Turkiye gets the contract to build a tanker ship for Pakistan Navy.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

4 more F-23Ps with HQ-16s,2 type 54As,7 subs,GENESIS Upgrade for OPHs,Producing Parts for ANKA... n not to forget the Nuclear sub under development...Im loving it...

 

[Kompromat]

 

[RAMPAGE]

4 more F-23Ps with HQ-16s,2 type 54As,7 subs,GENESIS Upgrade for OPHs,Producing Parts for ANKA... n not to forget the Nuclear sub under development...Im loving it...

ye kab hua ???

 

[S.Y.A]

looks smaller than nasr. and with less pylons too

 

[Zarvan]

I have never seen helicopter in tanker is it new thing or it happens

 

[Neptune]

I have never seen helicopter in tanker is it new thing or it happens

NATO Shipping Centre had transmissioned into fleet tankers with helipads, so that Turkish shipyards has move towards to such designs

 

[niaz]

I have never seen helicopter in tanker is it new thing or it happens

It is quite common. All you need is a large enough flat area. Very large tankers anchor away from the shore; loading & discharge thru an SPM (single point mooring). I have personally landed on a VLCC crude tanker in a helicopter.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

It is quite common. All you need is a large enough flat area. Very large tankers anchor away from the shore; loading & discharge thru an SPM (single point mooring). I have personally landed on a VLCC crude tanker in a helicopter.

That quite correct @niaz. It is a reasonably common SOP on VLCCs to use Helos for Personnel transfer as well as other tasks. I've choppered to and from Tankers on numerous occasions, saves a great deal of time among other things. Now Tanker Crews are well trained for these Ops. including the contingency of a Chopper crash on deck.

 

[Zarvan]

It is quite common. All you need is a large enough flat area. Very large tankers anchor away from the shore; loading & discharge thru an SPM (single point mooring). I have personally landed on a VLCC crude tanker in a helicopter.

4 more F-23Ps with HQ-16s,2 type 54As,7 subs,GENESIS Upgrade for OPHs,Producing Parts for ANKA... n not to forget the Nuclear sub under development...Im loving it...

Sir have we ordered these 4 and sir we should have far more bigger navy at least the size which Turkish navy has these days

 

[Viking 63]

Pakistan navy has always been the orphan of the other services... Given pakistan coast line and other threats in the region. I feel the Navy is il-eqipped to handle situation in full blown out conflicts !!! It desparatly needs massive funding, but NO DINAROS!!!

 

[ELTurco]

Sir have we ordered these 4 and sir we should have far more bigger navy at least the size which Turkish navy has these days

Why do you say ''sir'' al the time are you a soldier or something?

 

[niaz]

That quite correct @niaz. It is a reasonably common SOP on VLCCs to use Helos for Personnel transfer as well as other tasks. I've choppered to and from Tankers on numerous occasions, saves a great deal of time among other things. Now Tanker Crews are well trained for these Ops. including the contingency of a Chopper crash on deck.

Chopper is also a lot safer. Don’t know how many members have had the experience of transferring from boat to ship in open sea, it can be quite dangerous.

In my younger days I had one such experience. Climbing up the vessel from the launch was quite difficult but manageable. However, coming down the rope ladder scared me to no end. I had to climb down quite a distance with the small motor launch rolling all the time on the waves.

Despite having being explained the procedure and accompanied by experience sailors and wearing a life jacket; I thought that I will fall into the sea. I would never do it again.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Chopper is also a lot safer. Don’t know how many members have had the experience of transferring from boat to ship in open sea, it can be quite dangerous.

In my younger days I had one such experience. Climbing up the vessel from the launch was quite difficult but manageable. However, coming down the rope ladder scared me to no end. I had to climb down quite a distance with the small motor launch rolling all the time on the waves.

Despite having being explained the procedure and accompanied by experience sailors and wearing a life jacket; I thought that I will fall into the sea. I would never do it again.

