What's new

Two Chinese Army choppers in Indian airspace, IAF probing

Windjammer

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
41,319
Reaction score
181
Country
Pakistan
Location
United Kingdom
Two helicopters of the People’s Liberation Army of China hovered over Chamoli district in Uttarakhand Saturday, triggering concern in India’s security establishment about the PLA’s fourth such incursion into Indian airspace since March this year. Official sources said the choppers, which returned to the Chinese side after about five minutes, could have carried out aerial photography of Indian ground troops during what was possibly a reconnaissance mission. The Indian Air Force (IAF) is probing the incident, an IAF source said.

The choppers were identified as the Zhiba series of attack helicopters. On previous occasions, Chinese helicopters had entered 4.5 kilometres into Indian territory, an area that China claims as its own and recognises as Wu-Je. State and army officials have been reviewing the security along the 350-kilometre border with Tibet after China’s incursions into these areas, generally referred as the middle sector. Barahoti is one of three border posts in the sector, comprising Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand, where ITBP jawans are not allowed to carry weapons and are in civilian clothes under a unilateral decision taken by the Central government in June 2000.

In 1958, India and China listed Barahoti, an 80-sq-km sloping pasture, as a disputed area where neither side would send their troops. In the 1962 India-China war, the PLA did not enter the 545-km middle sector, focusing on the Western (Ladakh) and Eastern (Arunachal Pradesh) sectors. However, after the 1962 war, ITBP jawans patrolled the area with weapons in a non-combative manner, under which the barrel of the gun is positioned downward.

During prolonged negotiations on resolving border disputes, the Indian side had unilaterally decided in June 2000 that ITBP troops would not be carrying arms to three posts — Barahoti, Kauril and Shipki in Himachal Pradesh. Srikanth Kondapalli, Professor in Chinese Studies at the Jawaharlal Nehru University, termed these transgression as “testing the nerves” of India and said “after violating the Line of Actual Control in the Western and Eastern sectors, Chinese troops now seem to be focusing on the middle sector. It’s a cause of worry for us”.

The professor said after the June 2000 informal agreement, India did abide by all conditions under the assumption that China would yield on the western or eastern sectors. “But that didn’t happen. Today the PAPF (People’s Armed Paramilitary Force) and PLA are enforcing China’s claims there,” he said.

Kondapalli referred to regional equations giving a China a boost. He recalled that Nepal and India had differences on the source of the Mahakali river and in the background of China’s forays in Nepal as well as the latter joining the China-led One Belt One Road (OBOR) project, and said, “There have been some moves by the PLA to test us”. He said there had also been “a concerted effort” by the PLA “to test India” against the backdrop of the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a collection of infrastructure projects.

“So the latest intrusion is to test our nerves,” he said. He even said China could deploy Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in this region in “large numbers” to monitor Indian territory. “So the helicopter incident is a precursor,” he said. “A recce mission?” Security officials here felt that ahead of its transgression in the Barahoti area, the PLA could have conducted a reconnaissance mission using high class aircraft with Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR), which provides broad-area imaging at high resolutions.

The officials said the PLA’s ‘TupolovTu 153M’ aircraft had carried out two or three reconnaissance missions last year in the middle sector. They said there was a possibility that the same aircraft, designed by Chinese companies on the basis of technology obtained from the former Soviet Union, could have been used this year, too.

The aircraft flies at an altitude of above 40,000 feet and can go up to 60,000 feet to avoid detection by radars and can take photographs and cyber and communication signatures from that height. SAR enables the taking of high-resolution pictures even in inclement weather or in the dark.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...an-airspace-indian-air-force-probing-4688526/
 
. . .
there is no zhiba attack helicopter.
 
.
In an area where indian border guards dont even carry weapons, there is a report of a chinese helicopter called zheba that does not exist intruding that is being investigated, and some pakistanis are happily cheerleading.

What gives?
 
.
They were inside airspace for only 4-5 minute, so most probably it was inadvertent.
Such incidents happened on both sides several times.
 
. .
5 mins!? Chinese have to do a lot of work to reach Abottabad operation level.

They actually camp for weeks inside Indian controlled territory erecting banners saying "this is Chinese territory". They are doing far worse, in Abbottabad it was a sneaky operation with full consent of then political leadership of Pakistan, here Chinese just barge in as and when they like without Indian consent.
 
.
What can India do against mighty Chinese. It's unfair to expect a response from them against big daddy.
 
. . . . .
China defends PLA choppers entering Indian airspace
PTI | Jun 5, 2017, 02.03 PM IST

China on Monday defended PLA helicopters hovering over Barahoti region of Uttarakhand’s Chamoli district, saying India and China have a territorial dispute in the eastern section of their boundary and the Chinese military carry out regular patrolling in the relevant areas. While the details can be obtained from the Ministry of Defence, “in principle China and India have territorial disputes in the eastern section of the China-India border”, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told the media when asked about reports that PLA helicopters violated Indian airspace on Saturday.

