Two Christians shot dead in Faisalabad, Section 144 imposed

[Spring Onion]

Minorities should be allowed to be armed.

Seriously, think about it, we have militant groups running around everywhere, threatening, raping, killing in the name of religion. The police have their hands full with so many cases already and so do the hospitals.

Hardly any gun control and minorities fear for their lives. Pakistan cant give security to everyone at the moment but permission to secure themselves should be available!

Terrorists are killing everyone irrespective of their religion. exaggerating in some cases is unjustified. So far these terrorists have killed thousands of Muslims. So would you also suggest keeping guns for everyone??

everyone cant afford a gun.

Simply its the responsibility of the state to give protection to its citizens, The state should provide protection to minorities and extra security and ensuring justice should be there for them.

 

[Spring Onion]

Nearly 70% Pakistanis Support Christians to Build Churches

Nearly 70% Pakistanis support Christians to build churches - World News - SINA English

I do not know if anyone has noticed but most of the Churches in Pakistan are built on prime land and in the vicinity of cantonments or to say in the most secure areas. Again in other words the goras were very wise to built these in the heart of highly sensitive (defence) areas

 

[Solomon2]

Congratulations, Pakistan! You have now provided any Pakistani Christian who seeks to emigrate carte blanche to demand entry into the U.S. or Canada on the grounds they are fleeing religious persecution.

 

[Spring Onion]

Congratulations, Pakistan! You have now provided any Pakistani Christian who seeks to emigrate carte blanche to demand entry into the U.S. or Canada on the grounds they are fleeing religious persecution.

as if America was not offering the same on the same grounds since many years.


and on another note your adopted country has even offered the same to eunuch and the man who were arrested on charges of marrying in Peshawar BUT guess what ??? the turning point is that they refused the offer

 

[afriend]

All depends on attitude of people.. when guns are plenty in a market then any tom dick and harry can put the entire country to ransom. So stop these bloody support for any kind of terrorism... then we all can sleep peacefully. Put emphasis on system, you have a functioning army, put them into ensuring a system is in place, where no people will be threatned or dominated with gun, if they do system has to bring them to thier logical conclusion. Don't leave them just because they are pro our country or anti another country, if they do wrong they are *** has to be kicked.

Then only we all can surive. And yes this applies very much to anybody who takes guns in the name of religion and also to any country, not just pakistan.

 

[Solomon2]

as if America was not offering the same on the same grounds since many years.

Yes, but now the Pakistanis applying need not provide proof of persecution, only proof that they are Christians. The fact that they cannot have their day in court without risking their lives if accused of a wrongdoing is evidence enough of religious persecution.

 

[Spring Onion]

All depends on attitude of people.. when guns are plenty in a market then any tom dick and harry can put the entire country to ransom. So stop these bloody support for any kind of terrorism... then we all can sleep peacefully. Put emphasis on system, you have a functioning army, put them into ensuring a system is in place, where no people will be threatned or dominated with gun, if they do system has to bring them to thier logical conclusion. Don't leave them just because they are pro our country or anti another country, if they do wrong they are *** has to be kicked.

Then only we all can surive. And yes this applies very much to anybody who takes guns in the name of religion and also to any country, not just pakistan.

totally political speech needs applying on the country of the origin of the poster.

Its not the responsibility of the functioning army

 

[afriend]

as if America was not offering the same on the same grounds since many years.


and on another note your adopted country has even offered the same to eunuch and the man who were arrested on charges of marrying in Peshawar BUT guess what ??? the turning point is that they refused the offer

Whatever is the case, america or europe is way better place to live than any other place in asia. We are oursleves responsible for this, where we think without using our head.

You can see that with the number of immigrants living there demanding the same amount of religoius freedom that they dont give for another religion in their own country and yet being accpeted in those countries.

 

[Spring Onion]

Yes, but now the Pakistanis applying need not provide proof of persecution, only proof that they are Christians. The fact that they cannot have their day in court without risking their lives if accused of a wrongdoing is evidence enough of religious persecution.

You need to study the history of killings on court premises then you will find that its not limited to any religious proceeding.

And many Muslims have been killed while in jails or on court premises who were accused of blasphemy.


The bottom line is that we need to take measures for stopping these incidents irrespective of Muslims or Non-Muslims.

 

[afriend]

totally political speech needs applying on the country of the origin of the poster.

Its not the responsibility of the functioning army

Whatever, i was replying to sparkling way i guess, where he explained why people are not coming out in support, or the system is not coming out against these henious crimes. That is the fear of getting killed.

It is true to the maoist effected areas of india, and the terrorist infected states of pakistan. And functioning army was highlighted because, that is the only thing that seems to be stable in your country. With all the inconsistent speechs by your polticians.

 

[Spring Onion]

Whatever is the case, america or europe is way better place to live than any other place in asia. We are oursleves responsible for this, where we think without using our head.

You can see that with the number of immigrants living there demanding the same amount of religoius freedom that they dont give for another religion in their own country and yet being accpeted in those countries.

who is denying that fact ??? i know many journalists who have made up stories about threats to their lives by militants and extremists and these journos are now in USA.

No denying that there are good living standards in that country and many want to migrate to it.


BUT i say when they are so much eager to migrate to foreign lands and grab opportunities then they should think thrice over the changes viz a viz culture, behaviour, rules and so on. And they should not then have any objection in obeying the rules of that country. Which unfortunately is not the case.

 

[KS]

pardoin me....but why do christians in Pakistan have islamic names like Sajjad and Rashid..?

Any specific reason..?

 

[T-Faz]

^^^^^^

Culturally these names are not religious per say, many Christians have such names in Pakistan. They also might have ancestors who were converts to Christianity.

In my area, it's split between such names and other Biblically inspired names.

Christians like other minorities of Pakistan are good people and very patriotic Pakistani's. I know many and I have immense respect for them.

I hate the extremist though, they are the ill of our society.

 

[Frankenstein]

Yes, but now the Pakistanis applying need not provide proof of persecution, only proof that they are Christians. The fact that they cannot have their day in court without risking their lives if accused of a wrongdoing is evidence enough of religious persecution.

At least we have guts to share such news about our country, have you ever share how many Muslims did you cancerous Country have kill?? Never I guess, all you share is sympathy towards Israelis

 

[afriend]

At least we have guts to share such news about our country, have you ever share how many Muslims did you cancerous Country have kill?? Never I guess, all you share is sympathy towards Israelis

its all out in the open dear.. remember.. that the reason why we hate america right