Unfortunately brother,this forum doesn't allow religious discussions...otherwise I could have proved to you those terrorists have as many justifications from religious texts to do what they are doing as you have to prove what you are saying.
I could post hundreds of pakistani Ulema videos that glorify the killing of blasphemers..you can't say those ulema too don't know quran and hadees.
You just visit any urdu news video of this beheadings and see for yourself how many people will be cheering the killers. You will struggle to find a comment that condemns this act.
I am pretty sure indonesia is no different.
Blasphemy is some thing else, Ulama who said the killing of blasphemers is justified using one hadith and for another Muslim rejecting it, they use Quran verses that told Muslim to be patience. Do you think which one is stronger ? Quran or Hadith ?? Case closed.
Here about Terrorist recruitment in Indonesia, coming from the story of ex-Jamaah Islamiyah leader
ADMISSION OF FORMER TERRORIST NASIR ABBAS
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ADMISSION OF FORMER TERRORIST NASIR ABBAS
The former terrorist, Nasir Abbas, admitted to being a terrorist since he was a teenager, namely the age of 18.
"Indeed, adolescence is the most easily influenced and easily recruited," said Nasir Abbas when giving testimony about his experience as a terrorist in front of thousands of students from the Amanatul Ummah Islamic Boarding School, Pacet Mojokerto, East Java, Thursday (1/8/2019).
According to him, young people who are late studying religion are very vulnerable to being infected by radicalism. Because their religious knowledge is still very shallow. He gave an example of his own experience.
"In 1987 I was sent to conflict areas in Afghanistan when I was 18 years old," said Nasir Abbas, saying that in Afghanistan he was taught how to use weapons and assemble bombs.
Since then he has been a terrorist assigned to several countries with a name and identity that always changes.
Who sent? "Ustadz Abu Bakar Baa'syir," said Nasir Abbas. Now Abu Bakar Ba'asyir is in prison for being involved in terrorism cases in various regions and countries.
"I met the kiai, but the one who was not right," he said regretfully.
He admitted that he met Abu Bakar Baasyir in Malaysia at the age of 16. Since then he has been like a buffalo by the nose.
"I really don't know but I just followed. Therefore, students must be smart in understanding religion. Don't be like me. At that time, I was just following along, "said Nasir Abbas to the Amanatul Ummah students.
Nasir Abbas then gave an example of the ways and strategies of terrorists in recruiting new recruits, especially teenagers who were just learning Islam.
"Try to answer the students. Which is better which is Al-Quran and Pancasila, ”asked Nasir Abbas to the Amanatul Ummah students who packed the Great Mosque of KH. Abdul Chalim. The students immediately replied, "Al-Quran ...".
Nasir Abbas then asked another question, "Which is better which Prophet Muhammad and Pak Jokowi." The students immediately replied, "Prophet Muhammad ..."
"Which is better between an Islamic state and an infidel country," asked Nasir Abbas again. The students replied, "Islamic State."
"So, with those answers, the students were immediately influenced and entered into a terrorist network," said Nasir Abbas.
Why?
“Because questions like that shouldn't need to be answered because they're not on the same level. Those are the wrong questions. Cook the Qur'an compared to Pancasila. How can the Prophet Muhammad be compared to Pak Jokowi, "said Nasir Abbas.
But that is the strategy of the terrorists to trick and trap their prey, especially to catch new terrorist members. With these answers, said Nasir Abbas, the terrorists then developed a doctrine.
"If the Al-Quran is better, let's replace Pancasila with the Koran. If an Islamic state is better than an infidel state, let's replace the Pancasila state which is kafir with an Islamic state.
If it's better for the Prophet Muhammad, let's replace Jokowi. The goal is that we hate Pak Jokowi, "said Nasir Abbas. That's when the brains of young children begin to wash unconsciously. Horrified.
“Comparing something must be on a level. For example the Koran with the Torah. The Koran and Pancasila are not on the same level, ”said Nasir Abbas.
"The Prophet Muhammad and Pak Jokowi were not on the same level. Prophet Muhammad was chosen directly by Allah, while Pak Jokowi was chosen by humans, "he added.
According to Nasir Abbas, there are many other trick questions being developed by terrorists.
"Therefore, if the students get a question like that, don't answer it," he asked.
Nasir Abbas said, now terrorists in recruiting new members are not always face to face or face to face.
They take advantage of advances in information technology. "It can be read through and can be via video," said Nasir Abbas.
Because of that he asked to be aware of radical and intolerant groups. This is because terrorism begins with an attitude of intolerance and does not want to respect differences.
According to him, Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia (HTI) is the same. HTI has the goal of turning the Republic of Indonesia into a caliphate.
"Even though HTI is now not involved in violence, they are trying to recruit members of the police, the TNI, which in time they will use to carry out acts of violence," he said.
For terrorists, said Nasir, establishing an Islamic state is a norm. Therefore, when they had difficulty establishing an Islamic state in Indonesia, their movement expanded to Singapore, Malaysia and other countries.
"They believe that killing can be rewarded. Damaging can be rewarded. They said Allah ordered us to become terrorists, "said Nasir Abbas.
Nasir Abbas said he was grateful to be arrested by the police after being a terrorist for so many years. He learned a lesson in the form of awareness that he had adhered to wrong beliefs in religion.
Therefore, he asked the santri to be smart in understanding religion so that they did not fall into radicalism and terrorism as experienced by him.
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