Two Nation Theory

[tarrar]

The purpose of creating this thread is to show why Pakistan was needed & why Two Nation Theory was made.

All the Muslims specially youth unanimously chose Quaid as their one true leader and each one became soldier of Tehreek e Pakistan. Millions sacrificed their lives, honor, property for this sacred land now you call home.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=653622614692553

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=653616881359793

Youth like you, students of colleges and universities, there ishq and junoon, dedication and struggle in the leadership of Quaid E Azam made it possible.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=653619258026222

 

[tarrar]

All of us are indebted to our ancestors who made this dream of Allama Iqbal possible.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=323466161045207

Today's corrupt & sold out politicians, journalists & NGO's have rejected Two Nation Theory & are calling creation of Pakistan a mistake, Hamid Mir, Nawaz Sharif, Asma Jhangir, Najam Sethi, Altaf Hussain & so one are working against Pakistan & are spreading massive propaganda in various fields against Pakistan.


Faces are coming forward, who support GEO & is serving their cause to spread lies & propaganda.

Nawaz Sharif (& Zardari) who is no doubt a National Security threat, is not in any way able to understand the threats from both side of the borders & is ignoring all the facts, he continues to bow down in front of the enemies & is continuing to reject National interests.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=653246588090963

@Zarvan @batmannow

 

[Cherokee]

All the Muslims specially youth unanimously chose Quaid as their one true leader and each one became soldier of Tehreek e Pakistan. Millions sacrificed their lives, honor, property for this sacred land now you call home.

Lies .Not every Muslim chose Pakistan . Muslims who chose to migrate chose " Quaid as their one true leader and each one became soldier of Tehreek e Pakistan" .

 

[Jaanbaz]

Many Muslims didn't immigrate simply because India is a large nation, sometimes there was a long distance between them and Pakistan. Specially the violence during the partition put people off from migrating from both sides. Pakistan continued to receive Muslim immigrants from India as late as 1950 and 60s.

 

[T90TankGuy]

This begs the question, are Muslims safer in Pakistan or India?

 

[PakhtunGuy]

Pakistan doesn't need a Two nation theory.
A concept and a religion doesn't make a country to a country. But the ethnics, races, history, predecessor states make a country to a country.
Pakistan is land of Pashtun, Kashmiris, Punjabis, Sindis and Balochis. Why does Pakistan need a Two nation theory?
Germany is land of Germans or France is land of the French. They don't need a Two nation theory.
Pakistan also doesn't need Two Nation Theory.
Yes British occupied Pakistan from 1843 to 1947 with the defeat of Sikh Empire, Sind and Kalat and annexed our beloved country into "British India".
Muhammad Ali Jinnah took our country out of the British Occupation, he united us Pakistanis under Islam and he made elections for creation of modern day Pakistan, and immediatly Pashtun, Punjabis, Baloch, Sindis and Kashmiris agreed and formed Pakistan, a country which was always a country.
So Muhammad Ali Jinnah tried to took out our country as peacefully as it was possible with elections. British took our country with war and terror and with the defeat of Sikh Empire, Sind and Kalat and annexed it into "British India" forcefully.
So the other way would be like the British took Pakistan (back in time Sikh empire, Sind, Kalat) and annexed it forcefully and with war into "British India" somebody if there was no Jinnah could take Pakistan out with war, the same way the British did.
But Muhammad Ali Jinnah did his job took our country out and cleaned the mess the British created.
But that doesn't mean Pakistan is restricted to the words of Quide Azam or to a concept like the Two Nation Theory.
Because a country is a country. The ethnics groups, languages, civilisation, history, predecessor states make a country to a country and not a concept.

 

[shuntmaster]

Didn't the Two nation Theory get dumped into the dustbin of history in 1971?
If religion is the basic foundation for a nation state, why are there 50+ independent Islamic states stretching from Morocco to Malaysia, most having contiguous borders with each other?

 

[WAR-rior]

Didn't the Two nation Theory get dumped into the dustbin of history in 1971?
If religion is the basic foundation for a nation state, why are there 50+ independent Islamic states stretching from Morocco to Malaysia, most having contiguous borders with each other?

Now such logical question dont stand for our Pakistani friends who can go to lengths to prove their hypothesis.

 

[shuntmaster]

Muhammad Ali Jinnah took our country out of the British Occupation,

Absolutely false. Jinnah never fought against the British rule. In fact, he was believed to be an agent of the British and even got funding from them to weaken the Anti-British Raj Quit India movement of the Congress..

 

[PakhtunGuy]

Absolutely false. Jinnah never fought against the British rule. In fact, he was believed to be an agent of the British and even got funding from them to weaken the Anti-British Raj Quit India movement of the Congress..