“The Chinese military carry out regular patrolling in the relevant areas. We hope that the two sides will make joint efforts to maintain tranquillity and peace in the border areas,” Hua said.

Two helicopters of the People’s Liberation Army of China hovered over Chamoli district on Saturday, triggering concern in India’s security establishment about the PLA’s fourth such incursion into Indian airspace since March this year.

Official sources in New Delhi said the choppers, which returned to the Chinese side after about five minutes, could have carried out aerial photography of Indian ground troops during what was possibly a reconnaissance mission.

The choppers were identified as the Zhiba series of attack helicopters. The Indian Air Force (IAF) is probing the incident.

On previous occasions, Chinese helicopters had entered 4.5 kilometres into Indian territory, an area that China claims as its own and recognises as Wu-Je.

Barahoti is one of three border posts in the sector, comprising Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand, where ITBP jawans are not allowed to carry weapons and are in civilian clothes under a unilateral decision taken by the Central government in June 2000.

In 1958, India and China listed Barahoti, an 80-sq-km sloping pasture, as a disputed area where neither side would send their troops. In the 1962 India-China war, the PLA did not enter the 545-km middle sector, focusing on the Western (Ladakh) and Eastern (Arunachal Pradesh) sectors.

However, after the 1962 war, ITBP jawans patrolled the area with weapons in a non-combative manner, under which the barrel of the gun is positioned downward.

During prolonged negotiations on resolving border disputes, the Indian side had unilaterally decided in June 2000 that ITBP troops would not be carrying arms to three posts — Barahoti, Kauril and Shipki in Himachal Pradesh.

The India-China border dispute covers the 3,488 km long Line of Actual Control (LAC). While China claims Arunachal Pradesh in the Eastern Section as Southern Tibet, India asserts that the dispute covered Aksai Chin area which was occupied by China during 1962 war.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/china-defends-pla-choppers-entering-indian-airspace-4690020/

The Indian Air Force (IAF) is still probing the incident. :D
 
Last edited:
.
China defends PLA choppers entering Indian airspace
PTI | Jun 5, 2017, 02.03 PM IST

China on Monday defended PLA helicopters hovering over Barahoti region of Uttarakhand’s Chamoli district, saying India and China have a territorial dispute in the eastern section of their boundary and the Chinese military carry out regular patrolling in the relevant areas. While the details can be obtained from the Ministry of Defence, “in principle China and India have territorial disputes in the eastern section of the China-India border”, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told the media when asked about reports that PLA helicopters violated Indian airspace on Saturday.

“The Chinese military carry out regular patrolling in the relevant areas. We hope that the two sides will make joint efforts to maintain tranquillity and peace in the border areas,” Hua said.

Two helicopters of the People’s Liberation Army of China hovered over Chamoli district on Saturday, triggering concern in India’s security establishment about the PLA’s fourth such incursion into Indian airspace since March this year.

Official sources in New Delhi said the choppers, which returned to the Chinese side after about five minutes, could have carried out aerial photography of Indian ground troops during what was possibly a reconnaissance mission.

The choppers were identified as the Zhiba series of attack helicopters. The Indian Air Force (IAF) is probing the incident.

On previous occasions, Chinese helicopters had entered 4.5 kilometres into Indian territory, an area that China claims as its own and recognises as Wu-Je.

Barahoti is one of three border posts in the sector, comprising Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand, where ITBP jawans are not allowed to carry weapons and are in civilian clothes under a unilateral decision taken by the Central government in June 2000.

In 1958, India and China listed Barahoti, an 80-sq-km sloping pasture, as a disputed area where neither side would send their troops. In the 1962 India-China war, the PLA did not enter the 545-km middle sector, focusing on the Western (Ladakh) and Eastern (Arunachal Pradesh) sectors.

However, after the 1962 war, ITBP jawans patrolled the area with weapons in a non-combative manner, under which the barrel of the gun is positioned downward.

During prolonged negotiations on resolving border disputes, the Indian side had unilaterally decided in June 2000 that ITBP troops would not be carrying arms to three posts — Barahoti, Kauril and Shipki in Himachal Pradesh.

The India-China border dispute covers the 3,488 km long Line of Actual Control (LAC). While China claims Arunachal Pradesh in the Eastern Section as Southern Tibet, India asserts that the dispute covered Aksai Chin area which was occupied by China during 1962 war.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/china-defends-pla-choppers-entering-indian-airspace-4690020/

The Indian Air Force (IAF) is probing still the incident. :D


India's behind was probed by China and now India itself is probing its own behind to find the extent of damage done by China's probing. :omghaha:
 
.
Back
Top Bottom