@niaz sahab; you are indeed correct about this fact too. Though I probably overlooked this aspect, since I trained initially as a Marine Professional who ended up connecting later with the Oil and Petroleum Industry. But the experience that you describe has happened a number of times, thus leading to the Personnel Transfer Op being aborted for safety reasons.

In contrast, the only thing that can curtail Heli-borne operations is either very turbulent weather or zero-visibility conditions

 

[Nishan_101]

Landmark export award for Pakistan fleet tanker project
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Published: 19 Feb 2013

Turkish technology and systems engineering house Savunma Teknolojileri Mühendislik ve Ticaret (STM) – Stand 10-B05 in the Turkish Pavilion – has signed a contract with Pakistan’s Ministry of Defence Production to provide technical and material support for the construction of a new double-hull fleet tanker for the Pakistan Navy.

Signed in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, on 22 January, the contract covers the detailed design of the new ship, which is to be built in country by Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works (KSEW), together with the supply of a kit of materiel, integrated logistic support, training test and trials. STM will also provide consultancy and management support for the four-year programme.

The new tanker, displacing 15,600 tonnes and approximately 155m in length, will be equipped with replenishment-at-sea rigs for underway replenishment. It will also have a helicopter flight deck, allowing for vertical replenishment operations. A conventional all-diesel machinery plant, driving controllable pitch propellers, has been specified. The ship will be able to achieve a speed of 20kt.

The contract represents a landmark for STM, marking the first time that a Turkish company has been contracted to export ship design and engineering services to Pakistan.

K S EW (Stand 12-E32) has already built a number of warships for Pakistan Navy, but this is the first time that the yard will build a large auxiliary ship at its facilities. The local construction of the new tanker is in line with the Pakistan Navy’s goal of achieving greater self-reliance and the increased ‘indigenisation’ of defence equipment production.

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Why not Pakistan turn the deal in to a JV like Producing Tankers and other vessels needed by Pakistan Navy and PNSC for commercial purposes... So we can gain good orders locally as well as internationally.

And also we can also invest in a new Shipyard in Karachi East side to complement the current one.

 

[niaz]

Why not Pakistan turn the deal in to a JV like Producing Tankers and other vessels needed by Pakistan Navy and PNSC for commercial purposes... So we can gain good orders locally as well as internationally.

And also we can also invest in a new Shipyard in Karachi East side to complement the current one.

Honourable Sir,

Shipbuilding is not assembling the vessel by welding together pre-fabricated steel plates which Karachi shipyard has been doing thus far.

I wouldn’t presume to compare myself with a Marine Professional such as Capt. Popeye. My comments are based on the research I was obliged to do as I had been involved in the purchase of Bunkering barges for the company I was employed with until end 2010 and we are discussing a naval oiler here not a warship.

There 4 requirements for the shipbuilding industry.

First relates to “Naval architecture” which is science of the design, development and evaluation of ships design ‘ab initio’. Putting it plainly, it deals with the ships ability to remain afloat and its hydro dynamics.

Second being the ability to produce ABS steel. ABS stands for American Bureau of Steel which classifies carbon steel based on its tensile strength. Starting from 34,000 psi going up to 90,000 Psi (about 600 Mega Pascal’s) for higher strength steels. Crude oil carriers require anti-corrosion steel of about 400 MPa class. There are special guidelines for the clad steel suitable for chemical carries and membrane tank LNG vessels.

Third being the design of propulsion system such as reciprocating diesel engines, gas turbines or combined gas & steam turbines.

Navigational equipment , radar and communications equipment etc. is the last but not the least requirement of any modern merchant vessel.

Until the 1970’s Japan was the leading shipbuilder of the world. From 1980’s South Korea came to the fore and currently China accounts for about 45% of all the naval tonnage built in the world. South Korea and Japan being second & third.

With no disrespect to Turkey & her shipping Industry, it must be clearly understood that neither
Turkey nor Pakistan are in the forefront of the ship design, steel manufacture , propulsion systems or of the navigation & communication fields.

It is therefore highly presumptuous and naïve to think that we have a JV for the naval oiler construction and be able to successfully compete in a market dominated by the likes of China & South Korea. China would be a far better choice.