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Two nation theory: In Urdu explained eloquently

@Zarvan
Basically once a person enters Islam, he is our brother and part of this big family regardless of colour and ethnicity difference.

Therefore Iqbal supported Pakistan idea but he himself wrote that biggest false GOD of modern times in Nationalism.
Allama Iqbal was initially a nationalist Muslim and he wrote a lot of poem eulogising India but when during his stay in Europe his knowledge about Islam and thoughts evolved and that changed his outlook for Islam. And I can feel that living outside here in USA most often I pray behind an Arab or an African Imam and we meet like brothers despite difference of ethnicity and skin colours. Pakistan was created to be lab for Muslims of the subcontinent to experiment with different Islamic systems in modern age and implement the best one and act a beacon for rest of the world.

What is in book doesn't matter much in real life; what is being practiced matters.
Books are the reference since people do not follow 100% of what book tells them so people cannot be a reference.
If a doctor is doing malpracitice will you say that the whole medical institution and education is wrong?
rather you should consult and follow the periodicals and journals.
 
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Respect to two-nation theory it rid subcontinent Muslims from Hindu domination and gave dignity in life. It transcends borders and its farz to defend ummat. Kashmiri brother sisters getting aazadi from India soon Inshallah. Also Palestinians will reclaim the land which is rightfully theirs day is coming soon Inshallah
 
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What is in book doesn't matter much in real life; what is being practiced matters

All liberal Muslims, all non Muslims, all sunnis and all shia, the western world and the whole globe can deny the bond between Muslims but every year there happens an event that negates all their logic and reasoning. Nobody can deny the living proof of Ummah and the bond that exists.
 
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The two nation is the further classification of Civilization theory.

Those indigenous to this region and indus valley civilization and those alien to this region aka Ganges civilization.

They could not survive together 5000 years back and they still cant.It is infact the nature order of this region

@Kaptaan
 
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Books are the reference since people do not follow 100% of what book tells them so people cannot be a reference.
If a doctor is doing malpracitice will you say that the whole medical institution and education is wrong?
rather you should consult and follow the periodicals and journals.

If the doctors' community is largely involved into malpractices, then it barely matters what the book they are holding reads; patients get exploited or die anyway.
 
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If the doctors' community is largely involved into malpractices, then it barely matters what the book they are holding reads; patients get exploited or die anyway.
Yeah but talking about Muslims less than 1% are involved and believe me if it was around 10% or more you won't be alive and commenting against Islam so openly and even then the peaceful 90% means the book is valid.
 
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Afsos ke do qaumi nazriah ek shayar ke tasavvur, ek vakil ki zirah aur maghrabi nau abadiyat quwwaton ke jarahiya ka bas ek nakam namoona ban ke rah gaya. Bara y meherbani, is nazriye ko Ummat-ul-Islam se jod kar umma ki tauhin na karen. Ummat tamam mumalik ke hadud se kahin badh kar hai.
 
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All I can say is that your knowledge about Islam is based on internet and main stream media while if you really want to know about Islam you should read Holy Quran with translation and some authentic books on the life of the Holy Prophet (ﷺ)
Muslims and Non-Muslims alike who would want to learn about Islam to first read Muhammad's Sirat (Biography) first and then read Koran. This can help to form an idea on Islam.
 
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Muslims and Non-Muslims alike who would want to learn about Islam to first read Muhammad's Sirat (Biography) first and then read Koran. This can help to form an idea on Islam.
Any case is ok but I think reading Quran is better since that's the word of God

Afsos ke do qaumi nazriah ek shayar ke tasavvur, ek vakil ki zirah aur maghrabi nau abadiyat quwwaton ke jarahiya ka bas ek nakam namoona ban ke rah gaya. Bara y meherbani, is nazriye ko Ummat-ul-Islam se jod kar umma ki tauhin na karen. Ummat tamam mumalik ke hadud se kahin badh kar hai.
Mistake two-nation theory is not from Iqbal , it is from our religion the Holy Quran.
 
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That 'ummah theory' is quite like pure-communist theory with one difference, ummah is political and communism in its pure form talks more about demolishing economic classes. Both are unrealistic and reduced to serving interest of a few by exploiting the common folks in various ways. Do remember that Arab Muslims see subcontinent Muslims as inferior, in the subcontinent Pakistani Muslims thought Bangladeshi Muslims are inferior, and so on....

And you support Pakistan because you are a Pakistani, I am tired of your dishonesty to mislead unsuspecting readers.

Yet as I said there was an Islamic state under the Rashiduns, Abbasids and Ummayads that merged all muslims in one nation. So giving up for muslims is not the solution. Allama Iqbal supported the foundation of Islam by supporting the Ottomans as did all Indian muslims at that time. Muslims were together in their demand to save the Ottoman empire and therefore the ummah and caliphate.

The caliphate is the true governance method for muslims and though it has been broken for years it is the ideal governance setup defined by the hadith, quran and our glamorous history. For 1000 years there has been a caliph though in the later years the caliph had nominal power and no power over all Islamic lands, just a section, yet the khutbah took place in their names. It is only the past 100 years or less since there has been no caliphate.

Also it is true however that there has been a feeling of superiority amongst some muslims against others. But it does not have to do with Islam but the mindset of ethnic groups. Islam destroyed tribalism in Arabia. It could destroy ethnic and nationalism among Pakistanis or other nations too.

I am Pakistani, true. But even so I have ethnic and religious relations with parts that have been passed under Indian control which I may argue has been done without or against the wishes of many Lucknowis, Hyderabadis and Kashmiris.
 
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