Turmoil In Baluchistan : Chuck Hagel And The Indian Factor - See more at: h

[Contrarian]

Just wait and see dear neighbor, India's containment will be complete within the next decade.

Unlikely, for India to be contained, it would require Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Myanmar to close their territories for us.

And all three are close friends of India. India and Bangladesh have historic high relations at the moment and there is bipartisan support in Bangladesh to be friendly and have great relations with India.

And do you know that China itself is not 'containing' India. China is ready to export whatever they have to India and India is ready to export our goods to them. So our trade with China will remain unhindered.

And lastly, India can never be contained in the traditional sense - of economics and security - simply because of 2 reasons:
1. We have a ridiculously big coast line that guarantees that India's trade can not be stopped by any state.
2. PLAN will never have enough vessels to station in Indian Ocean to ever challenge Indian Navy credibly. The rest of South Asia does not even have a Navy worth its name. Indian Navy is growing too fast for that.

 

[nair]

We have the opportunity to name India a state sponsor of terrorism after this, instead of MFN.

Dear sir.... All the best for this idea.... but before talking about india... there is another country which have been accused by entire world which sponsor terrorism..... first take that name with honor and then can accuse india...

All this discussion about a person who became defense secretary last week... and what he said in a private speech 2 years back.... Since you vouch him soo much hope to see him vouch in future.... as the world didnt come to an end.... so is not terrorism...... All the best!!!!!!

Just wait and see dear neighbor, India's containment will be complete within the next decade.

I Wish you all the best for this new dream of yours!!!!!!!

He never said terrorism, it was more on development lines and the anti taliban factor - this was in 2011 and the republicans used it as a card just to get Hagel out of the post race.

Why dont we all wait for him to say what he meant or validate it before jumping all over the place and creating false propaganda?

You cant blame them..... things were sooo dry that.... all of them are jumping on something which they got to accuse india....

 

[tarrar]

Gen. Musharraf in his rule had clearly said “ I am sure India is 100% involved in Balochistan & they are spreading terrorism..”. Gen. Musharraf said it well.

India is directly involved in spreading terrorism in Pakistan & they are doing it from Afghanistan openly. There was a question raised of so many Indian Consulates along the border of Pakistan & later it was discovered that they are only busy financing & spreading terrorism in Pakistan.

The SWA operation had proved that Indians are 100% involved in spreading rented terrorism in Pakistan. Indian Arms, ammunition & medics were captured during this operation, Pak Army & the Intel Agencies did their jobs well & made tons & tons of report of Indian involvement in terrorist activity against Pakistan but the corrupt & incompetent Govt. which was installed in Pakistan to hurt & damage Pakistan went quiet on these clear proves, evidence & said YES SIR to US.

There is no doubt that India is spreading rented terrorism in Pakistan & they are directly involved in spreading rented terrorism in Balochistan province. The problem here in Pakistan is that we are ruled by the corrupt & incompetent politicians (PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, JUI & MQM) who are all Anti Pakistani & Anti Military, these a** holes are all working for foreign powers.
I hope Pak Army takes over soon or Gen. Musharraf returns to power, INSHAALLAH.

 

[nair]

^^Show 1 proof..... If you have.....If i remember last time this was discussed in public during a press conference post meeting of external affairs ministers.... Where in Mr. SM Krishna told in the face of Mr. Qureshi that pakistan have not provided any proof to claim the responsibility of india's involvement in Baluchistan....

 

[RPK]

Please make it this tread Sticky in Strategic & Geopolitical Issues then only world knows how powerful India is!

 

[newdelhinsa]

Just wait and see dear neighbor, India's containment will be complete within the next decade.

You will end up losing whatever you contain.

 

[Mech]

Just wait and see dear neighbor, India's containment will be complete within the next decade.

This is really fascinating.

Go on, dazzle us with more of your idiocy.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Chuck Bagel.

 

[indushek]

Unlikely, for India to be contained, it would require Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Myanmar to close their territories for us.

And all three are close friends of India. India and Bangladesh have historic high relations at the moment and there is bipartisan support in Bangladesh to be friendly and have great relations with India.

And do you know that China itself is not 'containing' India. China is ready to export whatever they have to India and India is ready to export our goods to them. So our trade with China will remain unhindered.

