
However they cannot make it。

 

[Akasa]

I said Ship to Ship Basis i.e. P15B Pitted against a Flotilla with the Type 052D DDG as the Flagship.

Ship to ship basis the P15B lacks firepower even against the older generation of destroyers.

 

[Beast]

I said Ship to Ship Basis i.e. P15B Pitted against a Flotilla with the Type 052D DDG as the Flagship.

Somebody is getting emotional here. Hard truth is hard to swallow for some.

Let me educate you on Type 052C alone.

Type 052C destroyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[KRAIT]

Any info on expected cost, US new DDGs will cost around $2 billion and as far as I think, China will go by overwhelming fleet of these new DDGs with less cost.

 

[HongWu]

With 64 hot launch cells, it is enough for our purpose. We don't need 90 like the Arleigh Burke. We need to crank up the production and dominate the South China Sea and East China Sea now. This will be the ideal escort for the Varyag and the domestic conventional propulsion carriers.

Now all we need to see is the Type 095 SSN and all the pieces fall into place!

 

[KRAIT]

I know it is not ok to be rude with you, but some of your countrymen should stop burning out of their jealousy.

I can't control other posters buddy, if I cross a line, do let me know.....I am here to know more about defense and healthy debates. Few posters on both side derail the thread, and I think even you hate it.

BTW appreciate your response.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Any info on expected cost, US new DDGs will cost around $2 billion and as far as I think, China will go by overwhelming fleet of these new DDGs with less cost.

Each Type 052D should cost about 1 billion USD, you cannot make the stuff that costs only 1/10 in the domain of the high technology.

With 64 hot launch cells, it is enough for our purpose. We don't need 90 like the Arleigh Burke. We need to crank up the production and dominate the South China Sea and East China Sea now. This will be the ideal escort for the Varyag and the domestic conventional propulsion carriers.

Now all we need to see is the Type 095 SSN and all the pieces fall into place!

The late Type 055 DDG gonna have a lot of hot launch cells just like the latest Arleigh Burke DDG, since these beasts are going to play role as the escort guardians of our future CVN.

 

[Bombay Dude]

Ship to ship basis the P15B lacks firepower even against the older generation of destroyers.

A Hypersonic Cruise Missile Brahmos or even a Klub with Terminal Phase Supersonic Warhead is enough to take on any Chinese ship.

A Salvo of Couple launched would be like Fire and Forget Missile.

Why are you trying to hijack General Patton's words?

 

[KRAIT]

Each Type 052D should cost about 1 billion USD, you cannot make the stuff that costs only 1/10 in the domain of the high technology.

$ 1 billion seems logical. You are right, when we are talking about state of the art weaponry, its hard to cut back the cost.

 

[Beast]

A Hypersonic Cruise Missile Brahmos or even a Klub with Terminal Phase Supersonic Warhead is enough to take on any Chinese ship.

A Salvo of Couple launched would be like Fire and Forget Missile.

Why are you trying to hijack General Patton's words?

Your Brahmos can't even hit us in the first place if both ship are 400km apart. What is there to talk about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-602

 

[skyknight]

You are one hell of troll. Seriously, can't you control yourself from verbal diarrhea.........

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Appreciate it buddy. Can you post more about these destroyers...

It is said to be launched in the next week，more photos and details are coming on the way。

The main change will be：
64 unit VLS (For HHQ-9B and YJ-62 missile，maybe anti-submarine missile too)，new APAR（liquid cooling ，flat and bigger），
new130mm main gun， the helicopter hangar will be change to the middle（052C is in the left side）

 

[SEAL]

Any info on expected cost, US new DDGs will cost around $2 billion and as far as I think, China will go by overwhelming fleet of these new DDGs with less cost.

052C
800-900million$.

 

[ao333]

I said Ship to Ship Basis i.e. P15B Pitted against a Flotilla with the Type 052D DDG as the Flagship.

It's shameful for Chinese to have imported turbines for its previous destroyer classes, but an object of pride, when the most advanced Indian destroyer uses Russian turbines, Israeli radars, Israeli electronics, and missiles propelled by Russian rockets?

If there were to be an international embargo on India like in the 1990s, the Indians will complain again about how their military is "not ready" just like in 1962. After all, who can be ready with ships that stall on seas, blind against air raids and fire missiles that explode in the silo?

India: We take pride in importing all major ship systems for our flagships because we, Indians enjoy losing wars to foreign colonialists and love to be shamed by our Eastern neighbor whose capital is on the opposite side of the continent.

Military history of modern India: Complaining about unfair war practices since 19th century. We can't fight British riflemen with elephants! We can't fight mechanized Chinese infantries with 19th century Indian riflemen!

 

[skyknight]

With 64 hot launch cells, it is enough for our purpose. We don't need 90 like the Arleigh Burke. We need to crank up the production and dominate the South China Sea and East China Sea now. This will be the ideal escort for the Varyag and the domestic conventional propulsion carriers.

Now all we need to see is the Type 095 SSN and all the pieces fall into place!

in consideration of the displacement（restricted by the propulsion system）of 052D，
64 cells VLS is pretty good。
The most important thing is due to our powerful AESA radar and active homing HHQ-9 ，
Its air-defence ability will be in the best 3。

 

[Oldman1]

With 64 hot launch cells, it is enough for our purpose. We don't need 90 like the Arleigh Burke. We need to crank up the production and dominate the South China Sea and East China Sea now. This will be the ideal escort for the Varyag and the domestic conventional propulsion carriers.

Now all we need to see is the Type 095 SSN and all the pieces fall into place!

You can never have enough. But as people say its limited to space on a warship. Cramming so much into ship to do everything from anti-satellite to missile defense to land attack to anti-ship to anti-submarine warfare, etc. Hence such rising costs. And I haven't got into installing rail gun and laser defense in the near future.