Two teenage girls were killed in the name of 'honour in Pakistan

[SHAH BAAZ]

Lol we don't have time for you to keep doing trial and errors to determine the perfect Islamic model. You can't run a whole country of 220 million like this. Haven't you learned this from the '71 debacle and the TTP insurgencies? You need to address the root cause of the divide instead of covering it up with a band aid of Islami riasat.

Trials and errors with Islam?

Where does humanity get the law, All Men are created equal?

Where does man find that there is no compulsion in Religion?

I thought the Quran was the same everywhere?

So disgusting so called Muslims have so much weak iman on pdf. Go watch more bollywood movies.

 

[Cliftonite]

"I still have a lot to say to you, but you cannot bear it now."

"When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come."

"Everything the Father says is also what I say. That is why I said, 'He will take what I say and tell it to you.'

I guess todays Muslims can compared to Christians during Jesus days, they cant bear the things that are in Islam.

Oh god get out of these superficial quotes. Poverty is not going to be eradicated by these quotes. It needs technological and sociopolitical reforms

Hi,

Why do boys take revenge when they are dumped by their girlfriends?

Revenge Forn and whatnot?

Care to explain the context behind this?

 

[313ghazi]

I hope the killer spend a lifetime in jail.

 

[El Sidd]

Care to explain the context behind this?

insecure men exist in all shapes and forms and across the strata of society.

when these accidents happen, one side comes out blaming religion while the other comes out blaming culture of other community.

nothing gets done this way.

 

[SHAH BAAZ]

Oh god get out of these superficial quotes. Poverty is not going to be eradicated by these quotes. It needs technological and sociopolitical reforms



Care to explain the context behind this?

Islam provided Hospital and Universities, and now the same Islam is backwards. Get lost buddy, Islam is living according to ALLAH'S Will.

And most of it is just more than killing according to you
Dont be brainwashed that Islam is backwards and needs to be reformed becUse the West has you believing that.

 

[Cliftonite]

Trials and errors with Islam?

Where does humanity get the law, All Men are created equal?

Where does man find that there is no compulsion in Religion?

I thought the Quran was the same everywhere?

So disgusting so called Muslims have so much weak iman on pdf. Go watch more bollywood movies.

Yeah nice story, but how will this help the reeling poverty in our rural provinces? Will this help our water crises, our dwindling farmland and overpopulation problem? Get out of this fantasy that just being true Muslims will magically solve every problem that plagues Pakistan.

Islam provided Hospital and Universities, and now the same Islam is backwards. Get lost buddy, Islam is living according to ALLAH'S Will.

And most of it is just more than killing according to you
Dont be brainwashed that Islam is backwards and needs to be reformed becUse the West has you believing that.

Keep living like an ostrich with your head buried under the sand. Keep hoping for the true Islam that will magically solve every problem in the country and planet Earth.

 

[SHAH BAAZ]

Yeah nice story, but how will this help the reeling poverty in our rural provinces? Will this help our water crises, our dwindling farmland and overpopulation problem? Get out of this fantasy that just being true Muslims will magically solve every problem that plagues Pakistan.

Go read about the golden era of Islam and how it took not just the arabs but the whole of mankind out of poverty. The christians were in a dark age until Islam gave them new inventions, ideas, tools from Islam.

While the West took that and ran with it and became the 1st world, Muslims started getting away from the Knowledge seeking to fighting and killing.

We need get bavk to learning Islamic values not just Jihad, speak truth, dutiful to your parents, knowlege seeking, Being good human beings.

Yeah nice story, but how will this help the reeling poverty in our rural provinces? Will this help our water crises, our dwindling farmland and overpopulation problem? Get out of this fantasy that just being true Muslims will magically solve every problem that plagues Pakistan.




Keep living like an ostrich with your head buried under the sand. Keep hoping for the true Islam that will magically solve every problem in the country and planet Earth.

First you need to understand one thing, Everything is in the hands of Allah. Yes Islam can solve and make Pakistan a better Country a more prosperous Country.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Keep living like an ostrich with your head buried under the sand. Keep hoping for the true Islam that will magically solve every problem in the country and planet Earth.

