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Two Indian soldiers killed in LoC skirmish: Indian army

RIP to the soldiers..
Time to put Gurkha Regiment or Laddakh Scout or Garwhal Rifle to put into forward areas...
What I can see another script of Atlantic Shootout has been written...

No Sir, I promise you... Poonch Brigade (93 Infantry brigade) does not accept their fallen to be treated anyway like this. heck, no army will.

Like I said, if the news is true, we would not need any other regiment to address this and that too within 24 hours... I have grown around that Brigade and spend 18 valuable years in that area and I have not seen a SINGLE exception to that rule...
 
Of course it is most unacceptable if the be-headings were done & if the house was damaged due to Pakistani fire & if it was deliberately so but the amount of 'ifs' that took me to even type that out makes it all the more imperative for me to determine whether these 'ifs' really did happen or not ?

Of course it is always ifs even give the clean track record of your Army..
 
This certainly does not apply to all Pakistanis. I am sure the majority of the GoP does not want a total war. The problem here are some rogue and fundamentalist elements within their government and military.

And when has GoP has actually had any control over the military w.r.t Kashmir ?
 
goes to show how much the civilian govt and military are aloof from each other

And i also fear that these hijras in center will now order the army not to retaliate, or take revenge of this attack, so that matter wont get further escalated, and unlike them, IA will follow the orders no matter what!!
 
This Clash lasted for hardly 30 minutes , so there is no way PA soldiers had any time for Mutilation , And We dont do that .

plue Combat knifes are not used for Cleaving a Heads , so as Pakistan Army spokesman said this is not true , Indian media is trying to dig an Elephant from an hole,

It could just very well be an head Shot , that Media is just hyping .

It seem you are expect. If 30 minute is not enough then please tell me how much time need to do this ?
 
Of course it is always ifs even give the clean track record of your Army..

That narrative on our 'track record' is full of 'conjectures' too !

We maintain the same 'conjectures' about your Army too, sir !
 
Comments left by an Indian reader on this incident. :lol:


pehle to series jeete ab sir bhi kaat diye...cup to legaye aur saath me 2 sir bhe legaye.... aisa kyun ker rahe hain pak.. we indian say sorry ... u r great!!!
 
this is really provoking incident. ***** want war. then .......
 
So essentially we're going to pass judgements on mere 'conjectures'.

One might even argue that :

(a) the very argument that there could be 'rogue' soldiers in the Pakistan Army is unsubstantiated; we didn't have anything like the Samjohta Express.

(b) could it be that the Indian Army was simply trying to demonize Pakistan to cover up their earlier intrusion into Pakistani territory where they killed one of their soldiers ?

(c) why would the Pakistani soldiers not be smart enough to take the bodies back with them seeing that they did manage to slip in & slip out unnoticed.

(d) why would Pakistani soldiers not be smart enough, after 65 years of association with this enemy, to know that India's greatest strength lies not in the number of bullets they fire but with the amount of ease they can mold public perception. How is that even after being demonized by all & sundry in the past decade or so they didn't think this when even you & I, mere forummites, can ?

I would think a whole host of possibilities might be more plausible or equally plausible to the one suggested here.

Besides even terrorists aren't handed out their sentences on mere 'weightage' of your word against theirs & here we're talking about two countries & the many people that go with it.

You missed my point. The point was that you or I or anybody sitting in their homes will not get any concrete evidence for what goes on between the two armies in far flung outposts. We will have to rely on our judgement of the likelihood of each sides' story. And that is perfectly fine, since we are not a court of law deciding the fate of an accused, or handing out sentences, but merely people struggling to come to a conclusion. It is not about passing judgement on somebody - what I mentioned (about evaluating probabilities) was simply a rough guideline for accepting one version of events over another, in our personal capacities. And for incidents like this, that is all that we will have. It is unfortunate, but true that statements from either sides' armies is all that we will have to go by. Evaluating the likelihood of each sides' version is all that we can do.
 
That narrative on our 'track record' is full of 'conjectures' too !

We maintain the same 'conjectures' about your Army too, sir !

You would, because over the years it is the only thing which helps a Pakistani keep faith in their protectors..

After all Kargil was fought in Indian army's minds...
 
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