Two Indian Aircraft Shot Down is a Part of History Now - ISPR

[RIP Pak LAW]

In other words, you have no proof to your claims, and every one is suppose to accept ISPR claims on the face value, despite the fact they have been caught lying and modifying their statements, again and again.

No, ispr claims made more sense than yours. Even Mi 17 claim has now turned out to be true since from day first, it was indicated from our side that the helicopter was shot down by your own missile where as iaf remain silent regarding it for weeks. Clearly the situational awareness regarding the Feb events are much more clearer from our side. Your side lied from Feb 26 itself when your Govt openly claimed of killing some 300 plus militants lmao. Your spice bombs never hit any man made structure and this is backed by international media. Hence Indian side of the story is simply not acceptable at any level where as our narrative is proving to be true by every passing day.

 

[war&peace]

Exactly, which shows, how ISPR blatantly lied, on Feb 27th.

"Refuting India's claim of shooting down Pakistan's F-16 aircraft, the DG ISPR said that Pakistan had not used F-16 in entire operation and no Pakistani fighter jet has been hit.

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest...-their-fighter-jet-crashing/story/322823.html"


And once their lied was exposed,

they modified their statement, to no F-16 were used in bombing mission.

So if ISPR can lie about, F-16 not being used in "entire operation", can lie about having captured 3 Indian pilots(https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...d-paks-day-of-u-turn/articleshow/68191029.cms).

If prime minister Pakistan can go on Pakistani national TV and claims, that Pakistan shot down 2 Indian Migs and then later change the story to Su 30 MKI and MIG.

Why can't they lie about F-16 being shot down?

ISPR intially claimed they had captured 3 pilots, so why aren't they showing the other two pilots ? Is it because, they are their own pilots

Where is the wreckage of F16?

 

[BHarwana]

That probably was the deal for calling off escalation. US aircrafts for IAF and bailout package for pak. Both sides to stand down.

LOL high on some thing?
Obviously India is going to buy F-35. India has no other 5th gen option. China will not sell India and Russian one India cannot buy.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Where is the other wreck and the other pilot?
Didn’t Maj. Gen. Ghafoor also say Pakistan had captured the other pilots?
Where are they, drinking dood-pati?

he is dead. The other pilot is dead and indians just like its initial response to abhinandan had abondoned him. Ask for his body and we will hand it over to u.

 

[Osiris]

No, ispr claims made more sense than yours. Even Mi 17 claim has now turned out to be true since from day first, it was indicated from our side that the helicopter was shot down by your own missile where as iaf remain silent regarding it for weeks. Clearly the situational awareness regarding the Feb events are much more clearer from our side. Your side lied from Feb 26 itself where your Govt openly claim of killing some 300 plus militants lmao. Your spice bombs never hit any man made structure and this is backed by international media. Hence Indian side of the story is simply not acceptable at any level where as our narrative is proving to be true by every passing day.

No, it did not.

Where are the 3 Indian pilots that Pakistan supposedly captured.

On Feb 27 as per ISPR, F-16 was supposedly not used in entire operation and now the statement has been modified to "F -16 were used but not for bombing."

Indian government or IAF never claimed 300 dead, check again.

Where is the wreckage of F16?

Right next to the wreckage of Su 30 MKI.

 

[Dushyant]

LOL high on some thing?
Obviously India is going to buy F-35. India has no other 5th gen option. China will not sell India and Russian one India cannot buy.

India was not interested in f35 lately , largely because they were not okay with partnering with newbie defence company India wanted the as offset partner. only reason Desault was selected despite eurofigheter offering mega discounts.Desault was struggling to sell Raf in any meaning full numbers to justify its development cost. Prime candidate to compromise on other deal aspects.
As far as China and russia goes , every thing is for sale for right price. Learn from history!

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

LOL high on some thing?
Obviously India is going to buy F-35. India has no other 5th gen option. China will not sell India and Russian one India cannot buy.

If they buy F 35s, then it will be the clear threat for us

 

[Microsoft]

No, it did not.

Where are the 3 Indian pilots that Pakistan supposedly captured.

On Feb 27 as per ISPR, F-16 was supposedly not used in entire operation and now the statement has been modified to "F -16 were used but not for bombing."

Indian government or IAF never claimed 300 dead, check again.

Did Indian government claim F-16 shot down? or any PAF plane shot down for that matter?

 

[BHarwana]

If they buy F 35s, then it will be the clear threat for us

What else will they buy? And if they buy F-35 we already have a counter for that.

 

[Osiris]

he is dead. The other pilot is dead and indians just like its initial response to abhinandan had abondoned him. Ask for his body and we will hand it over to u.

Aren't they suppose to be 2 pilots in Su 30, are both of them dead ?

 

[BHarwana]

India is buying 36 Rafale from France. Few upgraded Mig-29 from Russia for now. In long run India will go for F-35.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Just like how the F-16 wreckage is on your side.
You show yours, we will show ours.

your claim was that abhinandan shot it down but abhinandan complete missile package was found intact with the wreckage.
Ur claim was that heat seeking missile was used, while F-16 had one of the world best flare throwing mechanism in place to counter it. We have proved u wrong by showing missiles intact.

Now its ur turn to prove us wrong.

 

[Osiris]

Did Indian government claim F-16 shot down? or any PAF plane shot down for that matter?

Yes they did, on Feb 27 itself.

 

[Meengla]

The locals in the videos where Abhinandan was captured were clearly talking about capturing the second pilot who had bailed from another aircraft besides him, and any one who speaks Potowhari/Kashmiri can confirm that...

Yes, the video where the mob captured Abhinandan shows that the locals were indeed talking about some second pilot and even seemed to be guiding Pakistani soldiers toward the location.

In wars there's too much 'fog of war' and so hard to figure out some things. Both sides lie. But what is certain is that Pakistanis did down an Indian MiG 21 and captured its pilot and that an Indian helicopter was shot down probably from friendly fire. Pakistan has no proof yet of a SU30 being down and the Indian claim of a Pakistani F16 down is just ludicrous.

It's still a big victory for Pakistan even if seems very minor/tactical: Pakistan has essentially washed away not only the debacle of 1971 but that of also the 1999 Kargil war, and perhaps also the shame of the OBL Raid. It's mostly psychological, yes, but due to the psychology of Indians and Pakistanis, these events have become strategic: India will be ten time more cautious after Feb 27 and also what warnings it received during the night of 27/28 Feb when missiles were supposed to be fired on Pakistan.

Needless to say: The perception war is so thoroughly won by Pakistan that not only the global media is buying Pakistan's narrative and even supporting Pakistan while also Pakistan successfully organized the huge PSL Cricket Final in Karachi and the 23rd March Pakistan Day celebrations in Islamabad.

 

[Microsoft]

LOL high on some thing?
Obviously India is going to buy F-35. India has no other 5th gen option. China will not sell India and Russian one India cannot buy.

US should rethink 100x before selling F-35 to India. First they are getting S-400 which they complained about to Turkey. Second, if and when PAF shoots one down F-35 balloon will burst just like SU-30.