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Two S-400 batteries and 240 warheads to cost Turkey $2.5bn

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No US risk their life in Germany. They are here because they want to be here. We don't invite them to be here in Germany. We don't need them. US military use some huge area for their own. You think they pay any rentals? Rammstein for example.

Again. We don't want US present in Germany. We don't need US present in Germany. We don't invite them to stay here. I hope it's clear now.
More like you lost WWII reason U.S. and British troops are still in Germany. I don't think the German government or public has every called on the U.S to leave. If they were that keen to do that, then there will be protests of hundreds of thousands or even millions of Germans against U.S, British bases in Germany. The fact that there isn't anything of that scale means the Germans don't really mind to be honest. So how can you say "WE" don't want U.S presence in Germany". You should have said :"I don't want U.S presence in Germany". All of us on here are just giving OUR opinion on world issues, we can't claim to speak on behalf of our country or government like many members on here are fond of doing. Lol
 
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Russians aren't dummies, Turkey will be sold a 'monkey' version of S-400. If Turkey purchases S-400 it is purely for political reasons.
Turkish folks aren't dummies either. They will make the most out of S400 like F16s and so many other staffs!!! No body has a patent on inelligence!!

YOu get aid package since half a century... you army and defence of today is at this point thanks to US tax payers...
So stop your delusion about Israel great... without the US, you will still be a third world country...

And do not forget that US help and aid to Israel do not come under $$ only...but by first hand contracts bc of your AIPAC lobby... In the End Israel use MONEY $$$ like anyone to buy and gain influence... and not ONLY their "genius" mind, like you want to make us believe...

Have FUn

ps: before you jump on yout horses :) I Can Speak About Whatever I like To :) Mister C-dome
Bro, are you trying to reason with Beni Israil folks???? Good luck with that!!!! Even Hazret-I Musa and Isa and countless other Prophets (PBUT) miserably failed!!! A lot of them even lost their lives while trying doing that!!!! Only Iblis, who they consider as their father not Hazret-I Adem (PBUH), is successful in this regard!!!

Why is Turkey buying it from russia despite having anti air protection from nato does Turkey fear a conflict with nato in future ? Syria don't have anything that can strike inside Turkey
A Hadis-I Sherif - to gain knowledge go even to China!!! Some of the companions literally went to China and built mosques there!!!!

Do you guys think Erdogan government is now in dilemma, once side he can't quit NATO because the Islands dispute with Greece, the boss of the organization tried to overthrowed him by coup. And the other hand, he have to cozy up to Russia for S400 while he doesn't like Russia in deep of his heart. How to wiggle out of this kinds of situation?


Don't worry we have terminal interceptor HQ26 with 400KM range. Even Tommorrow Russia don't supply us those S400, we can be on our own. I tell you a thing, China never trust Russians. Same as Turkey procuring S400, only a makeshift.

Only 3 billions for 6 battalions, we won't add a penny more.

If you want have a good offer from Russians, you gonna have some good bargain chips. That's what Erdogan lacks.

We always have got a backup plan. If HQ26 development fails, S400 will come and save ***. Now since HQ26 is a great success, S400 is only a nice add-in.

Look for the best, and prepare for the worst.
Reis Erdo'an may have many follies - which mortal doesn't have? - but, indecision isn't one of them!!!! If it's decided that Turkey needs S400 he'll get it!!!!

Why Turkey is buying these SAMs? Who are Turk enemies having an aircraft or capable to fire missiles? o_O
Better to be prepared than sorry!!!!

As long as we don't know the specific conditions of this deal we cannot argue whether it's cheap or expensive.
For instance, are they going to produce it in Turkey? Are we getting ToT? etc.
Even a preview will work!!! Reminds me of a story about 2 friends taking an exam. One guy copied from the other. When the grades were published it came out that the copier guy got a higher grade than his friend!!!! How on the earth it's possible????? The friend was almost going to sue the copier!!!! The copiers El Jevap - I also knew something!!!!!!
 
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Turkish folks aren't dummies either. They will make the most out of S400 like F16s and so many other staffs!!! No body has a patent on inelligence!!

InShaAllah :)

When russia deals with israel, there will be no jews left on face of the earth.

