Turkish TAI TF-X in line with what PAF wants: PAC Kamra Chairman Air Marshal

[Muhammad Omar]

Turkish TAI TF-X in Line what PAF wants: PAC Kamra Chairman Air Marshal


Check out @warnesyworld’s Tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1123967134902706176

 

[Maxpane]

so it is a JV project?

 

[Ultima Thule]

This tweet is already posted in different thread bro, no need to start new thread on this tweet @Muhammad Omar

 

[R Wing]

The big question is timeline. China has the FC-31 4.5th-gen platform ready to go with some stealth features too.

 

[Ultima Thule]

so it is a JV project?

Inerest showed by Pakistan, currently its not JV project @Maxpane

 

[Maxpane]

Inerest showed by Pakistan, currently its not JV project @Maxpane

if they are showing interest then it means they are serious . few days back former COAS sid that Pakistan developed The design of the jet and in this tweet he says that Pakistan is studying this project for two years

 

[Vapnope]

Interesting development. We have project Azm going on and we are involved in Chinese fifth generation program in some capacity and now TAI's program is being considered.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

This tweet is already posted in different thread bro, no need to start new thread on this tweet @Muhammad Omar

Ok sorry got a bit excited

 

[AUz]

if they are showing interest then it means they are serious . few days back former COAS sid that Pakistan developed The design of the jet and in this tweet he says that Pakistan is studying this project for two years

Source?

 

[Maxpane]

Source?

Source?

it was in news

 

[Irfan Baloch]

so it is a JV project?

of course not
the tweet just states that whatever Turkish program parameters are whatever the scope and the requirements are
they are in line with what PAF/ PAC has in mind and actually we are not beyond conceptual stage
there might be some similar elements with F-35 or J-31 as well . it doesn't mean we are going to join them but those existing / far more advanced stage programs are a benchmark and exactly what PAF/ PAC wants to see in their future jet

 

[Maxpane]

of course not
the tweet just states that whatever Turkish program parameters are whatever the scope and the requirements are
they are in line with what PAF/ PAC has in mind and actually we are not beyond conceptual stage
there might be some similar elements with F-35 or J-31 as well . it doesn't mean we are going to join them but those existing / far more advanced stage programs are a benchmark and exactly what PAF/ PAC wants to see in their future jet

ohhh ok thank you so much sir. i was bit confused

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Source?

the source is just a tweet
nothing much to it to be honest with you.
its a vague statement . the PAF future program might be in line with a future Russian or Japanese 5th Generation program too

as we all aviation enthusiasts know what (for argument sake) classes as 5th generation jet
stealth design being the biggest feature
followed by sensor fusion better weapons & low emission & high efficiency engine etc

the differences might be in terms of desired role, deep strike, superiority, multi role ,long endurance whatever

 

[Deino]

Turkish TAI TF-X in Line what PAF wants: PAC Kamra Chairman Air Marshal


Check out @warnesyworld’s Tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1123967134902706176

IMO a very problematic post since even understandable by Alan Warnes' enthusiasm for the PAF it completely ignores the political issues:

Any possible Turkish-Pakistani JV would IMO - and especially in mind of the current nor really good Turkish-Western relationship exclude any further involvement form any major Western company, most importantly directly related to the engines.

I cannot imagine that - in mind of the close Sino-Pakistani friendship and relationship any Western government would agree either Rolls Royce or General Electric to sell its latest engine technology to Pakistan.
Consequently either the whole timeline of the TFX collapses or it has to be some sort of a Turkish-Pakistani-Chinese development based eventually on the FC-31/WS-19-combo ... which IMO Turkey will refuse.

As such, the TFX might be indeed exactly what the PAF wants in terms of technology and capabilities, but IMO such a cooperation is the same as the Su-57 aka FGFA is exactly what the IAF want, but given the political and financial background it does not fit.

 

[MMM-E]

TFX and Turbofan Engine will be developed by Turkey as like ATAK-2 heavy Attack Helicopter and Turboshaft Engine


TAI TFX Fighter Jet : first flight / 2026 .. in service / 2029 ( Turkey has technology to develop turbofan engine similar to GE F110 engine in 10 years ) btw TFX will be designed on GE F-110 Engine which has been produced under license by Turkey


TAI ATAK-2 heavy Attack Helicopter : first flight / 2024 ( TEI TS-1400 Turboshaft Engine will be ready in a few years for T-129 Attack and T-625 Utilitiy Helicopters ) .... and 3000 shp Turboshaft Engine willl be developed for ATAK-2 heavy Attack Helicopter