And lastly, India can never be contained in the traditional sense - of economics and security - simply because of 2 reasons:
1. We have a ridiculously big coast line that guarantees that India's trade can not be stopped by any state.
2. PLAN will never have enough vessels to station in Indian Ocean to ever challenge Indian Navy credibly. The rest of South Asia does not even have a Navy worth its name. Indian Navy is growing too fast for that.

I think he means strategic containment of India. Even that is not possible and if it does comes to that who is going to ensure the safety of these adversaries around??

 

[indushek]

In fact we already consider you a state sponsor of terrorism, so does China, Sri Lanka and other states where you have supported/created terrorist groups to put forward your F.Policy goals. It has bitten back all of those states are not allowing Chinese navy to crawl under your noses....permanently

You considering us whatever doesn't matter, other than alleging Indian presence here and there without showing proofs mind you your govt never said 'Indian state sponsors terrorism'. Regarding Srilanka or the imaginary states u speak of where 'we sponsored terrorism' you honestly think they would take sides openly and state that they are going to join anti Indian bloc??

Srilankans themselves have categorically stated that they will never do anything harming Indian security. No country is big enough to contain us not even China, i am not saying this out jingoism as it might seem but based on our foreign policy historically and the current and prospective stature of India on the world stage. In addition our economic condition too. Other than this Chinese don't seem to show interest much in this but their own development, they want to grow and grow till they reach their goals and will not jeapordize their growth.

If the lone Super power doesn't want to mediate in the thorny issue between us and the incumbent Super power says it is a bilateral issue what makes u think a anti Indian bloc can be formed, sustained and we contained. You sir seem to be making statements on either wishful thinking or some data unavailable to anybody out there.

Let us say that it does come to that, what is stopping us to stand with USA when our own existence is being threatened? all bets are always off at that point and a little compromise on the independent foreign policy we have been following could be compromised a little may be depending on our ability to negotiate.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Other than this Chinese don't seem to show interest much in this but their own development, they want to grow and grow till they reach their goals and will not jeapordize their growth.

Yep, our most important considerations are internal stability and economic development.

If Chuck Bagel is nice to us, we'll be nice to him. If he wants to annoy us then we'll annoy him in return.

As of his statements so far, he seems to be fairly balanced towards us. More so than the others anyway.

 

[Paan Singh]

Just wait and see dear neighbor, India's containment will be complete within the next decade.

 

[nafsiati]

Indian RAW and the Indian establishment is doing the same thing that ISI and Pakistani establishment was doing in India! But India is a so called democratic country and we are labelled as terrorist! People of Sri lanka didnt forget what tamils did and India is a breeding ground for tamils! and when Srilanka punished there worst enemy then India is signing against Srilanka! Now whats the difference in India and Srilanka/Pakistan when they are training mercenaries and sending it to Baluchistan for insurgency! They all the are same whether it is India Pakistan or SriLanka! But no one questioned India for this inhuman activities! But history repeats itself what they are doing in Pakistan or anywhere in the world will be done against them! thats what history has told us! I think India has forgotten about their states and their enmities!

 

[IndianArmy]

Indian RAW and the Indian establishment is doing the same thing that ISI and Pakistani establishment was doing in India! But India is a so called democratic country and we are labelled as terrorist! People of Sri lanka didnt forget what tamils did and India is a breeding ground for tamils! and when Srilanka punished there worst enemy then India is signing against Srilanka! Now whats the difference in India and Srilanka/Pakistan when they are training mercenaries and sending it to Baluchistan for insurgency! They all the are same whether it is India Pakistan or SriLanka! But no one questioned India for this inhuman activities! But history repeats itself what they are doing in Pakistan or anywhere in the world will be done against them! thats what history has told us! I think India has forgotten about their states and their enmities!

What you have done or are doing is completely a result of what should not have happened, while ours is a completely different story. We created a group and we Helped them destroy it. Period. Your's is a sorry state of affair's with complete Kayos.

If you cannot contain what you started, the world is obvious to see you as a breeding ground for terrorists.

 

[indushek]

Yep, our most important considerations are internal stability and economic development.

If Chuck Bagel is nice to us, we'll be nice to him. If he wants to annoy us then we'll annoy him in return.

Leaving forum fights aside why would China or any country developing and with great aspirations get into fist fights unnecessarily. It will be counter productive and the Chinese aren't foolish to do such things. Even if they do they will never be overt about it.