Orthodox christianity will turn into true luciferianism and living Antichrist will elliminate all jewish moschiach dreams. Jews will be slaves of the Antichrist. Or they will perish.

All israeli nuclear weapons are under illuminati control. In fact jews are just spoiled brats to stir up shit in ME ane help to usher in the new world order.

Russia will control jerusalem on the end of days and control the new world order.

Why? Because Russians are innocent pure people who can make a new beginning for mankind.

Adam Weißhaupt spartacus planned the demise of jews the very moment he met his customer mayer amschel bauer (rothschild)

Hitler did not exterminate 6 million jews without the permission of the illuminati.

In fact hitler was an occultist and extreme racist towards the jews. Like Adam Weißhaupt.

No Turks are Uber Rayce, we will control the entire earth. Cengiz Han wills it!
 
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Who said it failed to engage, it failed to detect them over syria.
And even if u claim the Russian chose not to, Israel has long history of destroying Russian made sam'
Please allow me to disagree
1-Russian in no war with you at all
2-Israel isn't alone hence even if the Russians want to down your planes does that mean Russia face Israel alone or it will face the US with all the west and some of the none western countries.
3-Russian presence in Syria is to help Syrian army to stand and defeat the terrorism not to engage in a war against the west.
4-The Russians air defense systems in Syria purpose is to cover and protect them from any air attack from any side which defensive in general (the Turkish downing one of their planes was a clear example).
 
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http://www.bloomberght.com/sondakika


According to Bloomberg HT, Turkey is going to buy 4 S-400 System for $2,5billion

This is my air defense system position prediction. Small red circles are range for anti-ballistic missile (120km) as it claimed in wikipedia. But wiki says that S-400 is only effective against short-medium range ballistic missiles. Green big circles are range of 48N6 missiles(250km), we will possibly buy very limited number of 40N6 (400km) so most of anti-aircraft range would be 250km.
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Ankara-İstanbul-İzmir ones are pretty obvious. I assume that fourth one will be stationed next to Akkuyu nuclear power plant, since SSM shared one air defense video long time ago, in that video there was an air defense system next to Akkuyu, it also covers Cyprus.
 
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Türkiye’nin Rusya’dan uzun menzilli S-400 hava savunma sistemleri alımı hakkında Rusya'dan çelişkili açıklamalar yapılmaya başlandı. Rusya Sanayi ve Ticaret Bakanı Denis Manturov, Ankara ile Moskova arasında hâlihazırda S-400 füzeleri alımı için herhangi kredi görüşmesi yapılmadığını duyurdu. Halbuki geçtiğimiz günlerde birkaç Rus yetkilisi “Anlaşma hazır. İş paranın bulunmasına kaldı” demişti.
http://mobil.hurriyet.com.tr/rusyadan-celiskili-s-400-aciklamasi-40505666

Until now no official confirmation available.

http://m.aksam.com.tr/guncel/turkiyenin-rusyadan-alacagi-s400lerle-ilgili-flas-gelisme/haber-642483

Whuat? How come a Korean source has information about this deal?
Strange.
 
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so s400 is really just for now to cover the 3 biggest cities and especially the nuclear power plant.

we need one in antep too
 
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Yeah, we need one high altitute air defense system in Antep asap, otherwise how can we deal with PKK airforce and ISIS airforce o_O
 
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http://www.bloomberght.com/sondakika


According to Bloomberg HT, Turkey is going to buy 4 S-400 System for $2,5billion

This is my air defense system position prediction. Small red circles are range for anti-ballistic missile (120km) as it claimed in wikipedia. But wiki says that S-400 is only effective against short-medium range ballistic missiles. Green big circles are range of 48N6 missiles(250km), we will possibly buy very limited number of 40N6 (400km) so most of anti-aircraft range would be 250km.
DrWezpU.jpg


Ankara-İstanbul-İzmir ones are pretty obvious. I assume that fourth one will be stationed next to Akkuyu nuclear power plant, since SSM shared one air defense video long time ago, in that video there was an air defense system next to Akkuyu, it also covers Cyprus.


Istanbul is the hart and Ankara the brain, wtf is izmir? Better Antep so they deliver Antep Fistigi... screw izmir...
 
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