I don't care about conspiracy theories.
Even if a farmer with no teeth who can't even read brought Pakistan out of British Occupation, I would see him as a hero.
Pakistan and its ethnics and its predecessor states existed long before British and whole Europe when they learned that fire is warm.

 

[shuntmaster]

I don't care about conspiracy theories.
Even if a farmer with no teeth who can't even read brought Pakistan out of British Occupation, I would see him as a hero.
Pakistan and its ethnics and its predecessor states existed long before British and whole Europe when they learned that fire is warm.

Its not a conspiracy theory, but a fact of history that Muslim League never fought against the British Raj and had no role in getting the Indian subcontinents independence from colonial rule.

 

[PakhtunGuy]

Its not a conspiracy theory, but a fact of history that Muslim League never fought against the British Raj and had no role in getting the Indian subcontinents independence from colonial rule.

Even if it was true. Pakistanis (Pashtun, Baloch, Sindis, Kashmiris and Punjabis) fought the British before the annexion into "British India" and also during the british occuption. If not the muslim league than the Pakistanis did.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Pakistan doesn't need a Two nation theory.
A concept and a religion doesn't make a country to a country. But the ethnics, races, history, predecessor states make a country to a country.
Pakistan is land of Pashtun, Kashmiris, Punjabis, Sindis and Balochis. Why does Pakistan need a Two nation theory?
Germany is land of Germans or France is land of the French. They don't need a Two nation theory.
Pakistan also doesn't need Two Nation Theory.
Yes British occupied Pakistan from 1843 to 1947 with the defeat of Sikh Empire, Sind and Kalat and annexed our beloved country into "British India".
Muhammad Ali Jinnah took our country out of the British Occupation, he united us Pakistanis under Islam and he made elections for creation of modern day Pakistan, and immediatly Pashtun, Punjabis, Baloch, Sindis and Kashmiris agreed and formed Pakistan, a country which was always a country.
So Muhammad Ali Jinnah tried to took out our country as peacefully as it was possible with elections. British took our country with war and terror and with the defeat of Sikh Empire, Sind and Kalat and annexed it into "British India" forcefully.
So the other way would be like the British took Pakistan (back in time Sikh empire, Sind, Kalat) and annexed it forcefully and with war into "British India" somebody if there was no Jinnah could take Pakistan out with war, the same way the British did.
But Muhammad Ali Jinnah did his job took our country out and cleaned the mess the British created.
But that doesn't mean Pakistan is restricted to the words of Quide Azam or to a concept like the Two Nation Theory.
Because a country is a country. The ethnics groups, languages, civilisation, history, predecessor states make a country to a country and not a concept.

If your claims are indeed true, can you explain the current strife within the social, military and political schisms of Pakistan? I mean, if Pakistan was a common identity amongst these states which you named, then why wasn't that common identity accepted and incorporated without internal strife after the merger of those states to form Pakistan? The strife started as a whimper after merger of the states but has now imploded into a huge mess right ? Can one claim a common identity as a nation if people from these various states are questioning the authority of this nation for whatever reason it is that they may have ?

 

[third eye]

The purpose of creating this thread is to show why Pakistan was needed & why Two Nation Theory was made.

All the Muslims specially youth unanimously chose Quaid as their one true leader and each one became soldier of Tehreek e Pakistan. Millions sacrificed their lives, honor, property for this sacred land now you call home.

How do you say ' all" ?

Few Muslims chose Pakistan, there was a large % who didnt & chose to remain in the land of their ancestors.

 

[PakhtunGuy]

If your claims are indeed true, can you explain the current strife within the social, military and political schisms of Pakistan? I mean, if Pakistan was a common identity amongst these states which you named, then why wasn't that common identity accepted and incorporated without internal strife after the merger of those states to form Pakistan? The strife started as a whimper after merger of the states but has now imploded into a huge mess right ? Can one claim a common identity as a nation if people from these various states are questioning the authority of this nation for whatever reason it is that they may have ?

Thats quite normal for a multi ethnic state like Pakistan.
If you look the history of Pakistan from Indus Valley civilisation (Sind) up to Pakistan, Pashtun, Baloch, Kashmiris, Sindis and Punjabis lived all together in one state or empire.

Many Muslims didn't immigrate simply because India is a large nation, sometimes there was a long distance between them and Pakistan. Specially the violence during the partition put people off from migrating from both sides. Pakistan continued to receive Muslim immigrants from India as late as 1950 and 60s.

Many Muslims from India didn't migrate to Pakistan because India is their home and not Pakistan (especially because of ethnics, languages, cultures etc.)