Islam will solve InshALLAH. Its was Islam and Shariah which made our ancestors leave their homes in 1947. Islam is for all mankind

 

[SHAH BAAZ]

Lal Masjid incident was good or bad?

Get lost sanghi

Everything bad that happens is because Man brings it upon himself.

Pakistan wont advance untill every citizen knows exactly what is written in the Quran. This Mullah/Molvi system needs to die, they can brainwash any being into believing them because that is their source for info on Islam and not Allahs Words.

 

[jamahir]

Get lost sanghi

@Naofumi is not a Sanghi. He is a young sensible Muslim. We agree on most things.

Go read about the golden era of Islam and how it took not just the arabs but the whole of mankind out of poverty. The christians were in a dark age until Islam gave them new inventions, ideas, tools from Islam.

While the West took that and ran with it and became the 1st world, Muslims started getting away from the Knowledge seeking to fighting and killing.

We need get bavk to learning Islamic values not just Jihad, speak truth, dutiful to your parents, knowlege seeking, Being good human beings.

The Golden Age of Islam sustained because of the intellectuals finding support from the rulers. And then came the Mongols.

The Medieval Christians who drove out the Muslims from Europe, instituted a reign of terror. They did acts of evil like burning alive cats because they thought cats were the intermediaries of the Devil. They were rewarded with plagues and general ignorance.

But some among these Christians looked through the works of Muslims and parallely by themselves to bring about the Renaissance. Christian Europe progressed.

And what became of the Muslims generally ? There were exceptional enlightened Muslim rulers like Tipu Sultan but some chief mullah of the Ottoman empire declared that the printing press is haram and that slowed down adoption propagation of scientific and technological advances through the Muslim world.

What of the Muslims now ? Despite more than four dozen Muslim-majority countries there is not a single Muslim space station ( like the ISS ), not a single computer microprocessor or operating system. Why ?

Because for most modern Muslims, being Muslim has become a blind practice of prayer, ritual and dress-code.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

He is a young sensible Muslim

Not enough sensible. Having liberal thoughts too

 

[jamahir]

Not enough sensible. Having liberal thoughts too

I am a Leftist. What would you say to that ?

 

[SHAH BAAZ]

@Naofumi is not a Sanghi. He is a young sensible Muslim. We agree on most things.



The Golden Age of Islam sustained because of the intellectuals finding support from the rulers. And then came the Mongols.

The Medieval Christians who drove out the Muslims from Europe, instituted a reign of terror. They did acts of evil like burning alive cats because they thought cats were the intermediaries of the Devil. They were rewarded with plagues and general ignorance.

But some among these Christians looked through the works of Muslims and parallely by themselves to bring about the Renaissance. Christian Europe progressed.

And what became of the Muslims generally ? There were exceptional enlightened Muslim rulers like Tipu Sultan but some chief mullah of the Ottoman empire declared that the printing press is haram and that slowed down adoption propagation of scientific and technological advances through the Muslim world.

What of the Muslims now ? Despite more than four dozen Muslim-majority countries there is not a single Muslim space station ( like the ISS ), not a single computer microprocessor or operating system. Why ?

Because for most modern Muslims, being Muslim has become a blind attitude of prayer, ritual and dress-code.

Exactly what Im saying... its because we focus so much on reading the Quran in arabic that we forget to teach the meaning of it. I grew up in Pakistan and when I finished my reading of the Quran, Mithai was distributed. Now that I think about it, I didnt learn anything from reading the Quran in Arabic, I wish I wouldve known what Islam is at my younger day because Allah knows, I was a lost soul.

 

[Naofumi]

Not enough sensible. Having liberal thoughts too

I would call myself pragmatic and modernist, not a full fledged liberal.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

I am a Leftist. What would you say to that ?

Bhai ap to roza hi nahi rakhte. Kal ko aap athiest ban gaye to heraani nahi hogi mujhe

I would call myself pragmatic and modernist, not a full fledged liberal.

Thats what h*** sanghis want. They want us to be away from our religion.